U.S President Trump hints at Iran war

[Zygzag]

That's the problem here. US can't just stomp around and do whatever they want because of "business". That's how they got theirselves into Iraq, Vietnam and countless of meaningless wars that have taken hundred of thounsands of lives. The only thing that it will accomplish in the long run is a more unstable world community. Cheaper oil for example can't make up for all the damage.

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Just call it something fancy, like "enhanced interrogation"

But it's already happening whether people accept it or not. First, there is what's really happening, and then the media plays a different narrative to make the war happen.

Iran war is inveitble. Maybe the public is against it now, but they'll change their mind later. Plus Iran is suffocating now due to sanctions. The same exact thing happened in Iraq.

First, you sanction the hell out of them, then watch them turn against their government, then you come in as a liberator.
Plus, Gulf countries are afraid of Iran and the deal is already made to take iran down. If not, Iran will start targeting gulf countries now that Syria is cleaned.

[Masark]

This just shows how sheltered of a life you’ve lived “trump is worse than hitler” my god the stupidity of that statement can’t be properly expressed in words.

Hitler at least killed Hitler. Trump as yet has no such redeeming act.

[ohwell]

You don't have to be Hitler to be total scum.



I wonder why... hmmm

True look at most of the democrats and the republicans. Even Trudeau is a sexual assaulter and embezzler.

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Hitler at least killed Hitler. Trump as yet has no such redeeming act.

I mean if he got rid of Omar or Linda Sarsour that's close enough.

[JohnBrown1917]

Of course, a brony not knowing how utterly incompetent Hitler was as a military leader. His stupidity let the Russians curbstomp him.

The Russians would have won either way.

[Thraendil]

But it's already happening whether people accept it or not. First, there is what's really happening, and then the media plays a different narrative to make the war happen.

Iran war is inveitble. Maybe the public is against it now, but they'll change their mind later. Plus Iran is suffocating now due to sanctions. The same exact thing happened in Iraq.

First, you sanction the hell out of them, then watch them turn against their government, then you come in as a liberator.
Plus, Gulf countries are afraid of Iran and the deal is already made to take iran down. If not, Iran will start targeting gulf countries now that Syria is cleaned.

People have been warned about Trump and his bad decision making. We all knew there was a risk the GOP would surround him with war hawks who'd spew lies and flatter him. This did not need to happen. Obama signed the Iran deal. Had people voted differently, headed the many warnings that were given, we could have a lot more stable world today.

The American people need to learn from their mistakes and make a better decision next time. It didn't work with Bush, but maybe Trump's failure will teach the US something.

[Zygzag]

But it's already happening whether people accept it or not. First, there is what's really happening, and then the media plays a different narrative to make the war happen.

Iran war is inveitble. Maybe the public is against it now, but they'll change their mind later. Plus Iran is suffocating now due to sanctions. The same exact thing happened in Iraq.

First, you sanction the hell out of them, then watch them turn against their government, then you come in as a liberator.
Plus, Gulf countries are afraid of Iran and the deal is already made to take iran down. If not, Iran will start targeting gulf countries now that Syria is cleaned.

It's really hard to focus on politics when there is a SUPER BOWL every year. People have zero idea about foreign policy. Why is Iran different than Lybia or Syria? No body gives Obama bad rep for that. Iran is actually hurting neighbours, who happened to be tied to a US dollar.

Come on

[D Luniz]

*snip* It didn't work with Bush, but maybe Trump's failure will teach the US something.

seeing the whole crux of this is the possible repeat of the Iraq war idiocy, on a country that is only the way it is because the US installed the Shah, I doubt anything will be learned

[Thraendil]

It's really hard to focus on politics when there is a SUPER BOWL every year. People have zero idea about foreign policy. Why is Iran different than Lybia or Syria? No body gives Obama bad rep for that. Iran is actually hurting neighbours, who happened to be tied to a US dollar.

Come on

Obama acted after consulting the international community. It doesn't mean that I support him, but at least he tried to seek an endorsement from the rest of the world. If I remember correctly, it was France who spearheaded the intervention in Libya. Where was France when US invaded Iraq?

Additionally, those wars were nothing compared to Iraq or Afghanistan. Did US have boots on the ground in Libya and Syria for example? How come US stayed in Iraq for so long, but not in the wars Obama "started"? There's a difference between starting wars unilaterally, boots on the ground, without any endorsement from the international community, than acting with their support in a very limited scope. Eventhough both might be wrong decisions in this case, it's not 50/50 we're talking about here. It's not like the Libya intervention was nearly as bad as the one in Iraq.

Furthermore, you don't have to bomb and invade countries to solve problems. The Iran deal was a perfectly good solution. Only the US left it (as we can see now, in order to provoke Iran into action).

