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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    Sorry, I lack empathy for people who think it's ok to violate international laws and recognized borders. I have more empathy for people who follow the rules and aren't just trying to get into major western nations by hopping over areas that are not recognized as ports of entry.
    Clearly the people watching your muricas borders lack respect for both law and life. Simply appalling.
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  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    But but but, open borders is the way of the future, it's what they taught in kindergarten, holding hands around the world!

    Apparently nothing else was taught to them between then and now.
    Ridicule it all you want, but I'd rather more idealists who see the world for what it could be rather than go "well, let's be realistic and settle".

  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    Ridicule it all you want, but I'd rather more idealists who see the world for what it could be rather than go "well, let's be realistic and settle".
    That didn't really work out for every communist country ever...

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    Sorry, I lack empathy for people who think it's ok to violate international laws and recognized borders. I have more empathy for people who follow the rules and aren't just trying to get into major western nations by hopping over areas that are not recognized as ports of entry.
    "major western nations" ...lol, the entitlement

  5. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by Has lost its way View Post
    That didn't really work out for every communist country ever...
    What's next, are we going to bring up Hitler?

    What does my statement in regards to "people should get along and not hate each other, and care less about stupid lines on a map" have to do with communism?

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    Sorry, I lack empathy for people who think it's ok to violate international laws and recognized borders. I have more empathy for people who follow the rules and aren't just trying to get into major western nations by hopping over areas that are not recognized as ports of entry.
    If people thought the way you do in regards to following "laws" even when people are in need and suffering then we would not be having this conversation let alone seeing the elimination of child labor, woman suffrage and civil rights movement. Most people in the U.S. would be living in poverty while the wealthy and powerful got their way all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salty Maud View Post
    Clearly the people watching your borders lack respect for both law and life. Simply appalling.
    It's a good thing then as a Canadian, our border services has some level of empathy, whereas the US border patrol services has a severe lack of empathy.

  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    What's next, are we going to bring up Hitler?

    What does my statement in regards to "people should get along and not hate each other, and care less about stupid lines on a map" have to do with communism?
    It isn't that is your notion of wanting more idealistic people over more pessimistic ones. Every time idealists take the reigns civilizations head to disaster. A country can never be based on charity beyond its own people.

    You wish to do the right thing and that isn't something to be ashamed of but that notion alone with cause more harm then even the worst of greed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrittenMitten View Post
    If people thought the way you do in regards to following "laws" even when people are in need and suffering then we would not be having this conversation let alone seeing the elimination of child labor, woman suffrage and civil rights movement. Most people in the U.S. would be living in poverty while the wealthy and powerful got their way all the time.
    You think that doesn't happen now? The rich get their way all the time, why do you think so many people struggle to make ends meet and are continually being pushed further into poverty? That is a problem that happens to everyone, not just ethnic minorities and women. Also, women have had a massive amount of freedom allowed for them over the last several decades. Ask women in India how they feel about arranged marriages and the rape culture that exists there. Ask women in Africa and the Middle East what experiencing FGM is like. Ask women in Iran and Saudi Arabia what it's like to be treated like second class citizens with no right to vote or even be seen in public without coverings on. The privilege of western women and minority groups is absolutely ridiculous these days, it's no longer the fault of "white men" if you can't succeed in life.

    But people like you have continued to fuel the class war thrust on us by the rich, rather than trying to mend fences you keep screaming at white men like me acting like I'm the cause of all your problems when I'm in the same fucking boat. We all are, we are all struggling, nothing is easy anymore. And all the while, you think your virtue signaling is going to help make our lives collectively better? You are dreaming and need to get off the internet and get a real world job. You'd find that the majority of people don't actually think like you, and that the reality check is no one cares about signaling virtue outside of your little bubble. I used to be naive like you, thinking that putting others first was the way to a fulfilling life, but by the time I got into my late 20's, I started to realize that life is hard, people are cruel and they are only interested in their own success.

    If you want to exist in a world where you can be financially secure, you need to start putting yourself first and not the well being of people trying to enter your country without permission from the government to do so. Otherwise, you'll live in poverty just like the migrants you profess to want to help. If you cared so much, you'd sponsor those people and bring them under your roof. Of course, like most virtue signaling SJW's, you won't do that because all you are interested in is scoring some virtual brownie points with like minded idiots who truly don't care.

    Meanwhile, I've got no problem with people wanting to come to my country, I've had immigrant friends since I was 5 years old and they have all grown into being wonderful people that I'm proud to call friends, but I have no issues with border rules being enforced to ensure that people who aren't approved to enter this country, are not allowed in. Of course, the Canadian Border Services doesn't treat them that way and they ensure that migrants have their cases heard, but it's certainly putting a lot of stress on our immigration system. I'm not going to be too critical of our government for doing what is right in this case, even though I don't agree with allowing people into Canada who have entered from an illegal port of entry.
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  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zython View Post
    I'm sure they're wearing fascist iconography for some other reason.
    That's a common problem is it? When did this happen and it wasn't something else, like the disabled veteran that got slandered for having a some military tattoo and not an iron cross. Did one of them make the OK symbol or something?


