Americans say debate has grown more toxic an ‘heated’ rhetoric could lead to violence

[Mayhem]

You need to watch more than just the news networks which hate Trump. If you do not like Fox, watch BBC. Or even CBS.

His tweets are just about enough.

[szechuan]

Racists and other Right Wing Leaders trying to Muddy the waters again like Mitch McConnell trying to say it's Both Sides.

[Enthusiastic Steward]

His tweets are just about enough.

HOUSE REPUBLICANS SHOULD PASS THE STRONG BUT FAIR IMMIGRATION BILL, KNOWN AS GOODLATTE II, IN THEIR AFTERNOON VOTE TODAY, EVEN THOUGH THE DEMS WON’T LET IT PASS IN THE SENATE. PASSAGE WILL SHOW THAT WE WANT STRONG BORDERS & SECURITY WHILE THE DEMS WANT OPEN BORDERS = CRIME. WIN!

Three days later:

I never pushed the Republicans in the House to vote for the Immigration Bill, either GOODLATTE 1 or 2, because it could never have gotten enough Democrats as long as there is the 60 vote threshold. I released many prior to the vote knowing we need more Republicans to win in Nov.

What's wrong with the man's tweets?

[Ghostpanther]

BBC depends on your frame of reference. In context they are typically neutral but to a lot of Americans they view as left-leaning because western Europe in general sits left of the US.

Interesting. I should watch them and then come to my own conclusion if they are neutral. If I get the time. Only so many hours in a day and politics is not a large share of my time.

[Enthusiastic Steward]

Interesting. I should watch them and then come to my own conclusion if they are neutral. If I get the time. Only so many hours in a day and politics is not a large share of my time.

I use them for my daily headline skim because I find Fox and CNN obnoxious. If I'm really taking time to dig into something it's typically a mix of Reuters, ProPublica, and WSJ.

[Yoshingo]

HOUSE REPUBLICANS SHOULD PASS THE STRONG BUT FAIR IMMIGRATION BILL, KNOWN AS GOODLATTE II, IN THEIR AFTERNOON VOTE TODAY, EVEN THOUGH THE DEMS WON’T LET IT PASS IN THE SENATE. PASSAGE WILL SHOW THAT WE WANT STRONG BORDERS & SECURITY WHILE THE DEMS WANT OPEN BORDERS = CRIME. WIN!

Three days later:

I never pushed the Republicans in the House to vote for the Immigration Bill, either GOODLATTE 1 or 2, because it could never have gotten enough Democrats as long as there is the 60 vote threshold. I released many prior to the vote knowing we need more Republicans to win in Nov.

What's wrong with the man's tweets?

He flagrantly lies because he knows his dumbass followers don't care and will believe whatever the latest thing he says without any critical thinking.

[Enthusiastic Steward]

He flagrantly lies because he knows his dumbass followers don't care and will believe whatever the latest thing he says without any critical thinking.

But he did give all that imaginary aid money to Puerto Rico, so there's that.

[Rasulis]

Interesting. I should watch them and then come to my own conclusion if they are neutral. If I get the time. Only so many hours in a day and politics is not a large share of my time.

NPR is pretty much on the same level as BBC. They are neutral content wise. However, since 9 out of 10 of their local stations are funded and located at university campuses, they do lean left a bit. KPBS, for example, is located at CSU San Diego. I should know, 20 plus years ago I drilled through their fiber optic lines.

[Edge-]

NPR is pretty much on the same level as BBC. They are neutral content wise. However, since 9 out of 10 of their local stations are funded and located at university campuses, they do lean left a bit. KPBS, for example, is located at CSU San Diego. I should know, 20 plus years ago I drilled through their fiber optic lines.

Citation needed*

The funding they receive doesn't impact their coverage, and they call out when they're covering news related to a company that's donated to them. Outside of some post-grad business schools (hardly liberal), the majority of their funding comes from corporations/wealth families/donation funds, and listener donations. They're not relying on cash-strapped schools for funding.

[Rasulis]

Citation needed*

The funding they receive doesn't impact their coverage, and they call out when they're covering news related to a company that's donated to them. Outside of some post-grad business schools (hardly liberal), the majority of their funding comes from corporations/wealth families/donation funds, and listener donations. They're not relying on cash-strapped schools for funding.

Can't find any citation. I take it back.

