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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    The token gay guy, jew, black person doesn't change the nature of a group.

    Milo is either mentally ill or just a grifter, scamming for attention and an income. Same for the likes of Candice Owens and a massive extent Ben Shapiro.

    Even the daddy of Reich wing academics, Jordan Peterson. It's noteworthy that his fame as a public intelectual is exclusively rooted in one act of trolling trans people.

    Unlike other public intellectuals of the sort of Zizek, Chomsky, Harris (who let's be honest, is hugely "controversial" for the left, tho nobody actually questions his status or importance as an intellectual), Hitchens etc who have had a wide ranging set of of works, ideas, publications and contributions, Peterson has become known for one thing and one thing alone, sticking it to the libs.

    So yeah, my point is that Milo is an attention seeking grifter within a resurgent fascist movement within western politics, much akin to nearly every other token your kind likes to point at in your attempts to legitimize yourselves.

    I at least have some respect for the likes of Spencer and Bannon, they might be fascists, but they are at least relatively up front about it.
    all that's neat and cool, but you folks called him a nazis, and if his action equate to nazism than again, the comparison is apt.
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  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by caballitomalo View Post
    Yeah but.... who defines what being a nazi means and who decides who gets to be one.

    What if someone decides, based on their definition of nazi, that you are one and proceed to hand a digital neon sign on top of your head. Doesnt matter what you think or do, if under their ideology you are a nazi then thats it.

    This scenario is vey real. Just get yourself a single consevative position on any issue and tell that to a liberal. Disagreement, and just disagreement, with liberal doctrine is all it takes this days. Failure to complay is a clear sing, expressing why is hate speech.
    Well, whoever wants to. People have called me a Nazi in these very forums, and I'm still alive. If someone calls you a Nazi, have them back it up with evidence. If they cannot, then ignore them, and move on with your life.

    I am a conservative, so trying to play the victim card in the name of a conservative is not going to work on me. I know plenty of conservatives who aren't racist or fascist garbage. I know plenty of conservatives who are. I know plenty of liberals who are not Stalinists, and plenty who are.

    Here's hint, if a person is pushing authoritarian bullshit in order to keep out Muslims or brown people... probably not a good sign. If that person is spreading bullshit about white genocide... also a bad sign. If the person is an avowed white nationalist, who attends rallies like Charlottesville, or is a member of hate groups like the Proud Boys... also not a good start. If a person goes out of their way to defend or deflect for those people... that's also a great indication. If you think a private website should be forced to host those people against its will... see above.

  3. #23
    I dont think he will get the money but its start.

    How much do you think will MAGA kids get?

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    I'll wait til that happens. Until then, you can't make the comparison.
    Are people this blind or is it by choice? Makes you wonder...

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    The token gay guy, jew, black person doesn't change the nature of a group.

    Milo is either mentally ill or just a grifter, scamming for attention and an income. Same for the likes of Candice Owens and a massive extent Ben Shapiro.

    Even the daddy of Reich wing academics, Jordan Peterson. It's noteworthy that his fame as a public intelectual is exclusively rooted in one act of trolling trans people.

    Unlike other public intellectuals of the sort of Zizek, Chomsky, Harris (who let's be honest, is hugely "controversial" for the left, tho nobody actually questions his status or importance as an intellectual), Hitchens etc who have had a wide ranging set of of works, ideas, publications and contributions, Peterson has become known for one thing and one thing alone, sticking it to the libs.

    So yeah, my point is that Milo is an attention seeking grifter within a resurgent fascist movement within western politics, much akin to nearly every other token your kind likes to point at in your attempts to legitimize yourselves.

    I at least have some respect for the likes of Spencer and Bannon, they might be fascists, but they are at least relatively up front about it.

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    I still think punching Nazis is a patriotic duty of every self respecting person living in literally any country.

    We should take advantage of any and all opportunities to punch them.
    Nah, only punch people who seek to be violent themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saninicus View Post
    https://www.toledoblade.com/local/ed...es/20190613148

    Basically a bakery won a case for libel and defamation from a college.

    These sjws owe a bakery 42 million....yikes.
    Sometimes justice exists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    I would just like to point out that you are drawing equivalency between Nazis and people who advocate for social justice.
    When their methods and mentalities are the same, who cares about what they call themselves?
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  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Cizr View Post
    I dont think he will get the money but its start.

    How much do you think will MAGA kids get?
    Nothing, because here we have a made up Propaganda Story, published to smear somebody. The story did not turn out to be wrong, but was made up and written by that "News outlet".

