Like ive been telling you guys, these issues are not bugs...

[Elias01]

As someone who has been telling Classic "enthusiasts" just how many actually shitty things were in Vanilla that were changed for the better later on just to have them go "LALALALA NOT LISTENING IT WAS PERFECT", this list makes me laugh.

And what makes you think that 100% of things what got changes are bad? Yes there are several stuff better 9n moder wow. But things like lfg, lfr, sharding, difficulty levels, flying, etc? Such things do not belongs into mmo games.

[Lollis]

Umm anyone who played back in 2006 lol? You played tauren because of that hitbox (as well as the 5% hp bump), it just goes to show how few people around here (and on the beta) actually played vanilla. WTB beta invite blizz, i can provide actual feedback lol.

It's quite funny how many people say stuff like that isn't it. "How can you remember this?"

Memory is extremely complex, people can remember and forget events seemingly at random.

I remember fishing in Redridge at level 24 on my Mage because I wanted to level her skill up for Gahz'ranka in ZG when I reached 60.
I remember how from 1-15-ish the regen rate for mana and hp was completely out of whack.
I remember specific places in the game world where you could blink through and/or climb up walls without having to look them up.
I remember Tauren having larger sizes which caused them to have to unmount all the time when going through doorways.

Some people don't have the memories of a goldfish, others seem baffled by this fact.

[Synros]

The ones reporting these "bugs" are probably the same people who have been waiting for Classic to come back so they can play it... because they miss it so much... except they were never there to miss it... and they dont realize how much of a different game it really is...

Most likely this...

[Shaetha]

Did people really thought /sit would trigger enrage / reckoning in Classic ? Lol







They gave access to the beta to the wrong people, but all those private servers player's tears are delightful.

it did in one of the earlier patches.. I know it was used for that video where the paladin reckoning bombed Kazzak.

[Self Inflicted Wounds]

Some of these have me howling..

[Steelcryo]

i have no problem having to pay for a game.
i have a problem having to pay for beta access when you never have had to do this before.

So they decided to reward people who are still subbed and actively involved in the game and not invite people who aren't actively involved in the game. Seems fair to me. Why would they choose a bunch of people who haven't been playing to test it over people who are actively playing WoW? While yes, many people may have unsubbed while they wait for an update or vanilla to be released, they can't know for sure those unsubbed players would be interested in coming back to test vanilla, where as there is a much higher chance someone who is still subbed is still interested in the game and therefore more likely to be interested in beta testing vanilla.

Tbh the fact they've ever invited people without subs back for beta tests baffles me. I imagine they did it to try and retain players or bring them back, but inviting them to play a buggy broken version of your game seems a strange way to do it. Using active players for beta tests makes far more sense.

[Blayze]

Yeah..."lol" and why do we STILL get tons of different opinions on the game. I mean..I played since release and don't remember everything. And I certainly remember some things subjectively and plain wrong. Do you remember everything in your life correctly?

Not least there is the Mandela effect, but this guy also makes awesome videos on all kinds of stuff...not least that it is possible to implant memories (based on how people remember things wrongly, but swear they are right) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EhKYy_IUkw

Congratz...you should be able somehow make a fortune with that. It is like photographic memory or what, I guess?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNKjShmHw7s

[AceofH]

So they decided to reward people who are still subbed and actively involved in the game and not invite people who aren't actively involved in the game. Seems fair to me. Why would they choose a bunch of people who haven't been playing to test it over people who are actively playing WoW? While yes, many people may have unsubbed while they wait for an update or vanilla to be released, they can't know for sure those unsubbed players would be interested in coming back to test vanilla, where as there is a much higher chance someone who is still subbed is still interested in the game and therefore more likely to be interested in beta testing vanilla.

Tbh the fact they've ever invited people without subs back for beta tests baffles me. I imagine they did it to try and retain players or bring them back, but inviting them to play a buggy broken version of your game seems a strange way to do it. Using active players for beta tests makes far more sense.

why would they choose a bunch of people playing modern wow and clearly have no idea how vanilla was supposed to work over people who actually have a better idea of how vanilla works? why now all of a sudden do they care about rewarding subbed people over those who were actually waiting for classic?
i don't know. you tell me.
because the results from modern testers tell me they have no clue what the heck they are talking about at all.
complaints about stuff not showing up on mini maps.
complaints about quests not showing up that are low level.
complaints about regeneration and spawn rates.

