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    the biden crime bill

    So i see people on this forum specifically and online, reddit etc, talk about how joe biden of all people is too politically correctt and thats why they are going to vote for trump, because the democrats are just TOO far left

    meanwhile the left in the primary found this video

    http://www.c-span.org/video/?c479370...den-crime-bill

    "Biden crime bill calls for the death penalty for 51 offenses... a wag in the newspaper recently wrote that that Biden had made it a death penalty offense for everything but jaywalking ... I am supporter of the death penalty without the racial justice provision"


    so if biden is hated by the right because hes too politically correct and an "SJW" when hes like this
    and the actual far left bernie supporters are saying hes a racist whatnot whatever, joe biden is still polling at 40% among democrats!!! (double bernie)


    so can we stop this internet meme that democrats are too far left and politically correct already?

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    To Trump supporters everything is far left. Even moderate right wingers like Biden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    So i see people on this forum specifically and online, reddit etc, talk about how joe biden of all people is too politically correctt and thats why they are going to vote for trump, because the democrats are just TOO far left
    They were going to vote Trump anyway. They're just giving a BS reason to hide how uninformed they are about policy.

    meanwhile the left in the primary found this video

    http://www.c-span.org/video/?c479370...den-crime-bill

    "Biden crime bill calls for the death penalty for 51 offenses... a wag in the newspaper recently wrote that that Biden had made it a death penalty offense for everything but jaywalking ... I am supporter of the death penalty without the racial justice provision"
    This clip needs more context.

    so can we stop this internet meme that democrats are too far left and politically correct already?
    It's more of a misconception by ill-informed right wingers than a meme.

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    So did you create this thread just to make this jab?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Templar 331 View Post
    They were going to vote Trump anyway. They're just giving a BS reason to hide how uninformed they are about policy.


    So did you create this thread just to make this jab?
    yes,basically its one of the biggest misinformation campaigns on the internet, where they try to conflate the democratic party with democratic socialist or campus activist instead of focusing on the ACTUAL POLITICS of the candidates, and you have " intellectuals" like jordan peterson and dave rubin who say we should vote for nationalist because the left is cares too much about social justice( not remotely if you follow actual politics which they dont)

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    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    yes,basically its one of the biggest misinformation campaigns on the internet, where they try to conflate the democratic party with democratic socialist or campus activist instead of focusing on the ACTUAL POLITICS of the candidates, and you have " intellectuals" like jordan peterson and dave rubin who say we should vote for nationalist because the left is cares too much about social justice( not remotely if you follow actual politics which they dont)
    Not seeing what any of that has to do with ethics in games journalism...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Templar 331 View Post
    Not seeing what any of that has to do with ethics in games journalism...
    its a problem people think thats even a thing while our democracy is on the brink of collapse, i know this is a video game forum but im trying to really get these people to think objectively about politics.

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    That was many years ago. People can change. Also, I would not look at his stance for the death penalty for certain murders as a bad thing anyway. Odds are high he will be the next president of the US.
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    You don't need to be far left to see him as the scum he is.

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    So i see people on this forum specifically and online, reddit etc, talk about how joe biden of all people is too politically correctt and thats why they are going to vote for trump, because the democrats are just TOO far left
    I don't see anyone say this except people in r/The_Donald and 4chan. And they don't count as "people."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapemask View Post
    I don't see anyone say this except people in r/The_Donald and 4chan. And they don't count as "people."
    The whole "intellectual dark web" jordan peterson, dave rubin, make this argument, they acted like hillary was a marxist...

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    That's fucked up. People you disagree with are definitely still people. You're doing the exact thing they do. Simply don't. Never dehumanize others, never, ever.
    Nope. Still not people. Can't dehumanize things that aren't people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CryotriX View Post
    Cool, that makes you a Berniebro as well, welcome to the club, enjoy your stay.
    Bernie screams free college and free healthcare then kinda shrugs his shoulders at everything else. He has no actual policy platform for being PRESIDENT, only legislature positions

    If you're for an extensive policy platform from a "left" winger that can actually win vs Trump, welcome to being a Biden supporter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Emails View Post
    Bernie screams free college and free healthcare then kinda shrugs his shoulders at everything else. He has no actual policy platform for being PRESIDENT, only legislature positions

    If you're for an extensive policy platform from a "left" winger that can actually win vs Trump, welcome to being a Biden supporter.
    Biden has no platform.
    He...
    1: Doesn't really have the strength of will to actually pick a position.
    2: Will pretty much be Hillary Clinton but with a penis.

