China and Russia are the two great evils of modern times!

[CmdrShep2154]

How would you feel if the next American president declared China and Russia the two great evils and called Saudi Arabia and China illegitimate regimes and complained that American Muslims are victimized?

[D Luniz]

depends on what they did after that, and the reasons they give for saying it

[Deus Mortis]

How would you feel if the next American president declared China and Russia the two great evils and called Saudi Arabia and China illegitimate regimes and complained that American Muslims are victimized?

Russia and China are already considered the next biggest threats, so that would not be a surprise.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.9c19fee0cb14

[PosPosPos]

Ironically, the only reason the US isn't also widely considered to be a "great evil" is because of China and Russia.

Although that's changing anyway as the nation is increasingly radicalized by Nazism with each passing year.

[Worvon]

Because if you look at it.. Objectively and unbiased.. You'd see that the true 'great evil' is the USA. The shit they've done in the last 100 years is terrible.

Basically boils down to USA just has the better "PR" that spin their human rights violations as "Bringing Freedom", we've seen it happen for decades. As someone born and raised in the US it's exactly as said, you believe you are the good guys but once you view from the outside it really isn't the case.

[NED funded]

Basically boils down to the USA just has the better "PR" that spin their human rights violations as "Bringing Freedom", we've seen it happen for decades. As someone born and raised in the US it's exactly as said, you believe you are the good guys but once you view from the outside it really isn't the case.

Once you view from the outside its considerably better. Russia purposefully starved the Kazakhs and literally half of the population died, some officials went out of their way to straight up tell them to leave the region because they would die otherwise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakh...932%E2%80%9333

[Software]

Russia and China are already considered the next biggest threats, so that would not be a surprise.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.9c19fee0cb14

Russia isn't seen as a tread by Trump and his followers, and since that guy managed to become president of the US that is a problem.

[Worvon]

Once you view from the outside its considerably better. Russia purposefully starved the Kazakhs and literally half of the population died, some officials went out of their way to straight up tell them to leave the region because they would die otherwise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakh...932%E2%80%9333

So they followed the US's strategy for moving the natives? Go figure.

[NED funded]

So they followed the US's strategy for moving the natives? Go figure.

Most of the deaths of the different tribes in the US was the result of diseases like Smallpox. The Russians purposefully starved half of the Kazakh population.

If you want to say they are the same thing go ahead. Sane people know the difference.

[Worvon]

Most of the deaths of the different tribes in the US was the result of diseases like Smallpox. The Russians purposefully starved half of the Kazakh population.

If you want to say they are the same thing go ahead. Sane people know the difference.

Killing off natives for their land is exactly the same thing no matter how it occurs, claiming semantics as a way to be okay with genocide is just sickeningly sociopathic. Literally every non-delusional person knows both were purposeful genocides and defending either is just moronic.

[Kheirn]

Killing off natives for their land is exactly the same thing no matter how it occurs, claiming semantics as a way to be okay with genocide is just sickeningly sociopathic. Literally every non-delusional person knows both were purposeful genocides and defending either is just moronic.

Are we gonna claim the black plague was intentional chemical warfare as well?

[Rennadrel]

Basically boils down to USA just has the better "PR" that spin their human rights violations as "Bringing Freedom", we've seen it happen for decades. As someone born and raised in the US it's exactly as said, you believe you are the good guys but once you view from the outside it really isn't the case.

I mean, it's not like the Americans put over 6 million Jews into concentration camps and murdered them, along with other minority groups just because of their religion or skin colour. But hey, if you want to compare military intervention to the Holocaust in terms of who violated more humans rights, I'd argue that the Nazis are among the biggest offenders because well, genocide. Not that I condone a lot of the US military's rather uncontrolled use of weapons to take out insurgents and terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan causing significant collateral damage.

[Calfredd]

Are we gonna claim the black plague was intentional chemical warfare as well?

No but giving Native Americans pox-laced blankets wasn't by accident.

[Kallisto]

Once you view from the outside its considerably better. Russia purposefully starved the Kazakhs and literally half of the population died, some officials went out of their way to straight up tell them to leave the region because they would die otherwise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakh...932%E2%80%9333

That wasn't Russia. Russia is no more the Soviet Union as England is the United Kingdom. Add to the fact that Stalin who was unquestioned ruler at the time was Georgian means you can't pin the fault at Russia.

Now the shit Yeltsin/Putin has done since then is 100% to blame on Russia and there's enough there. Especially in the last 10 years or so.

[Software]

Because if you look at it.. Objectively and unbiased.. You'd see that the true 'great evil' is the USA. The shit they've done in the last 100 years is terrible.

That sounds pretty subjective and biased, specially if you remember what the USSR/Russia, China, Japan and Germany (to name a few) have done the past century.

Why are you so anti US (and often pro RF) ? Be honest for once.

[PC2]

Why are you so anti US (and often pro RF) ? Be honest for once.

He said he was a communist. He's been brainwashed to think everything Western is evil.

[Software]

He said he was a communist. He's been brainwashed to think everything Western is evil.

If he truely is a communist he most certainly wouldn't like Putin / Russia nowadays.

[Zan15]

How would you feel if the next American president declared China and Russia the two great evils and called Saudi Arabia and China illegitimate regimes and complained that American Muslims are victimized?

So called "greatest generation" and the "baby boomers" always have to have someone to go to war with.

They are a blight on this world and we will all be better off when they die

[PosPosPos]

It's a bit more complicated than that.

Rather than "complicated", I just didn't bother to elaborate. Anyone with functional senses and ethical-moral compass can see what you mentioned here.

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That sounds pretty subjective and biased, specially if you remember what the USSR/Russia, China, Japan and Germany (to name a few) have done the past century.

So...you are saying the US is exactly the same as your list? What is the subjectivity or bias here then?

[Software]

So...you are saying the US is exactly the same as your list?

no

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