I'd agree, they were definitely there, especially for guilds who struggled to get 40 bodies on raid night. You can see from tier gear (T1/T2/T3) however, that Blizzard intended for all non-warrior hybrids to heal in raids, and warrior bonus' were protection. Hybrids only see damage related set bonus' in between raids, ZG/AQ. You can look at Druid and Shaman gear for example, and there's no AGI on any of the Tier sets. They have to use dungeon sets, ZG/AQ sets, or PVP gear if they want to go melee DPS. And even then they typically have a match of AGI and Intel on their gear, which leads to some of the loss in potential damage output.
As I noted in one of my previous posts, I knew a druid in a guild that had AQ 40 on farm and had started into Naxx, who healed in balance spec, with intel/agi gear, and they were excited about the high armor count on a new item. I'm not saying this person was a typical raider in Naxx60, I'm just saying they were a raider in Naxx60.
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Also, I know I wrote “hybrid” in the OP, but I meant “non-optimal spec.” I just didn’t want the thread derailed with ret fanboiz on page 1.
Raid bosses will always be very similar so long as encounter design requires DPS to always be pumping 100%.
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just like you will see 0 hybrids in MC.
its sad that people belive in myth how hybrids will be welcome anywhere
you will see that non-bis classes wont be invited even to dungeons.
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it doesnt matter if they are hard.
if a guild can cut raiding time by 30-40% they will do it. because then they can clear extra raid on alts for example.
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hey its a good thing they will level up so many healers
many guilds will be happy when they will have couple of holy paladins ;0
because only other choice for those people would be to reroll not not garbage class/spec
I'd probably say about 6
That depends entirely on 1) how the good the players are 2) how much consumes is everyone willing to use 3) can you get enough players that fit the requirements for your guild without breaking the quota. I would take 0 if I had that option because my goal is pretty simple - speedruns all raids, and as a result do them as fast a possible to free up the time to do other activities.
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Warlock dps is probably the best caster dps in dungeons due to lifetap. Mages are still more desirable, but not because of dps.
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a month?!?!?!?! well.. however many we have i guess.
If i however competed for a rank and wanted to clear naxx the first day of release id probably only bring as many as i absolutely need for any given fight.
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Correct but not the whole answer. The biggest problem was in actuallity a combination of Lag or awfull internet connections in general and masses of players with low fps. I remember raiding mc with 10 to 15 frames at best before upgrading my system. You could get throu in MC and BWL with such low fps values but AQ 40 and Naxx changed that. You could run absolutely perfect ony your screen on Heigan, low fps or a high ping would kill you. Now imagine playing Thaddius with 15 frames. A lot of Raids even made a "pingcheck" before pullling such bosses and had several players stand on the pillars in the middle of the room on Loatheb to make sure they could play the fight.Heck, lag was a bigger issue than the actual mechanics back then.
I had a look at vanilla recordings available, and they were actually incredibly subpar. I guess only shadow priests will really make it to the exception list unless the guild in question likes a certain player enough to allow them to play their hybrid spec in some situations.