White Supremacists chant "6 million more" at Holocaust memorial

[Kyphael]

He did condemn all the groups that caused the violence in his first press conference, and he did say that some on the right and left had good people in that same conference. You're just made that he didn't name them while doing it. Why does that matter if he said or didn't say "nazi", "white nationalists", and "antifa"? He's not a smart person who is good with words. But what you're doing is straight up dishonest.

It wasn't an obvious hate march... The people who you saw marching chanting racist shit was only a TINY amount of people that were there. You don't even know about antifa attacking people and destroying property. Because you're shown only one side of the story. You can't make any educated opinions about this event because you just don't know.

I know all about antifa and I don't condone what they do, nor black lives matter, or any organized group that spreads a message through hate and violence, but you seem to, like the President, undermine the severity of the President of the United States not setting the example. You see, antifa or BLM, as bad as they are, isn't a group whose identity is rooted, and proud of doing so, in the genocide of 6 million people. I'm not even Jewish, I don't have an agenda, and I'm not trying to spread some propaganda, but if you've seen some of the videos of human beings being thrown into craters like trash, and then turn around and see a group of Americans in this day and age march and chant with tiki torches echoing Nazi sentiment, and you think it's OK to just gloss over it and label them "bad people?" That's grossly irresponsible for the Commander and Chief. It doesn't take a genius to condemn Nazis.

Black Lives Matter and Antifa have "bad people."
MS 13 have horrible people.
Neo Nazis in my opinion, are not American, they are sick fucks whose actions can't be tolerated and have to be explicitly rebuked.

There were plenty of good protesters on both sides, that's common knowledge, and we don't need the President to tell us that, but it doesn't excuse his inaction in condemning that display, not when Americans flew and sailed halfway across the world and laid down their lives to kill Nazis, just so 70 years later Neo Nazis calling themselves American can echo Nazi sentiment?

[Orbitus]

Does anyone legitimately care about what you Nazis think? Fascist.

LOL, fucking hilarious that you are calling a left winger, a NAZI or a FUCKING FASCIST, since it is a right wing ideology. You are closer to those than he is.

[urasim]

LOL, fucking hilarious that you are calling a left winger, a NAZI or a FUCKING FASCIST, since it is a right wing ideology. You are closer to those than he is.

Says the Nazi sympathizer.

You don't even know any of my principles... How can you possibly accurately label me anything?

I know all about antifa and I don't condone what they do, nor black lives matter, or any organized group that spreads a message through hate and violence, but you seem to, like the President, undermine the severity of the President of the United States not setting the example. You see, antifa or BLM, as bad as they are, isn't a group whose identity is rooted, and proud of doing so, in the genocide of 6 million people. I'm not even Jewish, I don't have an agenda, and I'm not trying to spread some propaganda, but if you've seen some of the videos of human beings being thrown into craters like trash, and then turn around and see a group of Americans in this day and age march and chant with tiki torches echoing Nazi sentiment, and you think it's OK to just gloss over it and label them "bad people?" That's grossly irresponsible for the Commander and Chief. It doesn't take a genius to condemn Nazis.

Black Lives Matter and Antifa have "bad people."
MS 13 have horrible people.
Neo Nazis in my opinion, are not American, they are sick fucks whose actions can't be tolerated and have to be explicitly rebuked.

There were plenty of good protesters on both sides, that's common knowledge, and we don't need the President to tell us that, but it doesn't excuse his inaction in condemning that display, not when Americans flew and sailed halfway across the world and laid down their lives to kill Nazis, just so 70 years later Neo Nazis calling themselves American can echo Nazi sentiment?

Blablabla. No groups are equally deplorable, and I never said they were. Some are worse than others.

Condemning them is all that was needed. The amount of condemnation is irrelevant. This just seems like you need a parental figure to soothe your emotional wounds.

MS 13 have horrible people.

No, ALL of MS 13 are fucking disgusting animals.

There were plenty of good protesters on both sides, that's common knowledge

Whoa, whoa, that's not a correct thing to say around here. Orb and Naj might come call you a Nazi. Just a word of warning.

[Orbitus]

Says the Nazi sympathizer.

You don't even know any of my principles... How can you possibly accurately label me anything?



