Why is it ok to blame The Media for politics snd Government but not Violence?

[Doctor Amadeus]

Why is it ok to blame The Media for politics snd Government but not Violence?

Seems to me the only difference is one is aimed at children and kids who aren’t expected to know any better and the other is aimed at adults that are expected to and should.

[Ghostpanther]

Why is it ok to blame The Media for politics snd Government but not Violence?

Seems to me the only difference is one is aimed at children and kids who aren’t expected to know any better and the other is aimed at adults that are expected to and should.

It is ok and they are blamed for both. But the real blame for a lot of issues people have begins in their homes.

[Doctor Amadeus]

It is ok and they are blamed for both. But the real blame for a lot of issues people have begins in their homes.

Interesting. I just think it’s funny how the media is all encompassing and source for evil and moral degradation until it’s not. Typically all in the (SS) breath by idiots.

Like the media has so much pop and influence it can control politicians governments and even the general public even to the point of conspiracy. All to influence people who should know better and have more power

However the same media shouldn’t be blamed from getting gets hooked on poor eating habits as children and addicted to violent video games. The most vulnerable and least accountable.

[Ghostpanther]

Interesting. I just think it’s funny how the media is all encompassing and source for evil and moral degradation until it’s not. Typically all in the (SS) breath by idiots.

Like the media has so much pop and influence it can control politicians governments and even the general public even to the point of conspiracy. All to influence people who should know better and have more power

However the same media shouldn’t be blamed from getting gets hooked on poor eating habits as children and addicted to violent video games. The most vulnerable and least accountable.

I like how Denzil Washington answered a question about the crime, high incarceration rates among some people and was the justice system to blame? He said; " Do not blame the system, it begins in the home. Some will say, well, I did not have a father to direct me and my question would be, where was your father? "

[zenkai]

Why is it ok to blame The Media for politics snd Government but not Violence?

Seems to me the only difference is one is aimed at children and kids who aren’t expected to know any better and the other is aimed at adults that are expected to and should.

People are responsible for their own actions but the media does give people a reason. School shooting is influenced by the media, shooters want to be heard, they want to be infamous and the media gives them the platform the want. Some media outlets is starting to take responsibility and refuse to report the shooters identity.

I expect to see more people to live stream their killing sprees in the future.

[Exeris]

People having problems with obesity, drugs or anger issues and so on, in my experience they almost exclusively have failures for parents.

[Doctor Amadeus]

I like how Denzil Washington answered a question about the crime, high incarceration rates among some people and was the justice system to blame? He said; " Do not blame the system, it begins in the home. Some will say, well, I did not have a father to direct me and my question would be, where was your father? "

Yeah but environment plays a roll too. The expectations we would have for people regardless of circumstances. Blaming a lack of fathers only goes so far. Culture also breeds actin.

[Ghostpanther]

Yeah but environment plays a roll too. The expectations we would have for people regardless of circumstances. Blaming a lack of fathers only goes so far. Culture also breeds actin.

The family unit is also a environment. And a culture.

[Kumorii]

People are responsible for their own actions but the media does give people a reason. School shooting is influenced by the media, shooters want to be heard, they want to be infamous and the media gives them the platform the want. Some media outlets is starting to take responsibility and refuse to report the shooters identity.

I expect to see more people to live stream their killing sprees in the future.

The thing is that it stems from not being heard. That doesn't mean they want to get into media. Some do, don't get me wrong. However when I hear people talk about them wanting to be heard it's because they have been ignored when they just feel worse and worse, either through mental issues or excess bullying.

Media stopping to report the killers name won't really stop shootings from happening. They aren't being heard by their school or family that can help them get the help they need. Media has no influence on that. They need to be heard by the ones that are supposed to help them.

As long as their problems are being ignored shootings will continue to happen regardless of media's reporting.

Still think Marilyn mansons input on the colombine shooting is spot on. We need to listen to the kids, we don't or tell them to suck it up and in worst case scenarios they snap and fix their issues with drastic measures.I highly doubt one of those kids wanted attention from the media instead of attention from the parents or doctors.

[Doctor Amadeus]

People are responsible for their own actions but the media does give people a reason. School shooting is influenced by the media, shooters want to be heard, they want to be infamous and the media gives them the platform the want. Some media outlets is starting to take responsibility and refuse to report the shooters identity.

I expect to see more people to live stream their killing sprees in the future.

Yeah all of the above is true. However what I blame the most is bad information the news is canned now all of it has a script unless it’s the infotainment.

Lack of journalism or the ability to go against anything not in line with bottom line.

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The family unit is also a environment. And a culture.

Right families right more than one. Can’t blame a lack of fathers when no fathers are there. Then there is the influence of what fathers are there to do.

The bottom line is no I don’t agree with you. Because before we got here we were there. How did we get from there to here if back then was so great and it was better then.