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    The token gay guy, jew, black person doesn't change the nature of a group.

    Milo is either mentally ill or just a grifter, scamming for attention and an income. Same for the likes of Candice Owens and a massive extent Ben Shapiro.

    Even the daddy of Reich wing academics, Jordan Peterson. It's noteworthy that his fame as a public intelectual is exclusively rooted in one act of trolling trans people.

    Unlike other public intellectuals of the sort of Zizek, Chomsky, Harris (who let's be honest, is hugely "controversial" for the left, tho nobody actually questions his status or importance as an intellectual), Hitchens etc who have had a wide ranging set of of works, ideas, publications and contributions, Peterson has become known for one thing and one thing alone, sticking it to the libs.

    So yeah, my point is that Milo is an attention seeking grifter within a resurgent fascist movement within western politics, much akin to nearly every other token your kind likes to point at in your attempts to legitimize yourselves.

    I at least have some respect for the likes of Spencer and Bannon, they might be fascists, but they are at least relatively up front about it.

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    Oh boy you've gone real deep down the rabbit hole haven't you. You're right at the point where 'everybody that doesn't agree with me is a nazi, nazi sympatizer or nazi enabler'. Say hi to the people that think Israel is pulling all the globalists strings.

    These people who you claim as a part of your 'team' because of their arbitrary charactaristics don't agree with you so of course they're mentally ill or lying scumbags. They couldn't possibly just have a different opinion, no they're the WORST. You're calling Milo mentally ill lol, why don't you go ahead and call Owens a race traitor and Shapiro a nazi collaborator while you're at it.

    I still think punching Nazis is a patriotic duty of every self respecting person living in literally any country.
    We should take advantage of any and all opportunities to punch them.
    Yeah advocating for political violence has proven to be so benefical to the stability of the country. Sure, go ahead and punch a nazi when they start punching. But you think half the world consists of Nazis and their 'token' minorities so I can only hope you and the maniacs who think like you keep their vitriol off the streets.
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  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Malaky View Post
    Sometimes justice exists.

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    When their methods and mentalities are the same, who cares about what they call themselves?
    They aren't the same. There's a meaningful difference between fascists and anti fascists.

    Fascists hate you because who and what you are, gay, brown, woman, foreign or sane. You know, things you can't change about yourself. They will also use government to oppress and harm you if they are given power to do so. No exceptions.

    Anti-fascists hate you because you are a fascist. People aren't born fascists. Stop being one and they don't hate you anymore.

    Also anti fascists come in many political shapes and forms, from neo liberals, Christian socialists, to social democrats and even anarchists. It's a pretty broad spectrum.

    None of them would inherently use the power of the state to oppress and harm others. On the contrary they even permit the existence of batshit crazy moonbats like fascists as long as they don't present a threat to public safety, which fascists alway do if allowed to organize.

    So their tactics are not the same. By definition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cradyz View Post
    Oh boy you've gone real deep down the rabbit hole haven't you. You're right at the point where 'everybody that doesn't agree with me is a nazi, nazi sympatizer or nazi enabler'. Say hi to the people that think Israel is pulling all the globalists strings.

    These people who you claim as a part of your 'team' because of their arbitrary charactaristics don't agree with you so of course they're mentally ill or lying scumbags. They couldn't possibly just have a different opinion, no they're the WORST. You're calling Milo mentally ill lol, why don't you go ahead and call Owens a race traitor and Shapiro a nazi collaborator while you're at it.



    Yeah advocating for political violence has proven to be so benefical to the stability of the country. Sure, go ahead and punch a nazi when they start punching. But you think half the world consists of Nazis and their 'token' minorities so I can only hope you and the maniacs who think like you keep their vitriol off the streets.
    Candece Owens is a race traitor, (tho not in the sense fascists use the term, but in the sense that the things she does is actively harming her community) and Ben Shapiro is a Nazi collaborator in the sense that he probably unwittingly has done a lot to legitimize otherwise racist or anti Semitic discourse as public discourse.

    And I am giving the benefit of doubt to Milo when calling him mentally ill. Because the alternative is him being a petty grifter and morally bankrupt.

    Historically speaking the only cure to fascism has seemingly been political violence. There are some ideologies out there that simply cannot be reasoned with.

    Fascism. Theocracy. And yes even communism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Nah, only punch people who seek to be violent themselves.
    Fascists always seek to be violent. It's the ultimate goal. At the first opportunity to do harm, this usually comes when they accumulated sufficient political capital by otherwise non violent means, they will resort to violence.

