God Bless President Trump & the Queen of England.

[cubby]

I'm just saying that if he was as racist as you people are saying, he would refuse the minority vote. He hasn't refused the minority vote. There are still plenty of minority republicans.

So you really think racist people/politicians don't want the vote from the people they discriminate against? Are you really that naive? Have you ever heard of anyone "refusing" a vote for them in an election?

Racism isn't about what you think it's about. It isn't cut and dried.

[NED funded]

The tears of Europeans bitching about Trump sustains me through this terrible day

[exochaft]

Which was one hundred fifty fucking years ago.

For the love of god, stop pretending that the activities of southern democrats in the 1860s has any bearing on modern democrats in the 2010s.

The problem is that what's driving current politics on the Democrats, such as Progressivism, Socialism, etc., has historical root leading back to the late 1800's. It was actually imported from Europe at the time, more specifically academics from universities in places like Germany and Austria, and the movement tried to gain momentum. The Progressive mentality showed up in Presidents like Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson, showing that eventually Progressivism tried to latch onto both Republicans and Democrats eventually. As history shows, it latched onto both, but is much embraced much more by Democrats. It latched onto Europe pretty hard, as well, as Progressivism/Socialism/etc. spawned from academics in their universities, and got embraced by places such as Germany in the 1900's.

Wilson in the early 1900's was a particularly despicable character in the Democrat party, as he was openly racist/anti-Semitic and a white supremacist, he embraced Jim Crow laws and made segregation the official position of the federal government, among a ton of other things. What's more interesting is that people like Wilson tried to play themselves off as the savior of women and black people, even referred to as "the second Lincoln" while running for office, yet his policies did everything but help non-white males while constantly attempted to deceive those he hurt to maintain votes. I doubt anyone here would condone such activity, but he is still heralded as a Progressive icon to emulate in today's Democrat party. Going from memory here, but I think there's currently a few Democrats currently running for president who say they Woodrow Wilson is a hero/idol/role model.

Now there's much more to go over, but I'll boil it down to simply what happens and repeats even within a century of politics. Progressivism was imported into the US in the early 1800's, but it never disappeared and actually grew over time. However, every time it has reared its ugly face in the Democrat party, people eventually recognize how terrible it is once the veil is removed, then the Republicans take over. The trick is during this downtime, the whitewashing of the history of Progressivism and the Democrat party begins, and while older people may remember the horrors associated with Progressivism, young people are very gullible and probably think it's a new thing (despite it being over a century old). This is not by accident, this is by design, as it allows a slow erosion of society over time as no one would except the consequences and result of such policies unless conditioned to accept it. There's even documents found in the US archives concerning the Communists had planned to overtake the US, and it lines up pretty much exactly with how movements like Progressivism try to force their way into power. The big one is to infiltrate the schools and universities to sow the seeds in the younger generations, although I can provide the full list at some point as it's pretty stark when it comes to how much actually has come to fruition. The main goal is to turn people from individuals into balkanized groups of ignorant people, as they're much easier to control.

I want to throw in the huge caveat here before people start raging (although I know a bunch will anyways): this does NOT necessarily mean your average citizen who identifies as a Democrat is actually as bad as the politicians. However, it's a result of conditioning and whitewashing of history that makes them ignorant to the truth of the matter. For some, it's willful ignorance as it's very easy to find non-whitewashed history if you do some digging, but your average citizen who doesn't (and shouldn't have to) care about politics 24/7 probably won't do any digging. It's akin to some recent surveys where they polled Democrats if they want socialism, and a large majority said yes... but when you broke it down into the socialist policies espoused by politicians, an even larger majority of Democrats said they didn't want those policies. Simply, as with many things in politics, people are sold a nice and pretty surface, but beneath the surface is ugly and dangerous that no one wants. Progressivism and Socialism sound nice on the surface, but in reality they are anything but nice and quite dangerous to individuals, especially when you must surrender your rights to the government.


Anyways, as to not completely derail the thread, God bless Trump and the royal family!

