Twitch - Should Classic and BFA be separated?

[ro9ue]

I think it would be interesting to see Classic and BFA separated into different categories. The current Twitch WoW title card does specifically say BFA, but not exactly accurate.

[Big Thanks]

This was discussed endlessly at the time

Its better for Blizzard if they are put together was the conclusion

[Very Tired]

Yeah, if I'm looking for a bunch of mythic+ streamers, I don't want to wade through a maze of classic streams. Same goes if things were the other way around. Besides, Runescape and Old School Runescape separates them.

[Edison]

I'd like to see them seperated yeah

[WowClassic]

Yeah, if I'm looking for a bunch of mythic+ streamers, I don't want to wade through a maze of classic streams. Same goes if things were the other way around. Besides, Runescape and Old School Runescape separates them.

It shouldn't be a problem, because according to the Einsteins on here Classic will be all but dead after a month or two.

[Monster Hunter]

It shouldn't be a problem, because according to the Einsteins on here Classic will be all but dead after a month or two.

its already dying down, latest classic vids on youtube that pop up have gone from 150k ish views to 50k which is less than the space engineer vids i watch. on twitch its down to 4th under "just chatting"

all the hallmarks of a fad.

[Nzx]

its already dying down, latest classic vids on youtube that pop up have gone from 150k ish views to 50k which is less than the space engineer vids i watch. on twitch its down to 4th under "just chatting"

all the hallmarks of a fad.

Careful with that attitude around here, friend. Classic is the only thing on the entire planet that is keeping Blizzard going and the moment it releases the retail game will be taken offline forever because Classic is the best game ever released.

Or something like that. Anything that means Classic is better than retail because then all the people who post here that are literally garbage at the game get to use the excuse that they "just don't even care" about retail, which is why they're stuck doing +3's out of time.

[Gatto]

. Classic is the only thing on the entire planet that is keeping Blizzard going and the moment it releases the retail game will be taken offline forever because Classic is the best game ever released.

lol

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[Raven]

It shouldn't be a problem, because according to the Einsteins on here Classic will be all but dead after a month or two.

Or we can pretend that how many views a game has on Twitch says anything about it, since a big part of people on Twitch watch for the streamer and not the game they play.

[Monster Hunter]

Careful with that attitude around here, friend. Classic is the only thing on the entire planet that is keeping Blizzard going and the moment it releases the retail game will be taken offline forever because Classic is the best game ever released.

Or something like that. Anything that means Classic is better than retail because then all the people who post here that are literally garbage at the game get to use the excuse that they "just don't even care" about retail, which is why they're stuck doing +3's out of time.

hay at least they cant kill my keys when there playing a relic version of the game where the hardest thing was walking to the instance haha

tbh i like it when they talk about "the classic experience" as if it was like skyrim or something like that.........it was 90% auto attacking and auto running whilst fapping to porno and getting fat.

remember not to shower for weeks kids if you want that truuu clazzix xpureiance !!!!

[Nzx]

Or we can pretend that how many views a game has on Twitch says anything about it, since a big part of people on Twitch watch for the streamer and not the game they play.

It is absolutely incredible to me that one hundred thousand people tuned in to watch epic Classic content from Asmongold, who lives like this:



It's wild when you think that the people on these forums with tens of thousands of posts are probably even worse.

hay at least they cant kill my keys when there playing a relic version of the game where the hardest thing was walking to the instance haha

tbh i like it when they talk about "the classic experience" as if it was like skyrim or something like that.........it was 90% auto attacking and auto running whilst fapping to porno and getting fat.

rdember not to shower for weeks kids if you want that truuu clazzix xpureiance !!!!

Hahaha yep. I actually played the Beta to make sure I wasn't mis-remembering how easy it was - nope, literally the equivalent of mobile clicker games in terms of engagement. You move to the next mob, right click, wait, move to the next mob, right click, wait. The endgame isn't much better since most class "rotations" are spamming frostbolt or shadow bolt over and over and over until the boss dies. Even all the "complexity" people talk about for healers with downranking spells etc basically boils down to using rank 2 or 3 of one spell as filler between casts of the max rank one. It's a joke and I honestly can't wait for it to launch so that all of these people drop out of retail and stop making shit threads like "raider io should be banned" for good haha.

[Monster Hunter]

It is absolutely incredible to me that one hundred thousand people tuned in to watch epic Classic content from Asmongold, who lives like this:



It's wild when you think that the people on these forums with tens of thousands of posts are probably even worse.

but thats the true classic experience!!!! literally spending 90% of you're time grinding so you can spend a few hrs raiding whilst neglecting basic human needs like washing.

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It is absolutely incredible to me that one hundred thousand people tuned in to watch epic Classic content from Asmongold, who lives like this:



It's wild when you think that the people on these forums with tens of thousands of posts are probably even worse.



