Patch 8.2 PTR - Conflict and Strife PvP Talent Essence

[Spl4sh3r]

I am curious as to why only Rogue and Hunter gets the same for all specializations. Mages and Warlock should technically get the same ones as well, all of them being Pure DPS and such. Otherwise I'd prefer if Hunters and Rogues at least get more specialization specific ones.

[Rozz]

I would've preferred that my hunter got the hawk aoe CD. We already have pretty good survival as it, IDK why they chose the feign death talent. I just want a better way to hit multiple targets, since cleave/aoe feels shitty and barrage sucks.

[Gadzooks]

Is PvP participation down? That's usually why they funnel PvE players into PvP content.

[Shelly]

12% Spell crit, so about 6% more Raid DPS isn't to shabby. Feral is much weaker with only 5% physical crit.

Especially since keeping that up is pretty trivial. Once you stacked it up, you just need one SS every 18 seconds, and if you can't manage that, you're probably not up to raiding to begin with.

The feral crit + heal is humongous though. 6% of your max health every 6s could save the raid in a lot of clutch situations.

Either way I can see every bleeding edge group requiring one of each.

Which is really the big deal, it locks at least one if not two raid slots. Although on bleeding edge I think it's feral that needs more love than a lazer chicken.

[azkhane]

Warrior prot one sucks a lot, BEST way to get your dps or healer killed? Root mobs with raging or Big amounts of boostering or a big pull on a necrotic week

[Krille]

I don't understand ppl complaining. Blizz: Here have some cool pruned abilities. Player base: WTF MAN THATS TOO OP REEE.

It's so annoying, can we have some fun in the game.

[Nnyco]

I don't understand ppl complaining. Blizz: Here have some cool pruned abilities. Player base: WTF MAN THATS TOO OP REEE.

It's so annoying, can we have some fun in the game.

The problem isnt really that we get op stuff, but rather that specs like boomie get 12% crit chance, while other specs get some C-tier pvp talent that gives some crappy uttility. Unholy for example should get abom, not necrotic strike.

[Asrialol]

Hum how does the dk frost one works?
I mean dealing 6% of a boss total life with one strike is enormous. 17 dk frost and the boss die on pull.

No, those talents/abilities have a damage cap. For instance, if I do a 2m HP elite for a WQ or so, it doesn't do 6% of that npc's life. Much less.

[Nnyco]

No, those talents/abilities have a damage cap. For instance, if I do a 2m HP elite for a WQ or so, it doesn't do 6% of that npc's life. Much less.

Theres a simple rule for spells like these in pve, if the mob has more hp than you, the % is based on your hp, not the mobs.

[Ealyssa]

Warrior prot one sucks a lot, BEST way to get your dps or healer killed? Root mobs with raging or Big amounts of boostering or a big pull on a necrotic week

Then don't use it ? It's optional. You can use another essence...

[Krille]

The problem isnt really that we get op stuff, but rather that specs like boomie get 12% crit chance, while other specs get some C-tier pvp talent that gives some crappy uttility. Unholy for example should get abom, not necrotic strike.

Its perfectly fine to not use this essence as well. It doesn't have to be BiS for everyone.

[Siuo]

can't even chose what PVP talent I want to get? man stop telling me all the time what to do in your game it is so annoying.

I reforged spirit in MOP because it also granted meele hit. Who did that? Right, alomst noone. F*** this cookie-cutter bullsh*t

[Bane-Thunder-God]

I guess it was too much of an ask to have Ultimate Retribution as the PvP talent for Ret would be too op rezzing in combat eh? At least give us Divine Punisher sheez.

[Kaibel]

I like this, there are some really cool PvP skills in the game

[Arainie]

I think you, and others, misread what that says. It says the Damage is capped at the players maximum health, meaning if 6% of the bosses HP exceeds the DKs health, then it just does damage equal to their maximum health.

You are probably right!

[NoiseTank13]

This is a fucking awful idea.

Don't punish PvE players just because no one wants to PvP.

[Th3Scourge]

This is a terrible idea for PvE.

For starters, why the fuck would an Unholy DK ever use Necrotic strike in PvE? I would much rather they allow for a extra 100 tier talent point than allowing some stupidly impractical and imbalanced PvP talents to be used in PvE.

Oh, and let's give warlocks an extended duration for UA. Jesus

This isn't fucking Diablo

[GreenJesus]

The boomkin one is simply overpowered. 12% crit chance for 8 people in your raid? Is blizzard fucking insane? This will literally make it required to have at least 2 boomkins in every raid group so you have nearly whole raid with 12% extra crit chance. That is insane.

[Wildpantz]

Coool idea however massive difference in power between specs some are 0dps and very sitiounrional while some like boomy is huge dps and useful anytime.

[Niroshi]

I'd imagine they're going to swap these in a few builds if the essence sticks around. Silly to give some classes crazy buffs and then Hunters 99% DR on Feign Death.