Blablabla. No groups are equally deplorable, and I never said they were. Some are worse than others.

Condemning them is all that was needed. The amount of condemnation is irrelevant. This just seems like you need a parental figure to soothe your emotional wounds.



No, ALL of MS 13 are fucking disgusting animals.



Whoa, whoa, that's not a correct thing to say around here. Orb and Naj might come call you a Nazi. Just a word of warning.

How the fuck am I a Nazi sympathizer?

And judging from your posting history, you are the Nazi sympathizer. Not me. Good try though.

[Masark]

Freedom of speech is not freedom from offence.

Freedom of speech does not apply to advocating crimes against humanity. For reference, see history.

[urasim]

How the fuck am I a Nazi sympathizer?

And judging from your posting history, you are the Nazi sympathizer. Not me. Good try though.

Rofl! No u!

Seriously? I guess being for freedom of speech, gay marriage, transgenders, welfare, "free" college, equality of opportunity, equal rights, legalization of weed, legalization of prostitution are all things a Nazi would support in your fucked up mind. Just a few things I believe in off the top of my head.

[Dextroden]

I never said that. Lern2read.

It doesn't

Yawwn. Trapped in your own bad logic

[Najnaj]

Does anyone legitimately care about what you Nazis think? Fascist.

..they also lack brains apparently.

[urasim]

..they also lack brains apparently.

Don't be so hard on yourself.

[Ivanstone]

Yawwn. Trapped in your own bad logic

Grats on clipping posts to make your point. Shall I repost the court's opinion again? Ya know the one that says it targeted black people. Or do I need to provide additional context?

How about the Supreme Court refusing North Carolina's appeal?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN18B1QB
" The U.S. Supreme Court rebuffed a Republican bid to revive a strict North Carolina voter-identification law that a lower court found deliberately discriminated against black voters, handing a victory to Democrats and civil rights groups.

The appeals court found that the law’s provisions “target African-Americans with almost surgical precision” and “impose cures for problems that did not exist,” concluding that the Republican-led legislature enacted it “with discriminatory intent.”

Republicans have said laws like the one in North Carolina are needed to prevent voter fraud. Democrats have said such laws are voter suppression measures intended to make it harder for groups that tend to back Democratic candidates, including black and Hispanic voters, to cast ballots. "

[Dextroden]

Grats on clipping posts to make your point. Shall I repost the court's opinion again? Ya know the one that says it targeted black people. Or do I need to provide additional context?

How about the Supreme Court refusing North Carolina's appeal?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN18B1QB
" The U.S. Supreme Court rebuffed a Republican bid to revive a strict North Carolina voter-identification law that a lower court found deliberately discriminated against black voters, handing a victory to Democrats and civil rights groups.

The appeals court found that the law’s provisions “target African-Americans with almost surgical precision” and “impose cures for problems that did not exist,” concluding that the Republican-led legislature enacted it “with discriminatory intent.”

Republicans have said laws like the one in North Carolina are needed to prevent voter fraud. Democrats have said such laws are voter suppression measures intended to make it harder for groups that tend to back Democratic candidates, including black and Hispanic voters, to cast ballots. "

Opinion.

Remember when the courts opinion was gays couldn't get married and Democrats agreed with that sentiment by voting yes on things like DOMA?

[Stardrift]

Why is it that the USA is the most obsessed with and offended by Nazis and WWII? They had almost nothing to do with WWII.

Like, they cannot shut up about it at all. Ever. Even their schools regurgitate it like it's something that increases your youth the more times you recite it.

Even the countries that had the most to do with WWII don't even mention it half as much.

And this isn't even counting the numerous movies and documentaries produced by US tards with WWII hardons.

[Kyphael]

Says the Nazi sympathizer.

Blablabla. No groups are equally deplorable, and I never said they were. Some are worse than others.

Condemning them is all that was needed. The amount of condemnation is irrelevant.

The amount of condemnation is completely relevant when one group is a movement of social fucktards who commit violence, which is unavoidable for any country, at any time, given human nature, while the other group echoes sentiment of what was a worldwide military force hellbent on human extermination of particular groups--failing to call that out undermines what America stands for. Germany has a zero tolerance for it, why should we be different? We should be setting the example.