[Zan15]

I'm just waiting for the next hoax they'll try to push against Trump....like he's an alien or something. He'll crash economy was fake, he's hitler/racist was fake, he'll nuke everyone was fake.... hmmmm

Soon they will claim he is Muslim, not born in this country, a traitor trying to convert everyone, fake birth certificate and running a child ring under a pizza shop. Or maybe that his wife is really a man...he is a lizard....globalist white person hating evil dictator who's building FEMA camps to halt the 2016 elections.....

[Machismo]

Obama was elected on racism. 95% of black people voted for him, many came out just to vote for a black man, that's the definition of racism. Tina of guilty whites also voted for him due to skin color. Most racist election in our history.

Plenty of people who voted for Obama were racists, as were plenty who refused to vote for him.

Of course, Obama was not the cause of the birther movement, that's people like Trump who pushed it for more than five years.

So, unless you want to point to the birthers, all you are doing, is pointing out your own racism, which you already do all the time.

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Do you have any facts to back up your claim that he is racist?

Oh and you liberal bias is showing once again.

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Apparently you missed the "grab em by the pussy" comment that got the liberals panties in a bunch.

Yes, I already provided the sources in the thread, you are welcome.

Of course, I'm still waiting on your sources from months ago. It's amazing that you still haven't managed to find a source for your claims, so sad.

It's also odd that a guy who refuses to provide sources when asked to back up his claims, wants to ask others to do the same. Proving once again... you are a complete hypocrite.

[Machismo]

Thank you for supporting our great President. He's done a great job putting America first these past few years. The Democrats right now are so out of touch and anti-American, it's sickening to watch all the shit they try to do.

OP, I have more respect for you than most of these Americans talking shit on one of the best, if not best, American President's this country has ever had.

It's a shame all you Trumpsters are so supportive of excessive government spending, higher deficits, increasing the debt, raising taxes, and fighting against capitalism.

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You haven't provided any evidence that proves he is a racist though. How sad for you.

But, I did, enjoy those sources. They were linked in this thread.

You have yet to provide any evidence that I'm a liberal, and not a libertarian.

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I'm just saying that if he was as racist as you people are saying, he would refuse the minority vote. He hasn't refused the minority vote. There are still plenty of minority republicans.

That's an ignorant comment.

Care to back it up with evidence that he would refuse their vote?

[Monster Hunter]

Glad you can admit you were wrong.

except i didn't. don't even try to put words in my mouth, your not as smart as you think.

[Machismo]

Yeah loved your opinion pieces. None of them prove that Trump is a racist.

Nice try though. How about some legitimate proof? Oh yeah, you have none.

So, you still have no evidence to back up your claims?

I find it odd that you managed to read four full stories that you claimed didn't exist in two minutes.

It's almost as if you are being disingenuous, again.

Enjoy those sources I provided. Oh, and another poster also provided more.

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Everyone makes mistakes.

Like when he refused to rent to black people?

[Zan15]

Obama was elected on racism. 95% of black people voted for him, many came out just to vote for a black man, that's the definition of racism. Tina of guilty whites also voted for him due to skin color. Most racist election in our history.

Lol 95 up from the 89% that voted for the white canadate in 2004

Clinton was 88%.

Obama was 93% and 91%.

So how were they racist when they voted for a black dude at almost the same rate as white man and white woman.

Care to show me where white people ever came close to 80% in support of a black canadate...don't worry I'll wait....

[Machismo]

I never claimed they didn't exist. Please don't put words in my mouth. I asked for sources that proved he was racist. The garbage you linked does not do that.

The burden of proof is on you. Keep digging though!

Great, then you can enjoy those sources I cited. Let me know if you can refute them.

I've been waiting nine months for you to provide a source to back up your claims against me, why are you so bad at this?

[Machismo]

Sorry, your articles come up well short of any proof that he is racist.

Keep trying!

Since you refuse to even discuss those articles, it seems apparent that you didn't even read them. let me know exactly what was incorrect, and what you would like to discuss.