    It's an inherent element of fascism. It's what fascists always do. The purpose is to reshape society according to their vision by the use of force.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Cradyz View Post
    Yeah advocating for political violence has proven to be so benefical to the stability of the country. Sure, go ahead and punch a nazi when they start punching. But you think half the world consists of Nazis and their 'token' minorities so I can only hope you and the maniacs who think like you keep their vitriol off the streets.
    Devil's advocate: Political violence and vandalism are literally the foundation of this country.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cizr View Post
    How much do you think will MAGA kids get?
    The biggest difference here is the media spent the next two weeks tripping over themselves with profuse public apologies. Did the Daily Stormer respond in a similar manner?

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Cradyz View Post
    Oh boy you've gone real deep down the rabbit hole haven't you. You're right at the point where 'everybody that doesn't agree with me is a nazi, nazi sympatizer or nazi enabler'. Say hi to the people that think Israel is pulling all the globalists strings.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    Candece Owens is a race traitor, (tho not in the sense fascists use the term, but in the sense that the things she does is actively harming her community) and Ben Shapiro is a Nazi collaborator in the sense that he probably unwittingly has done a lot to legitimize otherwise racist or anti Semitic discourse as public discourse.

    And I am giving the benefit of doubt to Milo when calling him mentally ill. Because the alternative is him being a petty grifter and morally bankrupt.
    YEP. WAY down that Rabbit hole

    On topic, this seems a crazy amount. Is this the normal kind of payout for libel cases in US? In UK they can potentially go up for 10s of thousands but not seen literal millions before. Was there a genuine reason it was so high as it's way beyond what any kind of damages should be? I'm sure everyone's happy that the judge is "punishing Nazis" but working the law to target people with extra punishment because of ideological beliefs is inherently wrong.
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  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    Anti-fascists hate you because you are disagreeing with them. People aren't born in agreement. Stop thinking and start agreeing and they don't hate you anymore.
    ......Yup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Don't punch Nazis, don't assault them in any way... unless they try to do the same to you first. If you want to deal with them, put a giant neon arrow above their head, pointing down at them. Don't hit them for what they say, make sure everyone knows what they said, make them own it.
    Wow first time I actually agree with something you say.
    Yeah don't punch/assault ANYONE. That is how you escalate a culture war that's already getting too close to a tipping point.
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  14. #34
    Yes, and lets do it against those communists and socialists too.

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    The token gay guy, jew, black person doesn't change the nature of a group.

    Milo is either mentally ill or just a grifter, scamming for attention and an income. Same for the likes of Candice Owens and a massive extent Ben Shapiro.

    Even the daddy of Reich wing academics, Jordan Peterson. It's noteworthy that his fame as a public intelectual is exclusively rooted in one act of trolling trans people.

    Unlike other public intellectuals of the sort of Zizek, Chomsky, Harris (who let's be honest, is hugely "controversial" for the left, tho nobody actually questions his status or importance as an intellectual), Hitchens etc who have had a wide ranging set of of works, ideas, publications and contributions, Peterson has become known for one thing and one thing alone, sticking it to the libs.

    So yeah, my point is that Milo is an attention seeking grifter within a resurgent fascist movement within western politics, much akin to nearly every other token your kind likes to point at in your attempts to legitimize yourselves.

    I at least have some respect for the likes of Spencer and Bannon, they might be fascists, but they are at least relatively up front about it.

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    I still think punching Nazis is a patriotic duty of every self respecting person living in literally any country.

    We should take advantage of any and all opportunities to punch them.
    That's an incredible amount of text just to say "Here's a list of people I disagree with, and all the made up bullshit I say about them to make myself feel better. PS: It's devoid of facts."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malaky View Post
    ......Yup.
    A straw-man edit, how quaint.

    Do you ever feel bad about the lies you tell?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEHPALLYTANK View Post
    A straw-man edit, how quaint.

    Do you ever feel bad about the lies you tell?
    Do the guys who see disagreement as fascism do?

    Because unlike them, I don't see people disagreeing with me as monsters. Which is very childish and unproductive.
    That alone makes me the better person, so I feel pretty good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buddhapunch09 View Post
    Wow first time I actually agree with something you say.
    Yeah don't punch/assault ANYONE. That is how you escalate a culture war that's already getting too close to a tipping point.
    Now if only we could get the Nazis to stop trying to legislate their authoritarian agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malaky View Post
    ......Yup.
    Being a fascist is not simply "disagreeing". Again, fascism is one of those things that cannot be permitted to exist in a functioning civilized society. It's literally antithetical to human life.

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