AMD 3000 reviews are out

[Temp name]

Aand they're looking quite good. They aren't beating intel in everything, but they're all more than capable of driving anything you'd want to drive anyway
GN reviewed the 3600 here: https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreview...marks-vs-intel (video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AbNeht4tAE)
LMG did the 3900x and 3700x here: https://youtu.be/z3aEv3EzMyQ
Der8aur did an overclocking specific video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXbCdGENp5I
KitGuruTech did a 3900x and 3700x like LMG here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBvbw7ps-sA
Guru3d did a written review of 3700x and 3900x here: https://www.guru3d.com/articles-page...-review,1.html
Techpowerup did a review for the 3700x here: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/a...-3700x/21.html and the 3900x here: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-3900x/
BitWit did a video review of the 3900x and 3700x here: https://youtu.be/QZAqV6yo2vo
Tech Deals did a video on the 3600x here: https://youtu.be/n0uB17Io2is
Paul's Hardware did a video on the 3700x and 3900x here: https://youtu.be/hUPBDzrpTdw
Level1tech did a video on the 3700x and 3900x here: https://youtu.be/98TO2KM30o0 (Also includes the 5700 and 5700xt)

We're also starting to see Ryzen 3200g and 3400g's get reviewed, though it's from smaller channels:
https://youtu.be/PXdOMMqbLvI
https://youtu.be/GpTSXDeIVro
https://youtu.be/0jqIOQYkTPw (GTA V specific)

[Shockzalot]

I'm contemplating trading my 2700 off for a 3700x as I verified by MOBO is compatible with the new chip sets, I may wait for price decreases a year down the road, not quite sure yet. These 3rd gen CPUs will continue cutting into Intel's sales. Intel fanboys refuse to acknowledge that AMD doubled Intel's sales with the 2nd Gen Ryzen CPU throughout the last year. The cost is the biggest sell point, why pay an extra $150 for an Intel CPU to be 1-2% faster in some areas? The 3950X is already shattering overclocking records. AMD's resurgence is the best thing that could happen to the CPU market, the greedy Intel bastards will seriously have to consider lowering their prices dramatically to compete.

https://www.extremetech.com/computin...opean-retailer

[Temp name]

Intel fanboys refuse to acknowledge that AMD doubled Intel's sales with the 2nd Gen Ryzen CPU throughout the last year.

Only in DIY, not total sales. But AMD are eating into their market share, which is good.

Also, I wouldn't really recommend going 2700 > 3700x unless you have something that would benefit a lot from it, which I kinda doubt

[Ballistic]

I watched buildzoid video of x570 mobos vs previous generations and he explained clearly there are no justification whatsoever ever to pick any of these mobos other than pcie gen 4, with that matter settled I'm still torn out between 3900 and 3700 in terms of workload and gaming. I might wait until Christmas they might be deals for both of them to choose one.

But in general pretty exciting reviews and all suggested AMD over intel.

[Nozuka]

Has anyone seen a WoW test yet?

[Temp name]

Has anyone seen a WoW test yet?

Not yet, will probably have to wait until it's in the hand of more people, since I don't think any big reviewers use it as a benchmark

But in general pretty exciting reviews and all suggested AMD over intel.

Unless you need every last fps you can in games. Which is no one.

[Fascinate]

Has anyone seen a WoW test yet?

No but it will be bad, AMD cannot hang with overclocked intel chips in mmo's.

[Biernot]

No but it will be bad, AMD cannot hang with overclocked intel chips in mmo's.

Actually with the 3000 Generation they might be able to. The (stock) 3700X is nearly on par with the (stock) 9900K in synthetic benchmarks, as in 1-5% behind (while costing $150 less). As of now, i have no information on how the new AMD chips are overclocking, but that should be available soon'ish.

[Fascinate]

Actually with the 3000 Generation they might be able to. The (stock) 3700X is nearly on par with the (stock) 9900K in synthetic benchmarks, as in 1-5% behind (while costing $150 less). As of now, i have no information on how the new AMD chips are overclocking, but that should be available soon'ish.

