Vertigo12's WILD THEORIES ep 5: Sargeras was aiming for an Old God....

[vertigo12]

YOGG SARON AND CTHUN ARE STILL ALIVE: that’s right people, they are. Still imprisoned in their respective prisons. If you don’t remember, in Legion and early BfA we ran into both of them again! Maybe not C’thun exactly, but definitely Yogg. In Legion we get a quest with Magni to explore Ulduar because of some disturbances again. Turns out YOGG SARON IS STILL ACTIVE IN THERE! Confirmed by Magni himself. Also if you’ve been living under a rock, you might’ve missed the giant sword going into silithus exposing the powerful azerite just waiting for SOMEONE to soak it up. Coincidence? I THINK NOT!

Or Sargeras was trying to stab C'thun because he knows every intel about the OG, we just screwed up his perfect aim and bulleye target C'thun when we zapped him back to his bleachers. Stabbing him was his last ditch effort.

He was entirely present the whole time we started playing Vanilla WoW and even before that as seen on the in-game map.



The same cosmic cloud seen from SotP


After the defeat of Argus:


He knew about the old gods first hand before other Pantheon did.

He has an idea about several targets of the void lords thanks to the Nathrezim, which would be our next episode so watch out!

He was trying to ressurect Argus who allegedly was a dead titan because he is a titan of death! Fel, Death and lastly no titan for shadows yet...should this be Azeroth or perhaps Elune?

[Goldfingaz]

They aren't, and he wasn't aiming for an old God. His goal was to kill Azeroth. That's kind of his shtick.

[Kathandira]

Or Sargeras was trying to stab C'thun because he knows every intel about the OG, we just screwed up his perfect aim and bulleye target C'thun when we zapped him back to his bleachers. Stabbing him was his last ditch effort.

He was entirely present the whole time we started playing Vanilla WoW and even before that as seen on the in-game map.

He knew about the old gods first hand before other Pantheon did.

He has an idea about several targets of the void lords thanks to the Nathrezim, which would be our next episode so watch out!

He was trying to ressurect Argus who allegedly was a dead titan because he is a titan of death! Fel, Death and lastly no titan for shadows yet...should this be Azeroth or perhaps Elune?

The old god s are dead, except for N'Zoth. And Sargaras was absolutely aiming for the World Soul of Azeroth. She is Sargaras's greatest threat as she is supposed to be the strongest Titan ever.

[Ooid]

Assuming her heart chamber is in Silithus he was aiming for her. Now if it is there it makes where C’thun set up shop very interesting.

[Briselody]

The old god s are dead, except for N'Zoth. And Sargaras was absolutely aiming for the World Soul of Azeroth. She is Sargaras's greatest threat as she is supposed to be the strongest Titan ever.

The Old Gods are definitely not dead. And if he just wanted Azeroth dead I'm not sure why he spent the entire Antorus raid wafting around her backside in his cosmic fart cloud. The stabbing did feel like a last ditch effort, but it does make you wonder what he was trying to do before he got tractor beamed.

[Traveler Voltin]

The Old Gods are definitely not dead. And if he just wanted Azeroth dead I'm not sure why he spent the entire Antorus raid wafting around her backside in his cosmic fart cloud. The stabbing did feel like a last ditch effort, but it does make you wonder what he was trying to do before he got tractor beamed.

they are 100% dead.

[Skulltaker]

Assuming her heart chamber is in Silithus he was aiming for her. Now if it is there it makes where C’thun set up shop very interesting.

He aimed for Silithus because there's nothing there players would miss =)

[Triceron]

Imagine if the Legion was actually the misunderstood anti-heroes of the game.

WC3 was all a misunderstanding. Archimonde was actually trying to save the universe all this time, he was ridding the Old-God that was hiding in the World Tree. He already got rid of the missing 5th Old God that was hiding in Dalaran. Those pesky mortals just got in his way!

[Briselody]

they are 100% dead.