[swdan]

why would they choose a bunch of people playing modern wow and clearly have no idea how vanilla was supposed to work over people who actually have a better idea of how vanilla works? why now all of a sudden do they care about rewarding subbed people over those who were actually waiting for classic?
i don't know. you tell me.
because the results from modern testers tell me they have no clue what the heck they are talking about at all.
complaints about stuff not showing up on mini maps.
complaints about quests not showing up that are low level.
complaints about regeneration and spawn rates.

they invited:
most of the streamers
few old players
few new players
few randoms

note that old players not always remember how stuff worked back in days.

[Phuongvi]

Whats that ? Elitist people from nerf pirate servers complaining ?

[AceofH]

they invited:
most of the streamers
few old players
few new players
few randoms

note that old players not always remember how stuff worked back in days.

and yet if you read their post, they are clearly taking a shot at modern players.

[Redroniksre]

and yet if you read their post, they are clearly taking a shot at modern players.

I dont agree with needing to sub for it, but there are still plenty of vanilla players that still play the modern game. I dont have fantastic memory but i am sure i would misreport things too.

[vsb]

That's, not what is happening here lol. The reason blizzard is getting a ton of bug reports on beta that are "non bugs" is there are a lot of private server players there who never experienced actual vanilla.

Most of those things are working correctly on private servers. So no, that's not private server players.

[exochaft]

I have to admit, I literally laughed out loud when I read the commonly reported "bug" list on some of those items. The quest objectives and points of interest not being on the map or mini-map one and the NPC respawn rate being much slower than in BFA were especially... classic? Guess I'm still one of those people that actually read the quest nowadays and always have to guide people that are so confused as to where to go when the in-game quest helper doesn't show up properly on live (when it's almost always listed in the quest text).

[Ealyssa]

NPCs which offer multiple quests may inconsistently display them as a dot or a “!” on the available quests list. They were inconsistent in 1.12, and we’ve reproduced the exact inconsistency they had back then.

Hahahahaha love how they are just trolling the classic community at this point.

[Aggrophobic]

[QUOTE=Gorgodeus;51205273]

Apparently you don't know what stress testing is, which is primarily what this beta is for.

Hardly, then they would invite more people or even people that did not pay for a sub.

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[QUOTE=AceofH;51205358]

so they should call it what it is then. early access. until then its a beta, until then you get to shut up about what it is and what it is not.
if it was already beta tested, why are they finding issues that are legit issues?

Cry me a river.
It is what it is and you're not playing it. Simple as that.

[Isilarya]

Cry me a river.
It is what it is and you're not playing it. Simple as that.

Well it depends how youd extend that thought. I dont have a sub. Current WoW absolutely does not deserve it and I wont sub for a beta I might not get into when I have 0 intent on ever reinstalling during BFA's lifecycle. If I can get the beta and not access it fine, make it show up on my menu ill log in buy a token and activate my account to play Classic Beta. But if they want me to pay for the opportunity to maybe get the invite? no thats dumb because then money is running and I get no game time out of it because retail can burn at this point.

[Masternap]

I get all of these, except for this one:

NPCs which offer multiple quests may inconsistently display them as a dot or a “!” on the available quests list. They were inconsistent in 1.12, and we’ve reproduced the exact inconsistency they had back then.

This just seems beyond stupid to me and like something that should be fixed. This isn't something that's 'working as intended', enhances gameplay or anything like that. It's just an annoying visual bug that's nothing more than a nuisance.

[Orange Joe]

I get all of these, except for this one:

This just seems beyond stupid to me and like something that should be fixed. This isn't something that's 'working as intended', enhances gameplay or anything like that. It's just an annoying visual bug that's nothing more than a nuisance.

People didn't want vanilla working as intended. They wanted vanilla as it was.

[Paulosio]

Umm anyone who played back in 2006 lol? You played tauren because of that hitbox (as well as the 5% hp bump), it just goes to show how few people around here (and on the beta) actually played vanilla. WTB beta invite blizz, i can provide actual feedback lol.

I played in Vanilla (raided from Molten Core all the way through to naxx although didn't clear naxx), and I can't remember all of the things mentioned in this list.... Stuff about Taurens having a bigger hit box I may have heard about (I honestly can't remember if I did or not) but i'd have no way of confirming it back then because I only ever played as alliance during Vanilla. Other things like warrior health regen I just can't remember about specifically enough to have an opinion even though I did play a warrior up till about level 20 when I decided I wanted to change to hunter (I thought it was cool you could tame pets to be your own personal tank).

I'd imagine it's the same for a lot of people who played in Vanilla.

In fact i'd imagine many people who can remember such specific things are actually people who have played on private servers in recent years. However even those people aren't arbiter's for how things were back in Vanilla because not everything on private servers is exactly how it was in vanilla. So maybe dial down on the snobbery you are displaying.