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2014 Gamergate: "If you want games without hyper sexualized female characters and representation, then learn to code!"
2023: "What's with all these massively successful games with ugly (realistic) women? How could this have happened?!"
According to me, it was always fair since even before the negotiation it was above that area's minimum wage.
Before he was giving them $36000 per year, for working 60hours /week. Which was not fair according to himself.
He is paying them fairly now, for his own standards, after the negotiations.
and the geek shall inherit the earth
Welcome to America (and several other countries). Where if you have a "salary" you can't get any a higher amount a month no matter what. Meanwhile in Sweden, any pay you get is a "baseline" payment. And if you then work nights you get an additional amount of money per hour worked depending on some things (like, night before a big holiday is higher than a regular night). Etc
Meanwhile in lots of places, a Salary is a set payment no matter what. Which is... dumb.
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Spiking minimum wage that much would actually have major negative short term repercussions. The minimum wage went from like $11.50 to $15 here in Ontario and all of a sudden a whole slew of people were losing their jobs and being replaced with basic automation. The people who still had jobs were being expected to do more work as well. So it's not really all that simple. They should be aiming to have a higher federal minimum wage of like $10 and grow it to $15 in 5 years.
Thanks for the reply. So they where getting less than $15 per hour and now are getting more. So for a while he was not practicing what he preached. I would think the Union would want them to get back pay and he shouldn't have objected, since they where getting less than he thinks workers should get.
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“ The Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to - prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms..” - Samuel Adams
*Shrugs* The thread has a clickbait title to it, and I'm not sure how hands-on Bernie is about his campaign, his campaign manager could have been making them do all that overtime without pay and it was later brought to his attention. Either way, it seems the Union is negotiating for even more pay in the future, since they probably will have to work even more overtime in the future as the campaign season gets more rigorous and overtime likely inevitable. Seeing that there's a problem, and fixing it, is practicing what he preaches. The issue was quickly resolved. The most I see from conservatives is stall any action by blaming other people, blaming the union, getting stuck in negotiations, etc. as long as possible.
The Trump campaign still has yet to pay back any of the debt it owes. Remember when Trump said he funded his own campaign? It was mostly from loans that he has yet to return a penny of. I have to wonder how many of his workers aren't paid, and run off pure zeal for the lord Trump.
2014 Gamergate: "If you want games without hyper sexualized female characters and representation, then learn to code!"
2023: "What's with all these massively successful games with ugly (realistic) women? How could this have happened?!"
" If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher.." - Abraham Lincoln
“ The Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to - prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms..” - Samuel Adams
I worked salary and was not paid any extra for any hours below 48 a week. Only when it hit 48+, did I get overtime pay. Even then, I had a choice of ether OT or comp time. Then again, I had no sick leave, but could take off however much time I needed for medical reasons if documented by a doctor ( if it was for a extended amount of time ) and not lose any pay. If I needed to leave early one day, I also was not charged any leave and lost no pay.
So I think it depends on what other benefits one gets before it is a issue anyway. Not sure why they are paying part time workers a salary however. Normally, part time workers are paid by the hour here.
" If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher.." - Abraham Lincoln
“ The Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to - prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms..” - Samuel Adams
Workers salaried under $23,660 year are considered non-exempt employees and overtime is required for them.
There is no requirement that workers earning more than that be paid overtime. See here for a quick summary of recent regulatory changes.
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I know a lot of people responded, but ‘why isn’t it XX’ isn’t actually a counter to the 15$ that passed the house. That’s an exaggeration and isn’t representative of the opposing argument.
The actual counter argument is; why isn’t it 0? If the increase is arbitrary, why isn’t the current number arbitrary and why can’t it be lower? After all, every argument against the minimum wage increase, works in reverse. If increasing minimum wage will decrease employment and increase prices... why aren’t you arguing for lowering the minimum wage, to increase employment and lower prices?
It kinda feels like a scam, if you don’t argue to lower the minimum wage, to improve everything a higher minimum wage hurts.
Edit: If a higher minimum wage hurts America, wouldn’t MAGA mean taking US to a time before the minimum wage? Why don’t opponents of minimum wage increase, argue for lowering it, instead of exaggeration it to be higher?
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Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Shilling for Bernie for $15/hour is a pretty sad existence. I wonder if that's what they were dreaming of doing with their poli sci degrees.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi