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    So, if I got a starforge and use a val orb on it, what are the chances I ruin the starforge and make it garbage? Ive never tried to val a good item before, but I hear it can get levle 10 fortify support so It would be more than worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beazy View Post
    So, if I got a starforge and use a val orb on it, what are the chances I ruin the starforge and make it garbage? Ive never tried to val a good item before, but I hear it can get levle 10 fortify support so It would be more than worth it.
    Unless you got the currency to replace an item of such value, assuming 6link high rolled divined starforge, you dont Vaal them.

    Vaaling is something like 6/10 times nothing happens, 2/10 times it turns into a rare, (or more like 5/3) 1/10 times some sort of socket reroll aka white sockets, 1/10 times something actually decent at implicit.

    In reality its more like 5/100 something half decent, cause even if it rolls an implicit its probably gonna be something completely useless for your spec.

    So your chances it turns into garbage is something between 60-80%, cause if corrupted, sockets colors cant be changed, price undervalues a lot cause of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by potis View Post
    Unless you got the currency to replace an item of such value, assuming 6link high rolled divined starforge, you dont Vaal them.

    Vaaling is something like 6/10 times nothing happens, 2/10 times it turns into a rare, 1/10 times some sort of socket reroll aka white sockets, 1/10 times something actually decent at implicit.

    So your chances it turns into garbage is something between 60-80%, cause if corrupted, sockets colors cant be changed, price undervalues a lot cause of that.
    Well F that. This damn thing costed me 10 exalts. . . . I didnt know it would turn a unique into a rare. I would die if that happened. . . . . just thinking about it makes me upset LoL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beazy View Post
    So, if I got a starforge and use a val orb on it, what are the chances I ruin the starforge and make it garbage? Ive never tried to val a good item before, but I hear it can get levle 10 fortify support so It would be more than worth it.
    Starforge is a noobtrap.

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    I fucking hate GGG for these crashes, that's just bad coding practices. Happened to me about 5 times while leveling to 60 and around every 20th map since then or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracked View Post
    I fucking hate GGG for these crashes, that's just bad coding practices. Happened to me about 5 times while leveling to 60 and around every 20th map since then or so.
    Its your PC, stop blaming the game.

    Last what? 10 leagues everyone keeps crying about crashes, last 2 years i crashed with this league included less than 10 times and the crashes are 99% my fault with alt-tabbing repeatedly and too fast.

    I play from 10 different PC configurations and barely ever crash, thats from default client.

    Are you playing from Steam too? I did have some extra crashes when i tried it from steam 2 years ago to check something and reverted to the client instantly cause of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by potis View Post
    Its your PC, stop blaming the game.
    Lol no it isn't...

    That game is just garbage coding. Nearly my whole wow guild is currently playing the league. The game crashes multiple times a day for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    Lol no it isn't...

    That game is just garbage coding. Nearly my whole wow guild is currently playing the league. The game crashes multiple times a day for everyone.
    Then your whole guild has garbage PCs, stop blaming the game or playing on Steam.

    I literally just told you i play from 10 different configurations and barely ever crash, and when i do its my fault cause some of those PCs run terrible images (Net cafe) and cant handle alt-tabbing cause of HDD.

    The game has garbage coding thats why a 9700K/2080 drops to 60 FPS during massive amount of yellow mobs freed at Legion encounter, but it doesnt "Crash" multiple times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by potis View Post
    Then your whole guild has garbage PCs, stop blaming the game or playing on Steam.

    I literally just told you i play from 10 different configurations and barely ever crash, and when i do its my fault cause some of those PCs run terrible images (Net cafe) and cant handle alt-tabbing cause of HDD.

    The game has garbage coding thats why a 9700K/2080 drops to 60 FPS during massive amount of yellow mobs freed at Legion encounter, but it doesnt "Crash" multiple times.
    Talk about denial, gratz I guess, you play a build that rarely if ever causes crashes.. next you're going to tell me to reroll to a build that's fine, aren't you? It's their fucking game, they should make sure it works fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apustus View Post
    Starforge is a noobtrap.
    Is it? Mine does crazy DPS, I went from struggling in Map 10s to not having any trouble anymore with any map. My only problem is that after map 13, nothing for 14+ wants to drop for me. I feel like I have to buy all the 14 and ups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beazy View Post
    Is it? Mine does crazy DPS, I went from struggling in Map 10s to not having any trouble anymore with any map. My only problem is that after map 13, nothing for 14+ wants to drop for me. I feel like I have to buy all the 14 and ups.
    Its a 4 year old item, you can craft something better with half the cost of what you paid to buy it.