That's not a real world game like WoW, trust me ive tested these things and AMD cannot hang in mmo's.

[Dotality]

Games are still not optimised for more than 8 threads, meaning performance can only swing in amds favor.

[Fascinate]

Games are still not optimised for more than 8 threads, meaning performance can only swing in amds favor.

Not really true anymore now that intel has 6c i5's, this was very true in 2017 tho. We really wont know fully tho til after the next gen consoles release and how much cpu power can be put to use for console ports.

[Dotality]

It really is, i believed it improved, but it went from 4 to 8 threads. Seeing multiple reviews and realising that 9700k is outperforming 9900k, and even disabling hyperthreading on amd chips improves performance in multiple games, that leads to me to believe that there is still alot to be done to improve scheduling for 16+ threads.

[Wermys]

Has anyone seen a WoW test yet?

I'll test it later tonight.

[Remilia]

Does pretty well in FFXIV.




https://www.4gamer.net/games/446/G044684/20190705008/

[Fascinate]

Id have to see that first hand to believe it, my 8700k decimated my 1700 in the stormblood benchmark.

Just to be clear i fully understand a 3700x isnt a 1700, but my 8700k was sooo far ahead of the 1700 i seriously doubt that a 3700x got within 4 fps of a 9900k.

[Temp name]

Id have to see that first hand to believe it, my 8700k decimated my 1700 in the stormblood benchmark.

Just to be clear i fully understand a 3700x isnt a 1700, but my 8700k was sooo far ahead of the 1700 i seriously doubt that a 3700x got within 4 fps of a 9900k.

Because Intel haven't improved their IPC much if at all since the 8700k, and AMD has improved theirs massively. The 3700x runs much faster than the 1700, and the game probably doesn't take advantage of many cores (As you can see from the 3900x and 37000x being functionally tied)

[Fascinate]

Because Intel haven't improved their IPC much if at all since the 8700k, and AMD has improved theirs massively. The 3700x runs much faster than the 1700, and the game probably doesn't take advantage of many cores (As you can see from the 3900x and 37000x being functionally tied)

Bro im not an idiot lol, of course i understand the IPC gains. What im saying is in my testing the 8700k was LEAPS AND BOUNDS ahead of the 1700 in ffxiv, not only in the benchmark but in actual gameplay. The 3700x being THAT CLOSE to the 9900k is not something i believe for ffxiv, and id need to see it first hand to believe it. My guess is the testing was completely GPU bound and if i had these two systems in my possession i could absolutely show a much larger lead for intel in CPU bound situations for the game.

[Temp name]

Bro im not an idiot lol, of course i understand the IPC gains. What im saying is in my testing the 8700k was LEAPS AND BOUNDS ahead of the 1700 in ffxiv, not only in the benchmark but in actual gameplay. The 3700x being THAT CLOSE to the 9900k is not something i believe for ffxiv, and id need to see it first hand to believe it. My guess is the testing was completely GPU bound and if i had these two systems in my possession i could absolutely show a much larger lead for intel in CPU bound situations for the game.

You said yourself that the 8700k did ~30% better than the 1700. Looking at some benchmarks we can see that the 3600 is ~30% better than the 1700. Ergo, it's within spitting distance of the 8700k, which is clock for clock identical to the 9900k in any game that doesn't leverage the extra cores or threads

[Fascinate]

You said yourself that the 8700k did ~30% better than the 1700. Looking at some benchmarks we can see that the 3600 is ~30% better than the 1700. Ergo, it's within spitting distance of the 8700k, which is clock for clock identical to the 9900k in any game that doesn't leverage the extra cores or threads

Nah its more like 20% (first to second gen ryzen was 5% tops), also the reason this is hard to believe is because the 9900k has a much higher stock boost clock than my 8700k, i think its like 4.7ghz.

[Dacien]

I primarily game on my PC, but it's nice to have a CPU that is a non-gaming powerhouse in addition to that. I think it's a fair trade for a few FPS to have a top-notch CPU for non-gaming tasks.