Mega-Thread: Trump Focused Discussion

[Dontrike]

but this leads nowhere at all.

Just like the Trump presidency.

[Bodakane]

This is a good illustration of how crazy most of the political talk has become. Few are arguing something sane, most are yelling myopic idiocies because "the other side" supposedly also said or did something stupid. I mean, you are free to do that, but this leads nowhere at all.

Not only did you completely miss the point of what the poster was saying, but everything you said is wrong.

There is nothing rational or sane about the current administration's approach to anything. The right in this country at this point of time as demonstrably gone off the deep end. This isn't two sides fo the same coin anymore. It is not left Twix vs right Twix. Trump, his team and his followers are new and dangerous levels.

I am sick to death of people acting like this is just Reagan versus Carter. The American right has become extreme. People like you, pretending this is just "he said she said same old same old", are almost always on the right and have chosen your path of argument as one where you pretend you're neutral. It is a common tactic form members of the side that is extreme as it helps lessen how extreme it actually is.

[rda]

Not only did you completely miss the point of what the poster was saying, but everything you said is wrong.

There is nothing rational or sane about the current administration's approach to anything. The right in this country at this point of time as demonstrably gone off the deep end. This isn't two sides fo the same coin anymore. It is not left Twix vs right Twix. Trump, his team and his followers are new and dangerous levels.

I am sick to death of people acting like this is just Reagan versus Carter. The American right has become extreme. People like you, pretending this is just "he said she said same old same old", are almost always on the right and have chosen your path of argument as one where you pretend you're neutral. It is a common tactic form members of the side that is extreme as it helps lessen how extreme it actually is.

Let me remind you that we are talking about subsidies to farmers. All this hot air and because of that? You are sick to death, I get it, and I would suggest that you are that way because you have an unhealthy obsession.

[Dontrike]

Let me remind you that we are talking about subsidies to farmers.

Subsidies? Oh you mean the socialis....er apology money because Trump fucked up hardcore.

[rda]

Socialism is ok*!

*when it helps me or anyone that can help me, especially in re-election.

It isn't. I mean, I get that you are trying to say that I support subsidies to farmers that Trump just did, but I don't, I said nothing like that, my point was something entirely different. But fighting windmills is so great. :-)

[rda]

I was talking about Trump specifically, not you Trump is against socialism, unless it benefits him in any way.

OK. Apologies then, I misread it.

[Bodakane]

Let me remind you that we are talking about subsidies to farmers. All this hot air and because of that? You are sick to death, I get it, and I would suggest that you are that way because you have an unhealthy obsession.

Yeah, no.

Your post, that I quoted had fuck all to do with subsidies. You were making a general bullshit observation about the sides.

No need to lie.

[Paranoid Android]

This is a good illustration of how crazy most of the political talk has become. Few are arguing something sane, most are yelling myopic idiocies because "the other side" supposedly also said or did something stupid. I mean, you are free to do that, but this leads nowhere at all.

Reading some of your posts and how condescending you are to other posters, you obviously didn't get my post.

Hmm? Should I explain it to you or not? I made my decision.

[Edge-]

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/24/trum...ansgender.html

In the same week Trump is trying to profit off "the gays" by selling "LGBT for Trump" shirts, his administration is trying to roll back healthcare protections for transgender folks, leaving them vulnerable to being discriminated against by care providers.

This administration hates the LGBT community, based purely off of their policy shifts regarding that community.

[kaelleria]

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/24/trum...ansgender.html

In the same week Trump is trying to profit off "the gays" by selling "LGBT for Trump" shirts, his administration is trying to roll back healthcare protections for transgender folks, leaving them vulnerable to being discriminated against by care providers.

This administration hates the LGBT community, based purely off of their policy shifts regarding that community.

He's also going to start letting adoption agencies deny same sex couples -
https://www.axios.com/trump-lgbtq-ad...79e904933.html

What an asshole. I'm sure he is just letting Pence do whatever he wants when it comes to this policy.

[Edge-]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.5fda43305fd8

The two Mexican line cooks noticed nothing remarkable about the opening of the 2019 season at President Trump’s golf club in Colts Neck, N.J.

Juan Espinoza and Abelardo Montes filled out the same forms and presented the same fake identification cards to their superiors as they had done for the past seven years, they said.

