Multiverse theory

[Akka]

because you have this backwards: it's not that a universe exists where those values are just right to support life, it's that life blossomed under the existing conditions in such a way that met those conditions.
the mistake here is assuming that "life as we know it" is somehow the default, or is some kind of optimal configuration - in fact, it's simply what happened to sludge up out of the myriad of circumstances the universe presented it with.

You realize that was exactly his point ?

[PC2]

No I don't, I think its fucking stupid. I like to think what it would be like going through life with 3 dicks but no, there isn't a version of me in some other reality that has 3 dicks.

Well that would depend if evolution could ever produce those genes. Animals with too many unnecessary appendages tend to die off since they cost resources but don't confer much benefit.

[Kharadin]

Do you believe in a multiverse theory which talks about infinite alternate versions of our universe?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse

Even if there are an infinite number of universes, I'd be dubious that even one exists where the populace of this sub-forum are qualified to have an opinion on the nature of the universe.

[Ghostpanther]

Believing or not believing in it doesn't matter, since it doesn't change anything.

This. I find it a waste of mental energy to be concerned about the existence of a more than one Universe. Much more important things to think about which we do know exists.

Another way to put it is....I am aware it is not what I do not know by which I will be judged, but by what I did about what I do know.

[Independent voter]

From what I've read about multiverses, multiple dimensions and multiverses were just a way to get the math to work.

Maybe someday scientists will find another way to get the math to work.

[unbound]

Do you believe in a multiverse theory which talks about infinite alternate versions of our universe?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse

Not really.

The whole concept of multiverse comes about due to mathematics of various physics disciplines, which includes various concepts of time travel (i.e. time travel backwards, time travel forward is something we already do). A multiverse resolves the various possible time travel paradoxes.

Where the concept breaks down (at least for alternate versions of our universe) is in two major regards:

1) Thermodynamics doesn't operate backwards

2) The fact that the universe is expanding (space itself)

In both cases, this likely makes time travel (backwards) impossible which then begs the question about "multiverse as alternate versions of this universe" as even being something to consider (again, for alternate versions of this universe, it really is about resolving time travel paradoxes).

This is not to say that there can't be a multiverse, but each one is likely drastically different from our own.

[Kathandira]

Do you believe in a multiverse theory which talks about infinite alternate versions of our universe?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse

Hard to 'believe' in something that is not able to be proven.

[Aenigma84]

Believing or not believing in it doesn't matter, since it doesn't change anything.

it would if they find a way to get there someday, might be easier to colonise that then cross the vast distance of space in the end

[Forogil]

Hard to 'believe' in something that is not able to be proven.

Or one could say that makes it easier: if we knew it to be true or false there would be no need to 'believe' in it - or it would be flat out wrong.

[lloskka]

yes, we got already portals to an alternate past, and a dragonflight that can alter it

[RangerDaz]

I don’t really believe in alternate versions of our own universe, but I do believe there’s multiple universes.

More this ^^

Don't think the big bang was an unique event.

Seems like it could have resulted from the mass compressed by one (gargantuan?) black hole from another older universe.
Our universe's black holes could have also created new universes as well... (and continue to do so?)


I have some difficulty in believing there could be another me in another earth out there.
I don't have a hard time believing multiple universes exist and are still being created ... in whatever strange place this universe is.

[zEmini]

Maybe or maybe not, but it adds another layer to trans dimensional existence.

If they do exists and there are parallel universes where history is different; then that means we are not in control of our destiny. Living creatures are variables and the choices they make create a butterfly effect for eternity. These parallel universes still have to abide by the laws of physics other wise that isn't a parallel universe but a completely separate universe that has its own building blocks.

I break down the dimensions as coordinates in my own pseudo science here:

1st: Latitude
2nd: Longitude
3rd: Altitude
4th: Time
5th: Parallel Dimension: What we are talking about here.
6th: Trans-Dimensional universes: Same Atomic structure like ours, but separated from our universe with its own parallel appendages.
7th: Xeno-Trans-Dimensional: Building blocks and psychics are completely different than ours.

EDIT: Then again, we could all be living in side a black hole which was created when a massive sun exploded (big bang) and that is how the universe works. Eventually all of reality will collapse into itself and there will be nothing but nothingness to the point that it hurts your brain to think about.

[cuafpr]

in this universe yes however in another one i don't

[Jotaux]

I don’t believe in it. Not to say I disbelieve it, I just haven’t looked at the evidence to come up with a logical conclusion.

[Frogguh]

Is this the thread where we perform Olympic mental gymnastics to avoid the inescapable conclusion that there is a god? It is? Very well, I will leave you to your painful looking contortions.

[Daedius]

Believing or not believing in it doesn't matter, since it doesn't change anything.

Yes it does! It means if you don't believe in it there's an alternate reality where you do,and vice versa!

[Adam Jensen]

Or one could say that makes it easier: if we knew it to be true or false there would be no need to 'believe' in it - or it would be flat out wrong.

That's how I feel about evolution.

I don't believe in evolution; I instead know it to be correct because of the overwhelming evidence, from the fossil record, geological record, DNA, genetics, cellular make up, organ structure, body form, embriology . . .

But I believe in the multiverse theory because it makes sense to me and there's no real way to verify if it's true or not. If on the rare happenstance that the next einstein proves it wrong, then I'll change my mind. It's not life changing or that important.

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Is this the thread where we perform Olympic mental gymnastics to avoid the inescapable conclusion that there is a god? It is? Very well, I will leave you to your painful looking contortions.

Oh I'd love to have this discussion, but forum rules deny me that humor.

[Molis]

Yes, and I hope they bring back Sliders

[Gaexion Ramza Beoulve]

A better question is do all these universes exist in the same spacetime, seperate spacetimes, or is there a super-spacetime that houses all the other little spacetimes.

Does she suckle the baby spacetimes until they are old enough to raise little spacetimes of their own. Do they feed on other spaces and times or do they consume an alternate source of energy?

And it begs the question...are there multiple multiverses? I am very smart.

[Forogil]

And it begs the question...are there multiple multiverses? I am very smart.

There are multiple variants of multiverses, so if you believe Greene or Tegmark's the answer is yes.