[CynicalPenguin]

If anyone here who hates trump had half a brain we wouldn't have trump haters, he's not great but he's not hitler get over yourselves, and iran has been building up forces in order to combat the US for quite some time.

If everyone that voted trump had a brain, trump wouldnt be president

[Adam Jensen]

If anyone here who hates trump had half a brain we wouldn't have trump haters, he's not great but he's not hitler get over yourselves, and iran has been building up forces in order to combat the US for quite some time.

Iran isn't suicidal. They're not going to attack the world's most powerful military force. We'd crush them in a matter of weeks just like we crushed Saddam in a matter of weeks. They saber rattle. They've always saber-rattled. It's what they do.

It isn't tearing down Iran that I fear for any war against them, but the decades long quagmire it'll lead to, for the third time.

[ParanoiD84]

Iran would stand no chance, then there is israel and the saudis who happy to fight iran. They are not going to attack the us lol.

[JohnBrown1917]

Iran would stand no chance, then there is israel and the saudis who happy to fight iran. They are not going to attack the us lol.

Yeah.. its not them who will start the war, is this not obvious by now?


But good luck against them on the defensive, Vietnam 2.0 - Mountain boogaloo.

[ParanoiD84]

Yeah.. its not them who will start the war, is this not obvious by now?

There will be no war lol.

[JohnBrown1917]

There will be no war lol.

Yeah, its not like the US never starts any wars. They are just moving more troops close to Irak for funsies, I suppose. John Bolton is the most peacefull man to ever serve the US, afterall.

[HumbleDuck]

Iran isn't suicidal. They're not going to attack the world's most powerful military force. We'd crush them in a matter of weeks just like we crushed Saddam in a matter of weeks. They saber rattle. They've always saber-rattled. It's what they do.

It isn't tearing down Iran that I fear for any war against them, but the decades long quagmire it'll lead to, for the third time.

They aren't, but what if someone else attacked some oil tankers and a building near US embassy then blamed it on Iran? You know, Russia and Saudi would both love something like that to happen.

Ps. Iran is a very different game compared to Iraq, it's much larger, has a larger population, has a diverse climate ( temperatures from -50 to 160) and terrain ( lots and lots of mountains and jungles) and on top of all these there are no organized opposition forces within the country. Oh, and a battle hardened asymmetrical army with proxies all around the world.

[InTheEnd]

isreal is frothing at the mouth for war with iran

If the USA goes to war with Iran, then I think that dog cartoon of Trump might not have been so wrong after all. We all know who wants the USA is to attack Iran.

[JohnBrown1917]

If the USA goes to war with Iran, then I think that dog cartoon of Trump might not have been so wrong after all. We all know who wants the USA is to attack Iran.

John Bolton and his warhawk friends?

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They aren't, but what if someone else attacked some oil tankers and a building near US embassy then blamed it on Iran? You know, Russia and Saudi would both love something like that to happen.

Ps. Iran is a very different game compared to Iraq, it's much larger, has a larger population, has a diverse climate ( temperatures from -50 to 160) and terrain ( lots and lots of mountains and jungles) and on top of all these there are no organized opposition forces within the country. Oh, and a battle hardened asymmetrical army with proxies all around the world.

It'll just be Vietnam over again, which would be funny if it would not be so horrible for the citizens of Iran.

[ParanoiD84]

Yeah, its not like the US never starts any wars. They are just moving more troops close to Irak for funsies, I suppose. John Bolton is the most peacefull man to ever serve the US, afterall.

Everyone have been to war or started wars it's just recently in our history we are alittle bit more peaceful.

Even Iran's whole history is just war and conquest starting with the persian empire, achaemenid empire, seleucid empire, parthian empire, sasanian empire, then there is the islamic conquest of iran then the mongol conquest etc etc all the way to the iran iraq war lol non stop conquest and wars.

[Thraendil]

Everyone have been to war or started wars it's just recently in our history we are alittle bit more peaceful.

Even Iran's whole history is just war and conquest starting with the persian empire, achaemenid empire, seleucid empire, parthian empire, sasanian empire, then there is the islamic conquest of iran then the mongol conquest etc etc all the way to the iran iraq war lol non stop conquest and wars. And this goes for much of the planet.

Yeah and we Swedes used to be vikings. Do you see us sailing around and pillaging today just because Iran's war with Iraq? It was 1000 years ago. One would think humanity has done some progress since then.

You can't just start wars and then excuse it by blaming vikings, ancient Persia etc. You are accountable for your own actions.

[ParanoiD84]

Yeah and we Swedes used to be vikings. Do you see us sailing around and pillaging today just because Iran's war with Iraq? It was 1000 years ago. One would think humanity has done some progress since then.

You can't just start wars and then excuse it by blaming vikings, ancient Persia etc. You are accountable for your own actions.

We where also a superpower back in the days, shame it didnt last that long.