[ABEEnr2]

He flagrantly lies because he knows his dumbass followers don't care and will believe whatever the latest thing he says without any critical thinking.

ofc they will, have ever argued with one of them IRL? trust me you lose like 100 brain cells a second

[Wyrt]

Largely the fault of Republicans who have become increasingly extreme in their rhetoric. You see them throwing around accusations of communist, socialist, anti-semitic, unpatriotic, support for MS13, and all kinds of other horrendous bullshit constantly.

And no, this is not just Trump. It's been happening for at least the last decade, maybe more. I remember Obama running and being constantly smeared with shit like birtherism and being called a communist.

[Yoshingo]

ofc they will, have ever argued with one of them IRL? trust me you lose like 100 brain cells a second

Yes most of my family are them.

[Gestopft]

No, they're not. Give them a listen, they make it a point to be neutral in interviews and during their shows.

I (as a regular listener) find they do a good job at neutrality in terms of reporting and interviewing, but that their content selection often fits the sensibilities of wealthy Liberals. I.E, right-wingers might feel that they lean left due to the large number of stories focusing on racial or gender inequality, the lived experiences of transgendered individuals or undocumented immigrants, etc.

[Stormspellz]

It impacts them both. But at the moment, the hatred, anti- patriotic rhetoric of some of the Democrats, is hurting them more in my opinion. Mainly them attacking the US's fundamental reputation, which some hold to be a good thing for them overall and worthy of support. Not that we have not did some injustices in the past of course. But time will prove if this is true.

what anti patriotic rhetoric? that Trump's policy are bad and border line evil? valid criticism isn't unpatriotic. Its trump who has thrown the countries reputation out the window on nearly every front.

Not every American buys into that conspiracy theory.

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You need to watch more than just the news networks which hate Trump. If you do not like Fox, watch BBC. Or even CBS.

[Noxx79]

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You need to watch more than just the news networks which hate Trump. If you do not like Fox, watch BBC. Or even CBS.

Not everyone buys into THAT conspiracy theory,

[Blur4stuff]

Lead to violence? Right wing extremists have already committed acts of violence including murder.

[Ghostpanther]

Letting the collective be overrun by private and malicious foreign interests (again because of private interests), or even supporting politicians doing that, is very close to treason and a form of unethical behavior in my book.

How would you have felt about someone in the US defending Hitler's policies and agenda during WW2 ? Or someone defending ISIS' ideology?
You might think this is an absurd comparison, because republicans live in their own bubble, but that is how it comes across to many people nowadays.

Almost leaving your opponents no choice but to dehumanize you and to consider you a criminal.

And then people wonder why debate might've grown toxic, when one side is literally going: "Hey look at us being criminals and unethical human beings, but our corrupt politicians and government let's us, and our fucked up misinformation media explains it's all just a conspiracy theory, so it's okay!"

I would not like it of course. But that is not the case. :P

[jeezusisacasual]

The difference being that History means nothing to me in a globalized world. Being proud of where you are from means almost nothing also assuming you have the skill set to up and move when need be. The problem with alot of people on the right is that they have a romanticized vision of what they think America is or was where as the Left looks at it as ashamed of its past.

Also like in my family we only thank veterans of Vietnam mostly due to my dad serving but also because alot of them had no choice to go after that people chose to run off and die not by force. I have got into some real arguments with people whom i refused to thank for their service and told them they are just doing a job no different then being a cashier and yet those conversations almost came to blows. Respect is earned and just having respect for where you are born or some fake ideal is stupid, actions matter not some faint belief system.

[Wyrt]

The difference being that History means nothing to me in a globalized world. Being proud of where you are from means almost nothing also assuming you have the skill set to up and move when need be. The problem with alot of people on the right is that they have a romanticized vision of what they think America is or was where as the Left looks at it as ashamed of its past.

Also like in my family we only thank veterans of Vietnam mostly due to my dad serving but also because alot of them had no choice to go after that people chose to run off and die not by force. I have got into some real arguments with people whom i refused to thank for their service and told them they are just doing a job no different then being a cashier and yet those conversations almost came to blows. Respect is earned and just having respect for where you are born or some fake ideal is stupid, actions matter not some faint belief system.

HOW DARE YOU!? They are fighting for our freedom!!!!111!!!!11!!!!!!1

Please ignore that the US military has not fought for US freedom since WW2.