    Also you have to divine multiple times to actually get anywhere near its 730 max DPS.

    It also has 0% extra critical which is generally terrible.

    Hence why its a noob trap, is it very good and OP? Yes because the game has an insane problem with increasing the DPS every league making most of the content irrelevant which a terrible rolled 550 pDPS starforge can do all content.

    Are there better options if you have a clue? Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracked View Post
    Talk about denial, gratz I guess, you play a build that rarely if ever causes crashes.. next you're going to tell me to reroll to a build that's fine, aren't you? It's their fucking game, they should make sure it works fine.
    I played magma orb miner sire of shards with 9 bounces and slow projectiles, that means around to 200-300 magma orbs on screen at the uber elder fight, and thats actually low cause mana limitations, and i also doubt you even have a clue what i am talking about about this build.

    I am not gonna hold an argument about PC performance with random people when its practically my job to make sure PCs run well.

    As i said, stop blaming the game for your lack of knowledge to have a half-decent configured PC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by potis View Post
    Its a 4 year old item, you can craft something better with half the cost of what you paid to buy it.

    Also you have to divine multiple times to actually get anywhere near its 730 max DPS.

    It also has 0% extra critical which is generally terrible.

    Hence why its a noob trap, is it very good and OP? Yes.

    Are there better options if you have a clue? Yes.
    Well considering that something like half the people this league play resolute technique, crit is irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by potis View Post

    I am not gonna hold an argument about PC performance with random people when its practically my job to make sure PCs run well.

    As i said, stop blaming the game for your lack of knowledge to have a half-decent configured PC.
    Again, gratz I guess. If it can't run well on a 2080ti/7700k with 32gb ram with pretty much nothing else running, I don't know why that's my problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracked View Post
    Well considering that something like half the people this league play resolute technique, crit is irrelevant.

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    Again, gratz I guess. If it can't run well on a 2080ti/7700k with 32gb ram with pretty much nothing else running, I don't know why that's my problem.
    The game running like shit, is a known problem, its the usual old engine problem, nothing new.

    The game crashing is not a problem.

    Its 2 different things.

    Resolute Technique with these accuracy changes? Yeah no and it takes 10 seconds in poe ninja to figure out why you dont play Resolute Technique with these accuracy changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by potis View Post
    I literally just told you i play from 10 different configurations
    Sure you do buddy, sure you do.

    So sad how protective about their hobby some gamers are. Like if a single flaw to their game is a flaw to themselves...
    I will even push from sad to pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ealyssa View Post
    Sure you do buddy, sure you do.

    So sad how protective about their hobby some gamers are. Like if a single flaw to their game is a flaw for themselves...
    Yawn.

    I am from a country where net cafes are a culture, i am from a country where everything is open 24/7, i am Greek.

    I build/maintain/support PCs for the last 12 years.

    Allow me to know more about PCs and how they should be running than your clueless self.

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    Quote Originally Posted by potis View Post
    Its your PC, stop blaming the game.

    Last what? 10 leagues everyone keeps crying about crashes, last 2 years i crashed with this league included less than 10 times and the crashes are 99% my fault with alt-tabbing repeatedly and too fast.

    I play from 10 different PC configurations and barely ever crash, thats from default client.

    Are you playing from Steam too? I did have some extra crashes when i tried it from steam 2 years ago to check something and reverted to the client instantly cause of that.
    Must be fun to lie on the internet.

    PoE is well known for crashes and stability issues early in a new season, get over it and stop being so aggressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by potis View Post
    Yawn.

    I am from a country where net cafes are a culture, i am from a country where everything is open 24/7, i am Greek.

    I build/maintain/support PCs for the last 12 years.

    Allow me to know more about PCs and how they should be running than your clueless self.
    You are pretty hard in denial that crashes exist, when it is literally in today's patch notes that they fixed crashes. And have been in every patch for Legion so far. Stop nerdraging on the internet and accept that flaws exist with GGGs coding.


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    Quote Originally Posted by potis View Post
    Its a 4 year old item, you can craft something better with half the cost of what you paid to buy it.

    Also you have to divine multiple times to actually get anywhere near its 730 max DPS.

    It also has 0% extra critical which is generally terrible.