This just seems like you need a parental figure to soothe your emotional wounds.

What the hell are you talking about? Are you going to make a point or drag the discussion down with this trash?

No, ALL of MS 13 are fucking disgusting animals.

Fair enough, they are worse than horrible, they're fucking animals. I just wish our President spoke of Neo Nazis with as much disdain instead of just grouping them up with other "bad people."

Whoa, whoa, that's not a correct thing to say around here. Orb and Naj might come call you a Nazi. Just a word of warning.

I don't know who Orb and Naj are and their opinions aren't worth shit if that's their normal route of discussion or debate. Name calling people on a public online forum doesn't make any points.

[Dextroden]

Why is it that the USA is the most obsessed with and offended by Nazis and WWII? They had almost nothing to do with WWII.

Like, they cannot shut up about it at all. Ever. Even their schools regurgitate it like it's something that increases your youth the more times you recite it.

Even the countries that had the most to do with WWII don't even mention it half as much.

And this isn't even counting the numerous movies and documentaries produced by US tards with WWII hardons.

It was the last war where we were clearly on the good side. No one likes the documentaries on us fucking the the middle East.

[urasim]

The amount of condemnation is completely relevant when one group is a movement of social fucktards who commit violence, which is unavoidable for any country, at any time, given human nature, while the other group echoes sentiment of what was a worldwide military force hellbent on human extermination of particular groups--failing to call that out undermines what America stands for.

Are you talking about antifa or Nazis? Because that sounds like you're describing both.

What the hell are you talking about? Are you going to make a point or drag the discussion down with this trash?

There's no reason to not take what he said at face value and be fine with it. There's another motive behind your whining in this specific case with the president. His first speech wasn't about calling anyone out. It was about bringing people together. He condemned the people that did wrong things, and then spent the vast majority of the time saying we need to drop our partisan bullshit. Which you obviously haven't if you think that only "one group is a movement of social fucktards who commit violence" when it's both that are to blame.

Fair enough, they are worse than horrible, they're fucking animals. I just wish our President spoke of Neo Nazis with as much disdain instead of just grouping them up with other "bad people."

Neo-nazis and antifa, while violent, aren't killing and raping people in incredibly high numbers.

I don't know who Orb and Naj are and their opinions aren't worth shit if that's their normal route of discussion or debate. Name calling people on a public online forum doesn't make any points.

Yeah, if I were you I'd just slap them on ignore. They don't add anything to any discussion. Add Dug to that list, too.

[Kyphael]

Why is it that the USA is the most obsessed with and offended by Nazis and WWII? They had almost nothing to do with WWII.

Like, they cannot shut up about it at all. Ever. Even their schools regurgitate it like it's something that increases your youth the more times you recite it.

Even the countries that had the most to do with WWII don't even mention it half as much.

And this isn't even counting the numerous movies and documentaries produced by US tards with WWII hardons.

It's taboo as hell to even bring it up in Germany. They have like zero tolerance for it. It's their darkest chapter, they prefer to bury it and it's probably for the best. No clue about Italy. Japan is busy making Playstations. (J/k, but not really.)

America talks about it a lot because it was a fucked up chapter in human history in which America ended up playing a large role at, and, for reasons one might consider bragging or not, America was the hero, nothing wrong with tooting your own horn. What the allied powers accomplished over the axis of evil is the stuff of legendary good vs. evil stories. Not to mention American men died fighting Nazis, so it's not like America has nothing to be sour about.

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Are you talking about antifa or Nazis? Because that sounds like you're describing both.

It applies to both, but which was successful at committing genocide and vicariously, the death of thousands more through war, and which is nothing more than a domestic threat that only flares up during political spats?

There's no reason to not take what he said at face value and be fine with it. There's another motive behind your whining in this specific case with the president. His first speech wasn't about calling anyone out. It was about bringing people together. He condemned the people that did wrong things, and then spent the vast majority of the time saying we need to drop our partisan bullshit. Which you obviously haven't if you think that only "one group is a movement of social fucktards who commit violence" when it's both that are to blame.