    I mean, if you're voting for Biden, you're basically voting for "Hillary, but with a dick." He's the typical stock wannabe centrist democrat who panders to the left to get votes while courting the right because they think the left is in their pocket. He's Democrat #7 and about as interesting as wet toast.

    And if you think Bernie's campaign is limited to two select legislative positions, you know jack shit.
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    Biden has always been fairly conservative by Democratic standards- today, much of his record is out of step not just with the Progressive left, but with the mainstream of the party. But voters associate him with Obama good feelings, so he’s in the lead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Emails View Post
    Bernie screams free college and free healthcare then kinda shrugs his shoulders at everything else. He has no actual policy platform for being PRESIDENT, only legislature positions
    Imagine having 8500 posts in Politics and being this uninformed.

    Meanwhile, Biden was asked about his plan for healthcare and said he “didn’t have time” to give any actual specifics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gestopft View Post
    Biden has always been fairly conservative by Democratic standards- today, much of his record is out of step not just with the Progressive left, but with the mainstream of the party. But voters associate him with Obama good feelings, so he’s in the lead.



    Imagine having 8500 posts in Politics and being this uninformed.

    Meanwhile, Biden was asked about his plan for healthcare and said he “didn’t have time” to give any actual specifics.
    The centre/centre-right can't help itself but pretend anybody to the left of them has no plans, becease the truth hurts too much.

    Can't do aything to improve society, now can we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    Biden has no platform.
    He...
    1: Doesn't really have the strength of will to actually pick a position.
    2: Will pretty much be Hillary Clinton but with a penis.

    I mean, if you're voting for Biden, you're basically voting for "Hillary, but with a dick." He's the typical stock wannabe centrist democrat who panders to the left to get votes while courting the right because they think the left is in their pocket. He's Democrat #7 and about as interesting as wet toast.

    And if you think Bernie's campaign is limited to two select legislative positions, you know jack shit.
    I would argue he is worse than Clinton, he is more conservative and supported a lot of shitty policies in the past(while saying he has no regrets).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    Biden has no platform.
    He...
    1: Doesn't really have the strength of will to actually pick a position.
    2: Will pretty much be Hillary Clinton but with a penis.

    I mean, if you're voting for Biden, you're basically voting for "Hillary, but with a dick." He's the typical stock wannabe centrist democrat who panders to the left to get votes while courting the right because they think the left is in their pocket. He's Democrat #7 and about as interesting as wet toast.

    And if you think Bernie's campaign is limited to two select legislative positions, you know jack shit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    The centre/centre-right can't help itself but pretend anybody to the left of them has no plans, becease the truth hurts too much.

    Can't do aything to improve society, now can we?

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    I would argue he is worse than Clinton, he is more conservative and supported a lot of shitty policies in the past(while saying he has no regrets).

    Still miles and miles better than Donald fucking Trump.


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    Biden rebukes those notions if he casts down Trump, and frankly that's the single most important political step to be taken at this time.


    Once the republican establishment is sent home with a black eye and a few chipped teeth, then we can go back to talking about adult things like healthcare and college tuition. Right now they're screaming too much from the children's table for sensible debate, and they need to be shut up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Still miles and miles better than Donald fucking Trump.

    .

    This is not about fucking Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    Biden has no platform.
    He...
    1: Doesn't really have the strength of will to actually pick a position.
    2: Will pretty much be Hillary Clinton but with a penis.

    I mean, if you're voting for Biden, you're basically voting for "Hillary, but with a dick." He's the typical stock wannabe centrist democrat who panders to the left to get votes while courting the right because they think the left is in their pocket. He's Democrat #7 and about as interesting as wet toast.

    And if you think Bernie's campaign is limited to two select legislative positions, you know jack shit.
    I always get told I'm clueless about Bernie's platforms... that include EXECUTIVE positions and NOT legislative, but when challenged to tell me what they are, people tell me I'm clueless, that I should go research it myself, etc. Funny how Bernie Bros themselves never really know what those executive positions are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Butter Emails View Post
    I always get told I'm clueless about Bernie's platforms... that include EXECUTIVE positions and NOT legislative, but when challenged to tell me what they are, people tell me I'm clueless, that I should go research it myself, etc. Funny how Bernie Bros themselves never really know what those executive positions are.
    I'm honestly very curious what sort of line you're drawing here. Is this one of "when I'm in charge I'll do the thing!"? Because it feels like you're trying to draw a line that has never actually existed in politics simply to shit on Sanders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    simply to shit on Sanders.
    Pretty sure that's the case, especially when there's an extensive wikipedia article detailing all or most of his positions.

    But you know, it's easier to be intellectually lazy and handwave everything.
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