There's Twilight cultists in Silithus hearing whispers. We went to Ulduar in an HoA quest and saw Old God minions active. The mantid have a new queen and are clearly swarming again. This implies that C'thun and Yogg are still alive in some way, and Y'shaarj was literally pulled out of the planet with just its heart left and still managed to influence Pandaria. Blizzard has confirmed that what we've killed has just been avatars, little pimples sticking out of the actual Old God face.

They are not in any way dead.

[Arakakao]

they are 100% dead.

"They don't live, they don't die, they're outside the cycle".

[huth]

There's Twilight cultists in Silithus hearing whispers.

So? You could hear Y'shaarj whisper, and he has been confirmed dead for over ten millenia.

[Varitok]

The old god s are dead, except for N'Zoth. And Sargaras was absolutely aiming for the World Soul of Azeroth. She is Sargaras's greatest threat as she is supposed to be the strongest Titan ever.

No they aren't. What we killed wasn't them, Just manifestations of their presence. You even fight new minions of Yogg in Ulduar during a Class Hall quest I believe.

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So? You could hear Y'shaarj whisper, and he has been confirmed dead for over ten millenia.

He wasn't. His heart was still under the well in Pandaria.

[Traveler Voltin]

"They don't live, they don't die, they're outside the cycle".

quote from an old god minion. so can no be taken seriously. also blizzard has stated they are dead.

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There's Twilight cultists in Silithus hearing whispers. We went to Ulduar in an HoA quest and saw Old God minions active. The mantid have a new queen and are clearly swarming again. This implies that C'thun and Yogg are still alive in some way, and Y'shaarj was literally pulled out of the planet with just its heart left and still managed to influence Pandaria. Blizzard has confirmed that what we've killed has just been avatars, little pimples sticking out of the actual Old God face.

They are not in any way dead.

whispers dont mean jack shit. the dead can mess with the living. this has always been the case.

[Darknessvamp]

They are not in any way dead.

Blizzard has flip flopped on whether the Old Gods are dead permanently for ages now, the last official word we had was they were all dead except for N'Zoth. But it's just as likely they'll change their minds again when they feel it suits them to make another/reuse an old antagonist. The whole "______ was just a setback" all over again.

[Calfredd]

There's Twilight cultists in Silithus hearing whispers. We went to Ulduar in an HoA quest and saw Old God minions active. The mantid have a new queen and are clearly swarming again. This implies that C'thun and Yogg are still alive in some way, and Y'shaarj was literally pulled out of the planet with just its heart left and still managed to influence Pandaria. Blizzard has confirmed that what we've killed has just been avatars, little pimples sticking out of the actual Old God face.

They are not in any way dead.

The Aqir may have been created by the Old Gods but there's no kill switch in them that says if the Old God dies, it's minions fall over dead. The Mantid are proof of that.

[huth]

He wasn't. His heart was still under the well in Pandaria.

There, yes. Well, not at all. That was hazardous waste containment, not imprisonment. It also wasn't under the well, Garrosh had to move it quite a bit to drop it in.

[MrLachyG]

They aren't, and he wasn't aiming for an old God. His goal was to kill Azeroth. That's kind of his shtick.

and after thousands of years of trying, he happens to show up and get stopped before he can cleave the planet in two? I mean I get that the Universe is a big place but surely a Titan can navigate it quicker than that

[Oneirophobia]

quote from an old god minion. so can no be taken seriously

Not only are the whispers usually true they’re generally even directly on the nose.

“The king of diamonds has been made a pawn”

Gee who could that be, perhaps Gallywix? He has lots of money so mayb— “lmao mangi is our pawn, the king of diamonds, get it? Cause he’s a king and also diamond”

Gee how would we have ever have guessed, these whispers are so misleading.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

and after thousands of years of trying, he happens to show up and get stopped before he can cleave the planet in two? I mean I get that the Universe is a big place but surely a Titan can navigate it quicker than that

It would take too long and since summoning demons onto the planet is easier and such... it wastes less time. As in traveling the universe takes several years.

[TheRevenantHero]

they are 100% dead.

The devs themselves have even said they're not dead. That we only fought extensions of their true forms.