I was actually referring to antifa as social fucktards, I clarified neo nazis are more dangerous on principle alone. I can't convince you to give a shit, and I'm not trying to debate politics, but when members of your own party is nudging you to condemn a neo nazi display because you haven't yet, you know you fucked up.

Neo-nazis and antifa, while violent, aren't killing and raping people in incredibly high numbers.

If you're going to split hairs, antifa and MS13, as repugnant and fucking human trash as they are, haven't murdered 6 million people and caused a WORLD WAR that claimed thousands more, Americans included.

Yeah, if I were you I'd just slap them on ignore. They don't add anything to any discussion. Add Dug to that list, too.

If I come across them and they're that dense, I'm sure I will.

[urasim]

It applies to both, but which was successful at committing genocide and vicariously, the death of thousands more through war, and which is nothing more than a domestic threat that only flares up during political spats?

They might share a lot of the same ideas, but they aren't the same group. These fuckwits can't even get more than a handful of people anymore.

I was actually referring to antifa as social fucktards, I clarified neo nazis are more dangerous on principle alone. I can't convince you to give a shit, and I'm not trying to debate politics, but when members of your own party is nudging you to condemn a neo nazi display because you haven't yet, you know you fucked up.

I see them as equally bad. The only "leg up", if you want to call it that, antifa have is they are only racist against white people, whereas nazis are racist against everyone not white.

If you're going to split hairs, antifa and MS13, as repugnant and fucking human trash as they are, haven't murdered 6 million people and caused a WORLD WAR that claimed thousands more, Americans included.

Antifa are communists. We all know which ideology wins with death tolls here... But the new communists aren't the old communists. Just like the neo-nazis aren't the old nazis. There's certainly overlap in the ideologies, but these people are powerless to effect economics on a larger scale. The US is gradually becoming more socialistic naturally. It's what eventually happens when the economy is good in capitalist countries.

[Stardrift]

It's taboo as hell to even bring it up in Germany. They have like zero tolerance for it. It's their darkest chapter, they prefer to bury it and it's probably for the best. No clue about Italy. Japan is busy making Playstations. (J/k, but not really.)

America talks about it a lot because it was a fucked up chapter in human history in which America ended up playing a large role at, and, for reasons one might consider bragging or not, America was the hero, nothing wrong with tooting your own horn. What the allied powers accomplished over the axis of evil is the stuff of legendary good vs. evil stories. Not to mention American men died fighting Nazis, so it's not like America has nothing to be sour about.

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It applies to both, but which was successful at committing genocide and vicariously, the death of thousands more through war, and which is nothing more than a domestic threat that only flares up during political spats?



I was actually referring to antifa as social fucktards, I clarified neo nazis are more dangerous on principle alone. I can't convince you to give a shit, and I'm not trying to debate politics, but when members of your own party is nudging you to condemn a neo nazi display because you haven't yet, you know you fucked up.



If you're going to split hairs, antifa and MS13, as repugnant and fucking human trash as they are, haven't murdered 6 million people and caused a WORLD WAR that claimed thousands more, Americans included.



If I come across them and they're that dense, I'm sure I will.

They in no way were the hero lmao. Maybe to themselves, sure. But they came in at the butt end of it all and take all the credit for it. Then have the gall to pretend Nazis are one of the most offensive things to them, ever.

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It was the last war where we were clearly on the good side. No one likes the documentaries on us fucking the the middle East.

I guess you're right. What the US did in WWII was undoubtedly needed and great, which I don't mean to discredit whatsoever.

[ohwell]

https://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Antis...efy-ADL-589213



https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...st-remembrance

Just a bunch of very fine people there expressing a different opinion to me.

I mean sure if you're going to complain about them where are your threads about this going on every day in the middle east where you had Iran's president being a holocaust denier and several other nations there wishing the same as these people...... oh wait you only care when it's white men doing it right?

[Dextroden]

They in no way were the hero lmao. Maybe to themselves, sure. But they came in at the butt end of it all and take all the credit for it. Then have the gall to pretend Nazis are one of the most offensive things to them, ever.

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I guess you're right. What the US did in WWII was undoubtedly needed and great, which I don't mean to discredit whatsoever.

It's fine. It's really stupid because there are people who believe America was against the Nazis from the start instead of finger twiddling until Pearl Harbor.