This Essence, known as Conflict and Strife

[Hightotemz]

Does anyone know how we acquire this particular essence? Is it from battleground?

[Galathir]

From wowhead:

Obtain from: World PvP.

Rank 1: Earn 500 Conquest and claim a weekly PvP War Chest.
Rank 2: Reach 1,000 Rating in Rated PvP and claim your next weekly PvP War Chest.
Rank 3: Collect Burgeoning Battlefield Furor from your weekly PvP War Chest.
Rank 4: Reach Elite rank and claim your next weekly PvP War Chest.

Obtain when: Season 3.

[Hightotemz]

Thanks, looks like the 1st 3 ranks (power ranks) will be easily obtainable even if PVP isn't your focus.

[Nevcairiel]

And 4 is only cosmetic, so its fine if you're after this one.

[Nnyco]

Thanks, looks like the 1st 3 ranks (power ranks) will be easily obtainable even if PVP isn't your focus.

Even 2nd is easy considering you dont lose rating until you hit 1000.

[ddsad2212]

"Collect Burgeoning Battlefield Furor" Is this a specific rank? I haven't been able to find anything in regards to this. Looks like its just a drop from Weekly chest? Any guide on best way to get them out there

[Nnyco]

"Collect Burgeoning Battlefield Furor" Is this a specific rank? I haven't been able to find anything in regards to this. Looks like its just a drop from Weekly chest? Any guide on best way to get them out there

Thats the name of the item, basically you need 15 of em to create the "true" item to get rank 3. How many you get per week though /shrug.

[Hittion]

I don't really get why we are returning to the system of making ranks of abilities drop but ok.

[Flurryfang]

I don't really get why we are returning to the system of making ranks of abilities drop but ok.

Its in a hunt to give value to content. The ranks not only gives power, but also a cosmetic upgrade, so maybe the value is enough for people to hunt.

[Big Thanks]

It's progression. Some essences will be simple to get to rank 2 or 3 (the rep ones specifically) while others will take more effort.

My main issue with this is how unfriendly it is for alts. Extremely so.

Yeah, thats my only complaint.

But im extremely excited for some customization No matter how little it is (in this case is pretty BIG though)

[Sanguinerd]

Meh looking through some of the essences and how to obtain them is just going to be another annoyance.

Why couldn't they have made the really shiny essences part of something like the mage tower scenarios and have it work like glyphs or something so after BFA you could still use and enjoy them.

The feedback was people didn't like the HoA nor having to grind azerite.. now we gotta do it again


pssst.. Magni.. you can have your necklace back bro.

[Azerate]

Meh looking through some of the essences and how to obtain them is just going to be another annoyance.

Why couldn't they have made the really shiny essences part of something like the mage tower scenarios and have it work like glyphs or something so after BFA you could still use and enjoy them.

The feedback was people didn't like the HoA nor having to grind azerite.. now we gotta do it again


pssst.. Magni.. you can have your necklace back bro.

The feedback was also, people want to have meaningful goals in the game to work for and be rewarded for doing so. This is exactly that. I agree that if you just want to be handed everything on a silver platter then you probably won't enjoy the overhauled system.

[Hittion]

Its in a hunt to give value to content. The ranks not only gives power, but also a cosmetic upgrade, so maybe the value is enough for people to hunt.

I suppose but wouldn't doing things like returning to tiers and getting rid of AP and titanforging give real value? This feels like they are just adding more gambling mechanics.

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The feedback was also, people want to have meaningful goals in the game to work for and be rewarded for doing so. This is exactly that. I agree that if you just want to be handed everything on a silver platter then you probably won't enjoy the overhauled system.

Meaningful goals should be tied to progression not arbitrary grinds though. The only goal that isn't a time sink or rng in the talent is its final tier of hitting elite and I am told that is only cosmetic.

[Flurryfang]

I suppose but wouldn't doing things like returning to tiers and getting rid of AP and titanforging give real value? This feels like they are just adding more gambling mechanics.

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Meaningful goals should be tied to progression not arbitrary grinds though. The only goal that isn't a time sink or rng in the talent is its final tier of hitting elite and I am told that is only cosmetic.

Yes, yes it would...... But they are apperantly very aimed at trying something new xD

[RobertMugabe]

Thanks, looks like the 1st 3 ranks (power ranks) will be easily obtainable even if PVP isn't your focus.

Rank 3 should take quite a long time, but yeah 1 and 2 are ez pez, could literally do it within 2 weeks (week 1 rank 1, week 2 rank 2) and that only because you gotta wait for the weekly chest. Otherwise it takes just a couple hours max. Also lol @ at all these people already calling it a massive grind or whatever... as if having to do endgame content (you know the entire purpose of this game) normally to unlock something good is terrible game design.

[ultima ratio]

the alt argument may turn out true. the rest is nonsense, as i was far more emotionally attached to Legion Artefacts as HoA, but never had to grind it to be content-ready. the idea of progressing hard skills by simply playing the game (aka softnerf via time-investment) is great, there is always something to do. if some Masos feel the urge to grind 300 Maw Of Souls/week for minor advantage, thats on their interpretation of fun.

although it took blizzney some months into Legion to realise, as NH mythic after 3. boss was designed for max artefact level (nerfed quick due to outcry).

[erifwodahs]

Meh looking through some of the essences and how to obtain them is just going to be another annoyance.

Why couldn't they have made the really shiny essences part of something like the mage tower scenarios and have it work like glyphs or something so after BFA you could still use and enjoy them.

The feedback was people didn't like the HoA nor having to grind azerite.. now we gotta do it again


pssst.. Magni.. you can have your necklace back bro.

I think the complaint was neck being boring, not the grind, which was ofc a complaint to some people too. I loved grinding my artifact in Legion, I will love this neck/essences grind now too, because it won't be just a "2ilvls". I am quite hyped.

[Hittion]

Yes, yes it would...... But they are apperantly very aimed at trying something new xD

The new annoys and disappoints me. I've learned that subverting my expectations is code word for shit. I just want to go back to when things were... well if not good not terrible.

[Sanguinerd]

I agree that if you just want to be handed everything on a silver platter then you probably won't enjoy the overhauled system.

Yeah that's totally what I'm saying..

Because anything you don't understand is people asking to be handed shit. 8/8

[Azerate]

Meaningful goals should be tied to progression not arbitrary grinds though. The only goal that isn't a time sink or rng in the talent is its final tier of hitting elite and I am told that is only cosmetic.

I don't know about that.

For example Essence of the Focusing Iris, which is one of my bis essences apparently, according to the guides:

1. Complete a Mythic+ key of Level 4 or higher
2. Complete a Mythic+ key of Level 7 or higher
3 .Combine 15 Focused Life Anima Icon Focused Life Anima from your Weekly Mythic+ Cache
4. Complete Battle for Azeroth Keystone Master: Season Three Icon Battle for Azeroth Keystone Master: Season Three

I mean there are those who will always complain and you can't ever please them. Everything in the game is "time sink" or "rng" in some way. Some things require a bit of skill to add to that too. It's fine.