Texas Republican says conditions in immigrant centers are worst he's ever seen

[Independent voter]

Congrats? The US wins the "Not as big a dick as you could have been" award?

It fundamentally disproves your statement that it is "not our problem". Immigration to the US is the result of the US' policies, and it is absolutely typical that the party of "personal responsibility" isn't willing to take any in terms of paying for the damage they've been complicit in inflicting.

How many Republicans take money from corporations that fund agriculture and other value extraction industries in Central America that contribute to the glut of asylum seekers, and then say there's insufficient funds to deal with the problem?

I think the fact that we didn't colonize Latin America is a big deal. Europe would've colonized it in a heartbeat and they have colonized French Guiana and Belize, but they would've colonized the whole thing. Chile, Argentina, Venezuela all would've been French or British colonies.

Or we could've colonize Latin America ourselves. We were nice enough not to.

[Edge-]

We were nice enough not to.

Read the article so you can stop making ignorant posts. We weren't "nice" at all.

[Elegiac]

I think the fact that we didn't colonize Latin America is a big deal. Europe would've colonized it in a heartbeat and they have colonized French Guiana and Belize, but they would've colonized the whole thing. Chile, Argentina, Venezuela all would've been French or British colonies.

Or we could've colonize Latin America ourselves. We were nice enough not to.

No, you were just too busy colonising North America, the Philippines, Puerto Rico, Guam, etc.

Exactly what do you think the fuck Manifest Destiny was.

[Independent voter]

Read the article so you can stop making ignorant posts. We weren't "nice" at all.

In your opinion. Not colonizing someone is a nice thing to do.

No, you were just too busy colonising North America, the Philippines, Puerto Rico, Guam, etc.

Exactly what do you think the fuck Manifest Destiny was.

It wasn't about colonization, I can tell you that.

Compare us to other countries at the time. Why would you expect us to be saintly in 1840? I think we were well behaved in comparison to other countries at the time.

[Hilhen7]

I think the fact that we didn't colonize Latin America is a big deal. Europe would've colonized it in a heartbeat and they have colonized French Guiana and Belize, but they would've colonized the whole thing. Chile, Argentina, Venezuela all would've been French or British colonies.

Or we could've colonize Latin America ourselves. We were nice enough not to.

So basically people should be thankful that we didn't kill them and take their land? That's pretty sad...

[Edge-]

In your opinion. Not colonizing someone is a nice thing to do.

Did you read the article yet? Or are you still using your fanfiction version of US history that's not actually based on fact?

Because this is some pretty bad historical ignorance/whitewashing.

[Drutt]

As a naturalized US citizen, it's truly stunning to me how ignorant some native borns are as regards their own country's history.

Simply incredible.

[Elegiac]

It wasn't about colonization, I can tell you that.

Hm...

"The term manifest destiny was popularized by columnist John O’Sullivan, who penned an article in 1845 that denounced other nations for “limiting our greatness and checking the fulfillment of our manifest destiny to overspread the continent allotted by Providence for the free development of our yearly multiplying millions.”

Looks like colonialism, sounds like colonialism...

Compare us to other countries at the time. Why would you expect us to be saintly in 1840? I think we were well behaved in comparison to other countries at the time.

You weren't, and your aforementioned ignorance of American history demonstrates what "you think" to be worth less than nothing on this subject.

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As a naturalized US citizen, it's truly stunning to me how ignorant some native borns are as regards their own country's history.

Simply incredible.

What on earth makes you think he's a native born American.

[Independent voter]

Hm...



Looks like colonialism, sounds like colonialism...



You weren't, and your aforementioned ignorance of American history demonstrates what "you think" to be worth less than nothing on this subject.

We didn't colonize, we annexed.


annex[ verb uh-neks, an-eks; noun an-eks, -iks ]SHOW IPA
EXAMPLES|WORD ORIGINSEE MORE SYNONYMS FOR annex ON THESAURUS.COM
verb (used with object)
to attach, append, or add, especially to something larger or more important.
to incorporate (territory) into the domain of a city, country, or state:
Germany annexed part of Czechoslovakia.
to take or appropriate, especially without permission.
to attach as an attribute, condition, or consequence.




Some of it we bought with gold, believe it or not. The Louisiana Purchase and Alaska for example. The "New Spain" part we won after fighting a war with Mexico, something a lot of countries did at the time, take land following a war.

I think we just sent an army into Florida and nobody protested so we annexed it too.

[Hilhen7]

In your opinion. Not colonizing someone is a nice thing to do.






It wasn't about colonization, I can tell you that.

Compare us to other countries at the time. Why would you expect us to be saintly in 1840? I think we were well behaved in comparison to other countries at the time.

Sure if you can call a near genocide "well behaved". And we had all the slaves and such, and after that we had segregation and so on.

[draynay]

Why did people have to get Hubcap talking about history? You already know he makes everything up, why do you need to pain me so?

[Felya]

We didn't colonize, we annexed.

Did you just call expansion of American colonies an annex, as some sort of defense that it want colonization?

[Independent voter]

Did you just call expansion of American colonies an annex, as some sort of defense that it want colonization?

Not sure what your question is. We had won our independence by the time of the Louisiana Purchase, so America was no longer a colony of Britain.

And if you think not colonizing Latin America is a trifle, you should talk to Ireland about colonization.

[Machismo]

Not sure what your question is. We had won our independence by the time of the Louisiana Purchase, so America was no longer a colony of Britain.

And if you think not colonizing Latin America is a trifle, you should talk to Ireland about colonization.

So, forcefully taking land and keeping it is good. Forcefully taking land, and allowing a puppet government is bad,

Got it.

[draynay]

Also the US didn't colonize the moon because we're so nice, you're welcome everyone.

[Endus]

I think the fact that we didn't colonize Latin America is a big deal. Europe would've colonized it in a heartbeat and they have colonized French Guiana and Belize, but they would've colonized the whole thing. Chile, Argentina, Venezuela all would've been French or British colonies.

Or we could've colonize Latin America ourselves. We were nice enough not to.

Wait, wait wait wait.

Are you arguing that Spain and Portugal aren't part of Europe? That their colonial efforts, the entire reason the region is called "Latin America", were not colonial efforts?

That's fucking hilarious, even for you, man.

[Independent voter]

Wait, wait wait wait.

Are you arguing that Spain and Portugal aren't part of Europe? That their colonial efforts, the entire reason the region is called "Latin America", were not colonial efforts?

That's fucking hilarious, even for you, man.

Simon Bolivar is on the phone, he'd like to talk to you.

[Xeones]

Uh... didn't the confederacy colonize latin america? And don't we have a president who speaks very fondly of the confederacy?

[draynay]

Simon Bolivar is on the phone, he'd like to talk to you.

What are you even trying to say...?

[Bodonius]

So democrats should agree on adding money?