“Tell your King,he is not alone" What this means?

[Broken Fox]

That three “traitors” will fight against Sylvanas.

Fixed it. You’re welcome.

Sylvanas is the Warchief, you can't get any more Horde than that

Checkmate, dickface

[Infraction]

[vsb]

Could you explain? I'm a bit out of lore nowadays, why she became Warchief illegitimate? Didn't Vol'jin name her? Thank you.

Apparently someone fooled Vol'jin to name her. But that does not make her illegitimate. It's only Vol'jin fault that he let some spirit to fool himself.

That said, those are just speculations. Vol'jin lost his memories, so we can't be sure about anything.

[Yes but actually no]

Mak'gora died out after the last one was tainted by outside interferance which they all know would happen again. Sylvanas would use blight in the fight almost certainley if she was about to lose. Her banshee abilities are forbidden in these duels but you can guarantee she would use them too. This isn't old orc vs orc challenges of old, Mak'gora is useless if you know your opponent will cheat.

Sylvanas is the Warchief, you can't get any more Horde than that

Checkmate, dickface

An undead belf who became warchief from some sort of deception is not "more horde" than the first warchief of the new horde, the most legendary veteran of all warcraft wars in the past 30 years who was former right hand to aforementioned warchief and possibly soon to be future warchief. Both thrall and saurfang are "mr horde" in their own rights

Sylvanas couldnt even hold undercity when her own people lead a mutiny with varamathris, and she had to come begging thrall for help, then another mutiny at the wrathgate, shes done nothing of actual note to benefit the horde, only have them cause destruction for no reason other than her enjoyment or her quarrel with greymane, and thats only when shes not too busy trying to secure more valkerie for herself so she can revive next time she dies.

She is, and always will be the true betrayer and traitor to the horde.

Apparently someone fooled Vol'jin to name her. But that does not make her illegitimate. It's only Vol'jin fault that he let some spirit to fool himself.

That said, those are just speculations. Vol'jin lost his memories, so we can't be sure about anything.

Nathanos was hiding behind the throne whispering to Vol'jin so his little dead wifu could run the show

[Super Dickmann]

Mak'gora died out after the last one was tainted by outside interferance which they all know would happen again. Sylvanas would use blight in the fight almost certainley if she was about to lose. Her banshee abilities are forbidden in these duels but you can guarantee she would use them too. This isn't old orc vs orc challenges of old, Mak'gora is useless if you know your opponent will cheat.

How do you people (ditto @Ogarash) come up with this stuff, Sylvanas based a whole plan in Ashenvale around herself going toe to toe with Malfurion, who bodied Saurfang in seconds without even using his druidic powers. If Thrall can use his shamanism in Mak'gora, and Cairne can logically use his innate strength as a tauren, then Sylvanas is obviously able to user her innate powers as a banshee.

[Yes but actually no]

How do you people (ditto @Ogarash) come up with this stuff, Sylvanas based a whole plan in Ashenvale around herself going toe to toe with Malfurion, who bodied Saurfang in seconds without even using his druidic powers. If Thrall can use his shamanism in Mak'gora, and Cairne can logically use his innate strength as a tauren, then Sylvanas is obviously able to user her innate powers as a banshee.

Like you seem to be twisting this to shape it into your own perspective.


Thrall used the elements indeed, which was forbidden in this rite and the elements have never helped him since. I am not sure where you've been for the past 3/4 years to not understand that but thralls story ever since defeating garrosh has been about the elements abandoning him for his actions that day. He sacrafied and forfeit his rights to be a shaman that day to put a stop to a mistake that he created and he has paid the price for ever since.

Makgora is a rite between 2 warriors, magic is forbidden. None of your delusions about sylvanas will change that fact.

Even Garrosh was furious when he found out his blade had been poisoned to interfere with makgora.

[Demetrion]

That means these traitors will back up the Alliance. They should have died back in SOO.

[Super Dickmann]

Like you seem to be twisting this to shape it into your own perspective.


Thrall used the elements indeed, which was forbidden in this rite and the elements have never helped him since. I am not sure where you've been for the past 3/4 years to not understand that but thralls story ever since defeating garrosh has been about the elements abandoning him for his actions that day.

