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    Gee week starting off on a good foot

    After trade war, tariffs, tax cuts.....we get

    Ford laying off 7k workers
    https://apnews.com/0036437d785c483fb40c8a7dbe5a22d0

    I guess its better than the 14k GM laid off 6 months ago.


    Capital spending way down from last year

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/big-com...s&page=1&pos=8

    Down to 2.7% from 5.4% last Quarter and down 16% from a year ago.

    Some of the biggest winners from the Tax Cuts who got more than a billion dollars in savings are cutting back.

    The top 10 invested 6% less this quarter.

    This includes Apple, ATT, Verizon, Caterpillar, Google, etc

    Examples:
    Caterpillar 547 million from 757 million
    Google 4.6 billion 33% decrease
    Apple Spending fell 1.8 billion
    Fedex 1.1 billion from 1.4 billion.


    Seems just like those pesky raises and bonuses that disappeared in year 2, so does the capital spending bump...shocking no one.

    Guess this just means more stock buybacks

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    But I thought that trickle down and all that was a legitimate economic model? Guess companies having more to spend doesn't mean they will spend it, who would have thought!

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    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-with-congress

    More info coming, but a judge just ruled against Trump in his fight to protect his financial records from legal Congressional requests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-with-congress

    More info coming, but a judge just ruled against Trump in his fight to protect his financial records from legal Congressional requests.
    Beat me to it. One of the important things is the judge will not stay the decision so that Trump and the Trump org can appeal. We should see documents soon.

    This is also super significant because it sets precedent that should be used for almost all of the current congressional subpoena battles.
    Last edited by kaelleria; 2019-05-20 at 09:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-with-congress

    More info coming, but a judge just ruled against Trump in his fight to protect his financial records from legal Congressional requests.
    Nice find. Fantastic ruling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaelleria View Post
    Beat me to it. One of the important things is the judge will not stay the decision so that Trump and the Trump org can appeal. We should see documents soon.

    This is also super significant because it sets precedent that should be used for almost all of the current congressional subpoena battles.
    Great point about the stay. Means Treasury has to produce even if the ruling is appealed to the Appellate Court (and assuming SCOTUS). Curious to see if the Appellate Court will place a stay upon receipt of the appeal. Wonder how Treasury will respond?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-with-congress

    More info coming, but a judge just ruled against Trump in his fight to protect his financial records from legal Congressional requests.
    Welp, the Trumpkins won't be happy since their position is that God Emperor Trump is above the law.
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    http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public...ez_track_may20

    Trump favorite poll has him at 44%. So what happened this week lol cause we know rr is also like 5-8 points off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViolenceJackRespectsWomen View Post
    http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public...ez_track_may20

    Trump favorite poll has him at 44%. So what happened this week lol cause we know rr is also like 5-8 points off?
    Well you know, when the best economy ever means record farm losses, record car manufacturing losses and still no clean coal, it reflects badly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Sekulow said they're going to appeal ASAP. Anyone know the chain of appeals for this case? Would it go to SCOTUS, should SCOTUS decide to take the case, if they lose this appeal?
    It goes to the D.C. Appellate Court, and from there to SCOTUS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViolenceJackRespectsWomen View Post
    http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public...ez_track_may20

    Trump favorite poll has him at 44%. So what happened this week lol cause we know rr is also like 5-8 points off?
    I'm pretty sure Rasmussen hasn't been anywhere near accurate since like 2000. You could literally see them skew as their website changed, and they filled up with banner ads for like, catheters, and buying gold coins, and doomsday prepper bags, and chicken bone milkshakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polyxo View Post
    I'm pretty sure Rasmussen hasn't been anywhere near accurate since like 2000. You could literally see them skew as their website changed, and they filled up with banner ads for like, catheters, and buying gold coins, and doomsday prepper bags, and chicken bone milkshakes.
    Scott Rassmussen hasn't been with Rassmussen since 2013. He now works for HarrisX. When your president and founder has no faith in your results and business practices, you've got a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-with-congress

    More info coming, but a judge just ruled against Trump in his fight to protect his financial records from legal Congressional requests.
    Probably my top 2 moments from the article was 1. Trump's lawyer having no answer for how his claims that the House has no right to investigate the President has any standing with precedents like Watergate and Whitewater. Then 2. was the Judge saying it is unfathomable for Congress being able to remove a President for reasons leading up to criminal behavior is unable to investigate said criminal behavior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polyxo View Post
    I'm pretty sure Rasmussen hasn't been anywhere near accurate since like 2000. You could literally see them skew as their website changed, and they filled up with banner ads for like, catheters, and buying gold coins, and doomsday prepper bags, and chicken bone milkshakes.
    Rasmussen called it for Hillary in both popular and EC.. in their editorial.

    ..but that has since been scrubbed from their web site and they just left old polls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pathora44 View Post
    What is even funnier is that he was not only handed millions of dollars from his father to start his business. He then later ruthlessly had his father removed as CEO from his own company and he took over. Basically he stole his father's company from him.
    and pushed his brother's family from their inheritance WHILE they had a sick kid that was accruing medical bills

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    Quote Originally Posted by D Luniz View Post
    and pushed his brother's family from their inheritance WHILE they had a sick kid that was accruing medical bills
    That just proves how good of a republican politician he is. Can't be giving money to sick kids.
    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    I don't care if he committed tax fraud. Scoring political victories and crushing the aspirations of your political opponents is more important than adhering to moral principles.
    Well at least they're being honest now.

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    Justin Amash on the Tea Party: “It turns out a lot of them were not in favor of limiting the size of government, they were just opposed to the president at the time.” https://t.co/ASwIsIaeOQ
    https://twitter.com/Eugene_Scott/sta...334577152?s=19

    Sort of a "No sh*t Sherlock" statement. Some Never-Trumper have also stated this but we knew.

    Trump’s Staunch GOP Supporters Have Roots in the Tea Party
    https://www.people-press.org/2019/05...the-tea-party/

    So no surprise that Tea Party members are staunch Trump supporters. I'm sure Trumpkins/Tea Party are going to say it all about the 'gubbberment'. But this is bs it was always about Obama and you all know why. Trump just stirred up more nationalism, xenophobia and racism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shon237 View Post
    https://twitter.com/Eugene_Scott/sta...334577152?s=19

    Sort of a "No sh*t Sherlock" statement. Some Never-Trumper have also stated this but we knew.



    https://www.people-press.org/2019/05...the-tea-party/

    So no surprise that Tea Party members are staunch Trump supporters. I'm sure Trumpkins/Tea Party are going to say it all about the 'gubbberment'. But this is bs it was always about Obama and you all know why. Trump just stirred up more nationalism, xenophobia and racism.
    The irony of it all being that Amash is/was once apparently a Tea Party darling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    The irony of it all being that Amash is/was once apparently a Tea Party darling.
    And might be running for President. Why Trump should be worried about Justin Amash

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    The irony of it all being that Amash is/was once apparently a Tea Party darling.
    Yes he was one of the initial tea party politicians and he is incredibly far right wing. His vote score has gone down with some groups because he doesn't like Trump, but that doesn't mean his politics have changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    The irony of it all being that Amash is/was once apparently a Tea Party darling.
    Umm yeah, about that.

    JUST IN: House Freedom Caucus votes to condemn Justin Amash over Trump impeachment call https://t.co/8BtEPs8a93 https://t.co/bQHmkJE3ck
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