If something was better then we should have more of it now so obviously it wasn’t.

Before you respond as to why that might be and I’ll disagree with. Understand what I said applies to more than fathers. If societies were better then we wouldn’t have what we have now good and bad.

So no I don’t agree with that line or Denzel. Lack of fathers if you call it that is a symptom like everything else.

[Beazy]

I highly doubt one of those kids wanted attention from the media instead of attention from the parents or doctors.

I dont know man, have you seen the un-redacted columbine shooting videos?

I wish I never watched them with the sound turned on.

[Kumorii]

I dont know man, have you seen the un-redacted columbine shooting videos?

I wish I never watched them with the sound turned on.

My point is that the core issue of what's causing shootings aren't "I wanna be media fameous". It's probably being neglected and or bullied and no one cares to listen to their issues. Which gets worse and worse and in the end results in "I will make people listen to me" sort of thing. Craving media attention or fame is when the need for attention has been ignored for too long.

I highly doubt someone feeling awful and plan a school shooting will go "oh they won't report my name?" GUESS IT'S NO POINT.
They will still be "heard" by the ones that ignored them if they follow through.

[zenkai]

The thing is that it stems from not being heard. That doesn't mean they want to get into media. Some do, don't get me wrong. However when I hear people talk about them wanting to be heard it's because they have been ignored when they just feel worse and worse, either through mental issues or excess bullying.

Media stopping to report the killers name won't really stop shootings from happening. They aren't being heard by their school or family that can help them get the help they need. Media has no influence on that. They need to be heard by the ones that are supposed to help them.

As long as their problems are being ignored shootings will continue to happen regardless of media's reporting.

Still think Marilyn mansons input on the colombine shooting is spot on. We need to listen to the kids, we don't or tell them to suck it up and in worst case scenarios they snap and fix their issues with drastic measures.I highly doubt one of those kids wanted attention from the media instead of attention from the parents or doctors.

It won't stop it but it will slow it down. There is a reason why school shootings shot up after columbine.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/...tching-on.html


Inspired by Columbine, Brazil pair kill eight and themselves in school shooting

[Gurluas]

The Media rile people up, but ultimately it is stupid people that get riled up by the media.

[Kumorii]

It won't stop it but it will slow it down. There is a reason why school shootings shot up after columbine.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/...tching-on.html


Inspired by Columbine, Brazil pair kill eight and themselves in school shooting

Ofc, because it showed that people would finally listen to them. No one is denying that. The problem still stems from them being ignored within their communities to the point it boils over to media attention. To prevent it is to listen to people before the problem gets big enough for them to do these kind of things.

Denying media attention won't solve their mental issues caused by neglect.

[Beazy]

My point is that the core issue of what's causing shootings aren't "I wanna be media fameous". It's probably being neglected and or bullied and no one cares to listen to their issues. Which gets worse and worse and in the end results in "I will make people listen to me" sort of thing.

Oh yeah, I see what you mean. they wanted to be heard. What about? Who knows. In the video they ramble about being famous and "people knowing" while they walk around and shoot people.

[Mormolyce]

Blaming the media is pretty much literally shooting the messenger.

Of course, the media landscape has been poisoned by propaganda outlets posing as media. That of course is the intention, to undermine trust in the media so it cannot be used against liars and the corrupt.

[Kumorii]

Oh yeah, I see what you mean. they wanted to be heard. What about? Who knows. In the video they ramble about being famous and "people knowing" while they walk around and shoot people.

Indeed, at best the denying media attention might delay a shooting till it gets even worse for them. Which they still get Btw. People will still report it. We can't ignore reporting shootings. Eventually the names will come out. Their actions speaks louder than thwor name though. Their impact has been made.

I just find it odd that people think it will somehow help prevent them.

[Mormolyce]

Inspired by Columbine, Brazil pair kill eight and themselves in school shooting

You could try to stop anyone reporting on your annual school shootings.

Or, crazy idea, you could try gun control. LOL.

[zenkai]

Ofc, because it showed that people would finally listen to them. No one is denying that. The problem still stems from them being ignored within their communities to the point it boils over to media attention. To prevent it is to listen to people before the problem gets big enough for them to do these kind of things.

Denying media attention won't solve their mental issues caused by neglect.

I do agree a huge part of the problem is the kids getting bullied and teachers/parents ignoring it. When I was a kid bullies teased you or you got into a fight now and then, bullies today say things like "you should kill yourself" Also when I was a kid you were a wuss if the fight was more than one on one, now it's a game vs 1 small kid.

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You could try to stop anyone reporting on your annual school shootings.

Or, crazy idea, you could try gun control. LOL.

You can report on school shootings without giving the shooter a platform. There is no reason to plaster their name and face all over the news unless they are on the run.