    Hence why its a noob trap, is it very good and OP? Yes because the game has an insane problem with increasing the DPS every league making most of the content irrelevant which a terrible rolled 550 pDPS starforge can do all content.

    Are there better options if you have a clue? Yes.
    You could be right about pure meta weapon, but I dont put in the hours to DPS on the bleeding edge of PoE. Starforge is pretty epic for someone like me. Mine is over 640 and I didnt use any orbs on it other than fusing and chrom.



    Quote Originally Posted by potis View Post
    Yawn.

    I am from a country where net cafes are a culture, i am from a country where everything is open 24/7, i am Greek.

    I build/maintain/support PCs for the last 12 years.

    Allow me to know more about PCs and how they should be running than your clueless self.
    Patch notes says they resolved a few client crashes today, so did the last batch of patch notes. Are you sure you arent confusing building and maintaining PCs with software development?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beazy View Post
    You could be right about pure meta weapon, but I dont put in the hours to DPS on the bleeding edge of PoE. Starforge is pretty epic for someone like me. Mine is over 640 and I didnt use any orbs on it other than fusing and chrom.
    Starforge is completely fine. He isn't entirely wrong on crafting a weapon for less. A eldered Exquisite Blade (which you usually want as a crafting base) already costs 3ex if you want a 86ilvl one. The investment in Alterations currently is 1:6 (1c for 6 alterations, which is PRETTY expensive) and you want to hit Fortify support + Physical Damage, depending on how lucky you get with that, that can be quite an investment. Multiple Crafts is an Ex. Then AS craft is 1 ex as well. Crit + Quality is another ex. Hit's cant be Evaded is another 3.

    Lets just say you got EXTREMELY unlucky and needed 800 alterations for the Fortify + Phys% T1 roll, thats already around an ex. Everything together, with the base, you are already looking at 10ex simply for those crafts. Then a couple of Chaos Orbs for getting the t1 physical damage craft rolls. You also would want to get some resonators and perfect fossils to reach 30% quality baseline to make the linking easier, which depending on your luck can also increase the cost. Then Jeweler Orbs (which aren't THAT expensive) and say another 1000 fusings, you definitely reach the cost of an unlinked Starforge already. You can definitely get a crafted weapon thats gonna be cheaper, but it depends on a lot more factors than just buying a decently rolled Starforge and be done with it. Also you probably want to imprint the weapon, because you definitely want to annul whatever you regal onto the weapon after getting the Fortify Phys roll, unless you get something really good.

    Of course it all comes down to luck and Hits cant be Evaded MIGHT not be needed for you if you got enough accuracy via your tree, but considering that Hits cant be Evaded is afaik global, it gives a lot of more value to your other things you might be using. It might cost you a lot more than 10 ex to craft something good.

    See it like this: if you sixlinked your starforge and it has decent rolls on it, you can sell it and invest into crafting your own weapon, which will probably require some divines as well. If you are feeling extremely lucky, you can also just go and yolo-annul the multiple craft mod, so you get another potential damage craft.

    Patch notes says they resolved a few client crashes today, so did the last batch of patch notes. Are you sure you arent confusing building and maintaining PCs with software development?
    While some people DO have shitty PCs, it more than not comes down to GGG's bugs. Playing on HDD is also another issue of the old engine, just aswell as the general server problems a lot of people experience. For the current crashes, it definitely is more on GGGs side instead of PC issues, especially if other stuff runs fine.
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    God damn I love trading. New shield that gives me endurance/power/frenzy charges on block, no more mana cost on pretty much anything with a ring upgrade letting me use dread banner for the free impale (since I don't need accuracy), and a better jewel. Still have more levels to get some more life and importantly resistances so I can move enchants around a bit. I need to keep mapping because I'm pretty sure this character can largely already clear guardians.

    And I've still got levels and some more upgrades to go, plus room to play around with helm/chest upgrades if I find some decent stuff. I still think I prefer my minion aurabot overall, but hot damn it's hilariously fun to zip around with pretty much perma-quickness spinning and winning forever.

    Wish there was a way to just link the character you played rather than your full account, because I'm actually pretty impressed with myself that I've manage to make this wonky-ass build work so damn well.

    Edit: Also I don't think I crashed last night! At least not that I remembered, so I'm hoping that the latest crash fixes (apparently one included counterattacks?) resolved whatever remaining issues were crashing me to desktop.

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