While Thrall cheating is a good meme that I've had a lot of fun with over the years, that's not what the narrative wants us to get out of it. This isn't the first time he used his powers in a Mak'gora against Garrosh, he also used lightning in their initial Mak'gora in Wrath and Garrosh's internal narration doesn't remark on this being against the rules, only that if the fight would've gone on, he would've lost. We also see in one of the shitty comics that a shaman can use her powers vs a blood elf paladin and there's no issue.

The reason Thrall lost his powers is because he lost faith in himself because Garrosh called him out on his fuck ups. Though I'd be amenable to your version, since the last time the elements ditched someone was the draenei genocide and killing Garrosh is obviously a morally equivalent act.

[Demetrion]

Like you seem to be twisting this to shape it into your own perspective.


Thrall used the elements indeed, which was forbidden in this rite and the elements have never helped him since. I am not sure where you've been for the past 3/4 years to not understand that but thralls story ever since defeating garrosh has been about the elements abandoning him for his actions that day.

Makgora is a rite between 2 warriors, magic is forbidden. None of your delusions about sylvanas will change that fact.

The sole fact that magic is keeping Sylvanas alive disqualifies her from Mak'gora.

[MatthiasVonTzeskagrad]

Mak'gora died out after the last one was tainted by outside interferance which they all know would happen again. Sylvanas would use blight in the fight almost certainley if she was about to lose. Her banshee abilities are forbidden in these duels but you can guarantee she would use them too. This isn't old orc vs orc challenges of old, Mak'gora is useless if you know your opponent will cheat.



An undead belf who became warchief from some sort of deception is not "more horde" than the first warchief of the new horde, the most legendary veteran of all warcraft wars in the past 30 years who was former right hand to aforementioned warchief and possibly soon to be future warchief. Both thrall and saurfang are "mr horde" in their own rights



Nathanos was hiding behind the throne whispering to Vol'jin so his little dead wifu could run the show

You know cheating in a Mak'gora makes you automatically unfit to rule, right? And that you can apply rules to it, right?
If a Mak'gora happened, would most surely include watchers, keepers, no Magathas, etc. to make sure it's a clean duel, and then you'd find Sylvanas getting opposed by the Orgrimmar population in case she did not even follow one of hordes key traditions.
Garrosh could legitly put all the blame on his assistant after all, Sylvanas would not.
Remember so far Sylvanas strategy, as it involves no mass opression because every zug zug in existence seems to be 100% ok with it, must involve some sort of theoretical appreciation of hordes traditions and symbols, wich gives her the advantage of being able to point out the lack of legitimacy of her actual opposers, as none of them are following any of the rules of the horde or orcish culture in general in their opposition.

[Arrashi]

That means that saurfang is officially potential-bound now.

[Houle]

Sylvanas is the Warchief, you can't get any more Horde than that

Checkmate, dickface

[Infraction]

Haha, bet you were one of those people who hated Garrosh back in the day, writing stuff like "Cant wait to kill the ugly warmongering bastard"
You know, the dude who was rightfully appointed as warchief, not like Sylvanas, who was appointed because some powerful death entity made Vol'jin inattentive to have him die, and then whispered to him in disguise to appoint someone he never trusted before.


Edit: Damn, just writing how Sylvanas became warchief makes me laugh, blizz-lore at its finest.

[MikeBogina]

It means Saurfang, Baine and Thrall are all Alliance boys now.

[SaneOstrich]

That three traitors will fight against the Horde.

Where do I sign-up?

[tromage2]

Where do I sign-up?

Alliance ---> that way

[Feanoro]

Just means the alliance is supposed to simply forget the horde burned down Teldrassil and almost wiped out the night elves.

You say that like half their customers matter beyond being a plot device/HKs for the other half.

[Redwyrm]

Just remember that this is in no way Garrosh 2.0 (winkwink)

[DatToffer]

This means that we're about to get soooooooooooooooooooome

[RangerDaz]

This. Specifically at 2:26 onward.

In all the disaster which is the story of this war campaign, we are gifted with these small wonders that Blizzard animation and cinematic departments make for us.

Please blizzard, don't lose your art, cinematic and music genies ... ever. They are brilliant. Even months after its release, this cinematic still gives me chills.

[Shadowsgrace]

Garrosh only cared about orcs

And goblins... He knew, and I'm quoting this, "They have their uses." That's why they were allowed all over Org, while Tuarens and Trolls were relegated to their "zones" and heavily guarded.

[Deventh]

That three traitors will fight against the Horde.

Pretty much what he said. Story is garbage, Writers shouldn't write anything else in their lives.