Fair criticism but that’s not how defamation works. Nothing Elon Musk said was presented as being as true or anything other than his opinion.
As I said it was way out of line. You can’t fucking sue someone for a comment like that. No reasonable expectations exist to that Elon Musk would know if said diver was a pedo or not. And him making an asshole comment doesn’t qualify.
Milli Vanilli, Bigger than Elvis
Selling snake oil again, i see... if he's such a genius, why hasn't he come up with decent broadband internet on fucking earth that is commercially viable. We really don't need more trash in space. Prove me wrong Elon, but we all know you won't.
Agreed. He certainly went off the rails on that one, and he certainly paid the price, which is exactly how it's supposed to work (general comments, not aimed at you Endus).
But we also get a completely revitalized space launch program, years ahead of where anyone else is or will be.
I'd argue that Musk is a lot closer to Tesla's free-roaming visionary position than Edison's corporate abuse, to be utterly frank.
Also, the Star Trek future is one where innovation is generally suppressed as "risky". It's internally placid, but I don't consider that to really be a strength.
The alternative thus far has been "no one in space".
If SpaceX can do it, other competitors can spring up. Musk is the guy who gave away Tesla patents for free to encourage competition, after all. A competitive outreach into space is what gets us into in-system colonization and industry, which is the next big step for humanity's development as a civilization. Since government outreach stalled and basically died, I'm perfectly willing to let private industry pick up that slack.
Milli Vanilli, Bigger than Elvis
Yeah, I don't think you know what that word means. If you want to irrationally hate someone for being ground breaking a number of separate fields, have at it. Some people just gotta be haters, right?
Sure - doesn't matter who leads, as long as they are succeeding. The only reason Musk was able to succeed, however, was because he was rich. But don't let all that pesky reality get in the way of a good old fashioned jealous hatred.How about we follow someone who isnt some rich ass hole?
When it works, because it already has achieved a half dozen ground breaking milestones, having "Amazon" (I assume you're doing the ironic hatred thing and actually know that Bezos is the CEO of Amazon, not Musk) in space would be very good.And if it works out we are going to have Amazon in space but worse.
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Not to derail, but I haven't heard that description of Star Trek before. Could you elaborate? I'm curious because Rodenberry's ST universe is usually described as a happy utopia-ish one.
Lol don't bother. This guy is just a hater. No matter that Musk has been independently successful in four separate industries, and completely revolutionized space launch. He's going to ignore all that and just keep on with the negativity.The alternative thus far has been "no one in space".
Exactly. Well put.If SpaceX can do it, other competitors can spring up. Musk is the guy who gave away Tesla patents for free to encourage competition, after all. A competitive outreach into space is what gets us into in-system colonization and industry, which is the next big step for humanity's development as a civilization. Since government outreach stalled and basically died, I'm perfectly willing to let private industry pick up that slack.
Musk: This is insane, but it will revolutionize countless things if people want it.
Haters: URGH! ME OOG LIKE STICK! MAKE STICK NOT NEW THING!
O Flora, of the moon, of the dream. O Little ones, O fleeting will of the ancients. Let the hunter be safe. Let them find comfort. And let this dream, their captor, Foretell a pleasant awakening
First, for the sake of this, I'll pre-emptively state I'm talking entirely about the internal Federation itself, so my points stop at its borders; I'm not saying these things don't occur in Star Trek, just that they don't occur in the Federation.
In the Federation, there's no real conflict ever presented. You might get some disputes between colleagues, but even there, it's usually live-and-let-live. This is what I mean by "placid". You never see romantic partners yelling at each other because of stupid bullshit one or both did. Nobody ever faces consequences at work unless they're moustache-twirlingly diabolical to begin with. It's so pleasant and friendly I get a real knee-jerk Stepford Wives feel out of it.
Even Voyager set up to challenge that, by having a combined Maquis crew, and then for the most part just forgot about it except for costuming, aside from Bellana "I'm ANGRY because I'm HALF KLINGON" Torres, who was practically a caricature.
The one show that really challenged all this repeatedly and consistently was Deep Space 9. And rightfully so, IMO.
For the rest, there's never any internal conflicts between Federation members, really. No arguments, no professional disagreements that become feuds, no lies, no betrayals, it just feels like humanity's been neutered, and not in a good way. Like the whole society was lobotomized to remove "negative emotions", and lost all the high points, too.
Weirdly, ST: Discovery is actually doing a pretty decent job of countering this view, themselves.
You can take a utopia too far, and then it becomes immediately dystopic. See also Gattaca, Equilibrium, The Island, etc; when things seem too perfect, I start looking for the hidden darkness. To me, a proper utopia can't be one that quashes human individuality and expression; even when it sparks a little conflict here and there.
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You are 100% incorrect, as the judge found when he dismissed Musk's motion to dismiss.
You can also go back in previous threads on this forum, https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ies-Of-Tweets/ and see that people did believe him.
Similarly there were the gullible Musk-followers that believed that there was nothing wrong with Musk's tweet about Tesla going private and SEC couldn't do anything...
I linked evidence to the contrary.
And a judge found you wrong:
https://www.scribd.com/document/4094...dium=affiliate
So, stop spreading falsehoods.
Similar statements that Musk will win as in
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...in-Tesla-Case/
Wrong then. If Musk were smart he wouldn't have built the useless sub, not tweeted defaming accusations, not repeated them to BuzzFeed and settled a long time ago.
So the launched happened and so far, everything seems to be going according to the plan.
But I saw this on Twitter.
And some people have seen it with their naked eyes.
An astronomer has estimated that if all 12000 of them are launched, you'll be able to see about 50 of them in the night sky, any where, at any given time.
I seriously hope later satellite designs fix it, Iridium fixed their flares... 20 years later.
@Skroe
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