Wtf many 3 and 4 day guilds have been done with M CoS for weeks now and many more weeks to come.
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The entire point of the encounter was to figure out how to maximize the uptime of the damage buff. It's not a "bug" or "cheese", it's designed to be played around.
AOTC CoS was much easier than TOV imo, but BUT CE is on a whole different level
Kind of feel bad for people who ALWAYS get CE not being able to get it this time
Maybe Blizz will change it to be like TOV where you could get AOTC after the next raid came out because it was so overtunes+wasn't given enough time before the next tier came out. Plus not to mention the time of year, and the gear it gives is... wellllllllll haha not so hot
All of them are strictly 3 day? No extra hours for CoS? Im not sure id believe a majority of the top 50 or so is 3 day. Unless they raid longer than 3 hours a night, I guess I should’ve specified that. When I said 3 day I meant your typical 3 day 9 hour, I know a lot do 3 day 12 hours. I’ll restate what I meant: I don’t think there’s many if any 9 hour guilds in that 85. I know quite a few good guilds that are 9 hr and not done with Uunat yet. Regardless I should’ve specified that, my b.
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You realize that trinket can go off 2-3x in the opener, delaying your opener, causing you to miss glare on a UA or PS, right?
That isn't even getting into fights like stormwall, p1 jaina, or any other fight with multiple targets around you which causes the balls to fly from all over the place.
I am having my doubts you're playing with the trinket "just fine" because I also tried to play with it, and had to take it off after realizing it was hurting my parses sometimes based on the movement in the opener alone.
Even when I didn't get silenced it just felt bad. There's a reason you don't really see that trinket on the top parses.
I'm honestly a bit confused on how to respond to this.
Like... Yes, I use the trinket.
obviously I know it can proc during the opener.
It's also not THAT common for it to proc that fast, and on top of that if you place yourself right you can outrange the first few procs as the tank repositions.
I'd deal with a trinket that screws up my own misplays than the opu trinket which relies on others not screwing you up, or becomes literally useless during stack phases.
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That's exactly what I thought. I'm also confused as to how one "chases parses" as an aff warlock. You just get them if you play the spec correctly.
I've never had to put any "effort" into it really. Outside of like very specific fights (mythic jaina, leaving the water ele alive for example.)
The reason your comment was weird is that people here are discussing these items from a competitive point of view. The trinket is strong, it's still not good enough to justify running mythic CoS, which is the point.
The argument was never that the items are completely unusable, just not that good. You coming here and trying to explain how the trinket is totally fine or whatever, just doesn't make sense.
That trinket screws you over at a high enough rate to where you should probably avoid using it. You might not see it screwing you over because you seemingly don't care about performance, but it's doing it.
People don't want to feel burdened after looting an item. And that's what the COS trinket is, a burden to play with.
Last edited by asil; 2019-06-08 at 11:29 PM.
I dont use that shit trinket even as fire. I dont care about rankings if im just going to get a headache and i have a 99 on grong and a 96 (used to be 100) on ramaladingdong
Player engagement with this raid appears to be disastrously low.
"There is a pervasive myth that making content hard will induce players to rise to the occasion. We find the opposite. " -- Ghostcrawler
"The bit about hardcore players not always caring about the long term interests of the game is spot on." -- Ghostcrawler
"Do you want a game with no casuals so about 500 players?"
It was claimed it's only good for fire mage, which is false.
If you're missing my point, that's on you and not me. You even said that the trinket is strong, but it's not the best.
That's... kinda my point. It's still worth using, but of course there's better.
Also that's not how parses work if you think you just "get them" by playing the class, since by that logic there would be no parses at all or any point to them, since all DPS would be equal if that's how it worked. Even if every warlock did 27-28k on a fight, congrats, doing 27.5k is now a 50th parse.
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