Still waiting on that evidence of yours about me being a liberal, and not a libertarian.

[Captain N]

Like when he refused to rent to black people?

Or still wanted The Central Park Five punished even after they were found to be not guilty?

[Machismo]

Machismo only believes what he hears on CNN rather than research his own facts. The fact is that Trump has more support from African Americans than any Republican President in History. If he hated African Americans he wouldnt have done prison reform that the previous 7 presidents refused to do (and I disagreed with). Also restricting illegal immigration doesnt mean he hates people.

I provided facts and articles. You were proven objectively wrong in this very thread, and refused to admit it.

Please show where I linked CNN, I'll wait.

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Or still wanted The Central Park Five punished even after they were found to be not guilty?

Yes, that was also a good one.

[Adam Jensen]

It's hilarious watching all the Faux News viewers bitch about CNN.

Pot, kettle.

[Machismo]

Calling a place a "shithole" does not make you a racist. Detroit is a shithole, it doesn't make me racist or anyone else for saying so.

We have proof that illegals have crossed the border and committed acts of rape, violence/murder, drug smuggling, etc. Would you consider those people "their best"?

Banning people from entering our country until a system is in place to better secure our country is also not racist, not even in the slightest.

So again, your articles are just liberal trash. I know it must sting to be called out on your left-leaning ways when you try so hard to tell people you are a libertarian.

So sad for you!

Ahh, it's a shame you are so intent on defending racism and bigotry. Trump called for a complete ban on Muslims entering the country. he didn't call for a ban on everyone, or even from specific countries... just Muslims. You sure do love defending that bullshit.

So, how am I not a libertarian? I mean, it's clear you can't even cite a single quote... but maybe you know of a political stance I have taken that's not libertarian. I wish you luck, you clearly need it. Seriously, you have had over nine months, and cannot come up with a single fucking thing. How does it feel to be wrong in such a major way?

[roboscorcher]

I'm honestly surprised at how little they found.

What makes you think that?

No politicians at that level are clean, none.

No human is 100% perfect, but Trump and his goons would be lucky to pass 10%. No one is asking for perfection, but if you're going to pretend that committing crimes is normal for leadership, you're wrong.

For 2 years they investigated and that is all they came up with...someone being falsely accused trying to defend them self from it..... wow!

Wait, which guy was falsely accused? Was it Flynn, Manafort, Cohen or Stone?

[Monster Hunter]

You did by discussing how we live in a democracy. Thanks for playing.

a republic that uses representative democracy. if you don't understand how thats different from a democracy i suggest you don't engage in politics as your not smart enough to meet the scientific right to hold an opinion in any discussion or debate.

[Draco-Onis]

SNIP

Fact: Donald Trump made his name in the republican party as a birther, a deeply racist conspiracy theory that Obama was born in Kenya.

[Adam Jensen]

I'm honestly surprised at how little they found. No politicians at that level are clean, none. For 2 years they investigated and that is all they came up with...someone being falsely accused trying to defend them self from it..... wow!

Even if you're falsely accused of a crime, you can't defend yourself through obstruction of justice. OoJ is still illegal, regardless of your innocent of the crime the investigation alleges or not.

[Cruor]

Well consider it payback for getting that treatment from Republicans for 8 years under Obama.

That's like comparing the Hiroshima nuke to the Czar Bomb nuke. Same concept but one is thousands of times bigger. Liberals are going way more berserk.

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Lol 95 up from the 89% that voted for the white canadate in 2004

Clinton was 88%.

Obama was 93% and 91%.

So how were they racist when they voted for a black dude at almost the same rate as white man and white woman.

Care to show me where white people ever came close to 80% in support of a black canadate...don't worry I'll wait....

I clearly said in my post that in addition to getting 95% of the black vote many came out just to vote for a black man. Many openly said it. If a black person votes for a black president its "empowering" or some dumb thing. If a white person votes for a white guy because he's white its racist.