Hahaha yep. I actually played the Beta to make sure I wasn't mis-remembering how easy it was - nope, literally the equivalent of mobile clicker games in terms of engagement. You move to the next mob, right click, wait, move to the next mob, right click, wait. The endgame isn't much better since most class "rotations" are spamming frostbolt or shadow bolt over and over and over until the boss dies. Even all the "complexity" people talk about for healers with downranking spells etc basically boils down to using rank 2 or 3 of one spell as filler between casts of the max rank one. It's a joke and I honestly can't wait for it to launch so that all of these people drop out of retail and stop making shit threads like "raider io should be banned" for good haha.

its crazy, the say shit like "classic was so much harder and complex"............. bro hunters had there rotation in a macro bound to scroll wheel............ i think my sig sums it up.

[Nozuka]

Or we can pretend that how many views a game has on Twitch says anything about it, since a big part of people on Twitch watch for the streamer and not the game they play.

Those streamers are gaining alot of viewers because of the Classic Beta though.


Here is a statistic of the viewers. I made sure to include 24. April 2018, which is when the BFA Beta started... or 14. August 2018, which is BFA release month.

[THEORACLE64]

It is absolutely incredible to me that one hundred thousand people tuned in to watch epic Classic content from Asmongold, who lives like this:



It's wild when you think that the people on these forums with tens of thousands of posts are probably even worse.



Hahaha yep. I actually played the Beta to make sure I wasn't mis-remembering how easy it was - nope, literally the equivalent of mobile clicker games in terms of engagement. You move to the next mob, right click, wait, move to the next mob, right click, wait. The endgame isn't much better since most class "rotations" are spamming frostbolt or shadow bolt over and over and over until the boss dies. Even all the "complexity" people talk about for healers with downranking spells etc basically boils down to using rank 2 or 3 of one spell as filler between casts of the max rank one. It's a joke and I honestly can't wait for it to launch so that all of these people drop out of retail and stop making shit threads like "raider io should be banned" for good haha.

what the fuck is that rats nest.

[Nnyco]

Geez, you would think with that much money he could atleast hire someone to clean his house, he should rename himself to asmessygold.
The worst part is that he is probably proud of it too.

[Volitar]

Yeah, they are essentially different games and it's only going to be frustrating when you only want to watch one version of the game. Maybe they should create like subsections or something idk.

I'm betting they won't tho because twitch is garbage.

[Nzx]

Those streamers are gaining alot of viewers because of the Classic Beta though.


Here is a statistic of the viewers. I made sure to include 24. April 2018, which is when the BFA Beta started... or 14. August 2018, which is BFA release month.

I'm not sure why people think this is wildly out of the ordinary. The viewership stats you've linked for the timeframe relating to Classic Beta don't exclude the standard views for BFA, so they aren't really reflective specifically of interest in Classic. Regardless, the annoucement of Classic spikes interest from anyone who quit WoW over the last 15 years and thought "hey, maybe that would be interesting". The true measure of Classic's success is whether it can actually retain any of those people, and I really don't think it will. If people quit WoW and have stayed away, the last thing they're going to want to do 15 years later is go back to the "second life" style of game design that existed for MMO's back then.

[Kolvarg]

tbh i like it when they talk about "the classic experience" as if it was like Skyrim or something like that.........it was 90% auto attacking and auto running!

It's not like Skyrim's combat/gameplay is particularly hard or engaging either =P

If you like the current game then go use your time playing it, instead of wasting it talking shit about a game you don't like. You shouldn't need validation from others that the game you like is good, or that it's potential competitor(s) are bad, to be able to enjoy it. It's ok to not like things, just don't be a dick about it

[Monster Hunter]

Those streamers are gaining alot of viewers because of the Classic Beta though.


Here is a statistic of the viewers. I made sure to include 24. April 2018, which is when the BFA Beta started... or 14. August 2018, which is BFA release month.

because theres nothing else on, its the dead part of the year and even now out side wow fansites no one cares, there hasn't even been a kotaku shit post about classics lack of non binary diversity or some shit.

call again when it competing with the new doom, cyberpunk, new darkest dungeons, gears 5, e.t.c which is what it will be competing against when it releases.

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It's not like Skyrim's combat/gameplay is particularly hard or engaging either =P

If you like the current game then go use your time playing it, instead of wasting it talking shit about a game you don't like. You shouldn't need validation from others that the game you like is good, or that it's potential competitor(s) are bad, to be able to enjoy it. It's ok to not like things, just don't be a dick about it

im not the one making endless threads about how vanilla wow is gonna have 60 bzillion subs and dominate the world. im just gettin in b4 the flop so i can say told you so.

skyrim had more story than collect 20 boar tusks.

if you cant take shit dont dish it.

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Geez, you would think with that much money he could atleast hire someone to clean his house, he should rename himself to asmessygold.
The worst part is that he is probably proud of it too.

i like the unopened "get together with friends" box, its poetic.

[Sting]

Yeah, they are essentially different games and it's only going to be frustrating when you only want to watch one version of the game. Maybe they should create like subsections or something idk.

I'm betting they won't tho because twitch is garbage.

Twitch already has subsections / filters for a lot of games.