    Then why are they concentrating people in camps?
    They're not? Oh wait, you think holding centers are concentration camps right? Well you see, in the real world you need to put people somewhere while the gears of bureaucracy work. When they start sewing little Mexican flags in their outfits and starving them you'll have a point.

    Then why are they murdering people?
    'They' aren't doing shit, one psycho did something, and he got punished for it like all criminals should. Would be nice if you'd agree.

    True. It's been here for a while.
    Sure pal, go quiver in fear of the nazi takeover. You'll be having the last laugh when I'm hanging from the streetlights.

    Who told you to believe this?
    Funny coming from somebody so deeply entrenched in an ideological bubble that they think Hydra is basically real. Guess what, the 'borders are a bad thing, we should abolish them and there is no such thing as an illegal alien' opinion is not a widely held or popular opinion.

    Though I wonder what part of that you don't believe. That human trafficking happens? That migrant caravans are organised by outsider organisations? That there is a crisis because border control is obviously overwhelmed? Fake news right? A borderless paradise is just around the corner if it wasn't for those dastardly nazis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    What's next, are we going to bring up Hitler?

    What does my statement in regards to "people should get along and not hate each other, and care less about stupid lines on a map" have to do with communism?
    Where does hate even fit into your argument? Its not about hating others, its about groups of people around the world just not being comparable for cultural differences.

    Are you like that christian missionary who wanted to 'share the love' of Jesus with that tribe off the coast of india that's been cut off from the outside world, because that didn't work out to great for him. Learn from this.
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  12. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Where does hate even fit into your argument? Its not about hating others, its about groups of people around the world just not being comparable for cultural differences.

    Are you like that christian missionary who wanted to 'share the love' of Jesus with that tribe off the coast of india that's been cut off from the outside world, because that didn't work out to great for him. Learn from this.
    Again, you and the other poster seem to have to go to extremes to try to prove your points.

    Your "incompatibility" situation is hardly relevant to this as aside from the oddball actual racist like the one in the article, there isn't anything that's "incompatible" between the US and Mexico.

    But it has to be black and white I guess to make your point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jester Joe View Post
    Again, you and the other poster seem to have to go to extremes to try to prove your points.

    Your "incompatibility" situation is hardly relevant to this as aside from the oddball actual racist like the one in the article, there isn't anything that's "incompatible" between the US and Mexico.

    But it has to be black and white I guess to make your point
    you know what happens when you try and forcefully blend multiple colors together? You end up with grey.
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  14. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    you know what happens when you try and forcefully blend multiple colors together? You end up with grey.
    I'm tempted to just retort with saying that's false, because black and white aren't colors and mixing multiple colors results vary.


    But as I said, you're the one dealing with extremes only, not me.

  15. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunseeker View Post
    This is what you get when you have a culture that worships people with guns but doesn't train them to respect them.
    I liked that one. Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    you know what happens when you try and forcefully blend multiple colors together? You end up with grey.
    Man, you guys love your far right talking points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Man, you guys love your far right talking points.
    nah we really don't, but its just easier getting your goat over such trivial things. Far leftist think everyone to the right of them is the same, while far righters think the same of anyone to the left of them. And everyone else inbetween just laughs at you guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    nah we really don't, but its just easier getting your goat over such trivial things. Far leftist think everyone to the right of them is the same, while far righters think the same of anyone to the left of them. And everyone else inbetween just laughs at you guys.
    Pretending to be in-between after spouting far right talking points lol, you're a funny guy.

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  20. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cradyz View Post
    That's a common problem is it? When did this happen and it wasn't something else, like the disabled veteran that got slandered for having a some military tattoo and not an iron cross. Did one of them make the OK symbol or something?
    I mean, in the sense the Iron Cross is a "military tattoo", sure. Though I doubt he was a vetaran of the Franco-Prussian War.

    They're not? Oh wait, you think holding centers are concentration camps right?
    This isn't concentration to you?

    Well you see, in the real world you need to put people somewhere while the gears of bureaucracy work. When they start sewing little Mexican flags in their outfits and starving them you'll have a point.
    They've been doing that for a while.

    'They' aren't doing shit, one psycho did something, and he got punished for it like all criminals should. Would be nice if you'd agree.
    Wait. One guy killed all those people across multiple facilities? He must have been very busy.

    Sure pal, go quiver in fear of the nazi takeover. You'll be having the last laugh when I'm hanging from the streetlights.
    That does actually sound quite humorous, I admit.

    Funny coming from somebody so deeply entrenched in an ideological bubble that they think Hydra is basically real.
    What? No. Fascism isn't done in secret. When did I say that?

    Guess what, the 'borders are a bad thing, we should abolish them and there is no such thing as an illegal alien' opinion is not a widely held or popular opinion.
    So? Plenty of policy positions that were proven to be correct were unpopular initially.

    Though I wonder what part of that you don't believe. That human trafficking happens? That migrant caravans are organised by outsider organisations? That there is a crisis because border control is obviously overwhelmed? Fake news right? A borderless paradise is just around the corner if it wasn't for those dastardly nazis.
    I'll be happy to answer this when you answer my question first.
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