They showed up to cook, spent one week on the job, and then were summoned to a manager’s office early one Saturday morning in April. Their documents were invalid, they were told. They could punch out and leave the premises.

“They said a new rule had started called E-Verify,” Montes said. “That was the reason they fired us.”

The firings show that Trump’s company has followed through on its promise this year to start using the government’s online system for checking a new hire’s eligibility to work in the United States — a pledge it made in response to revelations that the company relied on undocumented labor.

The dismissals also show that the Trump Organizaton’s adoption of E-Verify has led to further shedding of workers, after the company had already purged about 20 undocumented workers this year. All 12 of Trump’s U.S. golf courses are now enrolled in the program, according to the government’s online database of E-Verify users; in December, only three were enrolled.

So Donald "America First" Trump has been regularly employing illegal immigrants at his properties because he didn't bother with e-verify. They're only now getting around to this, 3 years into his presidency and likely after decades of employing illegal labor.

Why does Trump want to take away jobs from Americans and give them to illegal immigrants?

[Shalcker]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.5fda43305fd8

So Donald "America First" Trump has been regularly employing illegal immigrants at his properties because he didn't bother with e-verify. They're only now getting around to this, 3 years into his presidency and likely after decades of employing illegal labor.

Why does Trump want to take away jobs from Americans and give them to illegal immigrants?

New Jersey has no law mandating E-Verify use.

Clearly Trump is making principled sacrifice of lower labour costs to promote his America-First agenda by voluntarily using E-Verify on his premises.

[Edge-]

New Jersey has no law mandating E-Verify use.

Clearly Trump is making principled sacrifice of lower labour costs to promote his America-First agenda by voluntarily using E-Verify on his premises.

He has properties outside of NJ that wen't using it either. And he could have still chosen to use it even without a law mandating it.

But of course that's not the point you're trying to make. Which doesn't seem to be any point at all beyond trying to start a pointless argument over a non-issue/point.

[Shalcker]

He has properties outside of NJ that wen't using it either. And he could have still chosen to use it even without a law mandating it.

Which is exactly what the article is saying he did.

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The labour costs are unchanged. It's the cost of hiring that has changed.

E-Verify affects cost of hiring line cook in NJ? Is there some hiring fee/tax or what?

[Edge-]

Which is exactly what the article is saying he did.

How many years after, "AMERICA FIRST" and his railing against companies hiring illegal immigrants, again?

[Shalcker]

E-Verify costs money. That affects the cost of hiring.

Hmm, how much? Where?

I went for quick google search and every cost estimate seems to go "using system is free, but your time reading documents and setting it up is going to be worth at least this much"...

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How many years after, "AMERICA FIRST" and his railing against companies hiring illegal immigrants, again?

Well, Trump finally following his promises? Must be pre-election season.

[SirBeef]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.5fda43305fd8



So Donald "America First" Trump has been regularly employing illegal immigrants at his properties because he didn't bother with e-verify. They're only now getting around to this, 3 years into his presidency and likely after decades of employing illegal labor.

Why does Trump want to take away jobs from Americans and give them to illegal immigrants?

He married an illegal. Used chain migration to bring his illegal wife's parents over. Of course he wants to crack down. He's a typical I got mine fuck you conservative.

[Zan15]

If it is 28 billion and there is only an estimated 140.9 million tax payers, wouldn't that mean that each tax payer will have paid about $199 total in welfare to over this?

knowing republicans and trump, they will try to cut food stamps.
Better to save farmers profit instead of helping people eat!!!!

Wonder when I get my bailout.....

[Edge-]

https://mobile.twitter.com/SykesChar...62850828857344

Seb Gorka doing his best Seb Gorka impression. Sadly the comedy is unintentional.

Is he standing in the doorway to his bathroom, in the middle of the night, in a dark house, in his nighttime shirt?

Because that kinda undermines the whole seriousness behind the "THE KRACKEN HAS BEEN UNLEASHED" in his...uh...speech?

[Edge-]

The Kraken is unleashed, the hyenas will now eat each other. Mark my words, Q knows all. /s

I will say this for him: At least he thinks all the Q nonsense is just as nonsense as the rest of us.

But that's probably the only positive thing I may ever say about him.

It’s a very weird parody of himself. To the point I thought it was James Adomian doing his impession.

Poe's Law has hit real life.