Oh, it's way worse than that.
Team Trump is taking to the airwaves to deny that Trump is downplaying domestic terrorist racist violence. To give Mulvaney some credit, he managed to dodge the "Trump defended Nazis" question.
Now Trump is obviously trying to get out from under this, which will take a lot of work for his fat ass, because he buried himself deep. Yes, he tweeted thoughts and prayers. He also said he'd offer the full weight of the federal government, which would have been useful, if either shooter had managed to stay free more than a few minutes (the Dayton shooter was killed by police on patrol, and the El Paso shooter surrendered to local police).
The day that Trump actually makes a campaign promise to root out, reduce or otherwise attack domestic terrorism, maybe his words will sound less hollow. But until then, there are fine people on many sides who will point out "Trump cut the Countering Violent Extremism programs deliberately set up to handle Nazis on American soil" and they will be correct.
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Which is doubly appropriate, as Trump is negotiating with the actual Taliban. But the details are in another thread.
The idea that "white people" are being "replaced" is white supremacist fearmongering. No one believes that bullshit without being a white supremacist.
So yes; it's wrong. Not only is it entirely non-factual in any sense whatsoever, it's also predicated on hateful intolerance of non-whites, and nothing deeper or more complex than that.
Ofocurse they praise him because it is as close to a political win as they've gotten. I doubt his existence gave rise to their opinions.
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It sounds a bit like arguing that "If not for Trump" I'd have green hair, a premium snapchat and be a hardcore feminist, but I heard Trump talk and am now super right-wing."
On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.
And remember she totes does not like the GOP and the establishment........except when vehemently defending them. Trump has gone out of his way to coddle extremists see Charlottesville, he also cuts funding and any action against them as well as retweeting them and spouting their rhetoric. You have to be a truly blind person not to see the connection between his actions and this surge in violence but that's what happens when you are a "independent" voter.
It's deeper than this, though. They won't "nod and approve" of the shooter's actions, but they will shake their heads and say they understand why he felt he had to take action, or the like (no quotes used because I'm paraphrasing things others have said, but could easily grab specific examples of if I needed to). They'll agree that his manifesto and motivation for action was "correct", and just try and disagree with the specific action taken.
Often, while also muttering that there's a civil war coming because the oppressed right wing (that's currently in power, natch) isn't gonna take this forever. Which is just a promise that they're going to start murdering people in the future, and a lot of others will, too. Really, anyone making this argument is just arguing about timing, not whether or not it's okay to murder for this cause.
On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.
White folks aren't being replaced, white folks due to failing economic policies among others often by right wing but not exclusively although republicans have been historically time and time again the worst for the working and middle class, they simply are having less kids.
Want white folks to have more white babies again? Offer incentives, get decent parental leave and not an US culture that punishes people for having kids, get decent healthcare for yourself and your family, get a decent income at the cost of corporate profits.
But instead the republicans prefer to blame coloured people, what is normal considering that's what they have been doing the last 50 years or so, create campaigns based on fear and anger.
Man it is so strange that all these independent voters always seem to agree and defend Trump and the Republicans while always arguing against and denouncing the Democrats. Also whenever it is something bad Trump or the GOP does then they always come out and cry about both sides but whenever Democrats or a single Democrat does something bad then they gleefully come out say to look at the Democrats failure or look at how bad the Democrats are. It is almost like they are nothing but Trumpsters who fail miserably at pretending to be fair minded.
https://twitter.com/existentialfish/...125572102?s=19Kevin McCarthy, the GOP House minority leader, also tells Fox News that video games are the problem following the mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton. https://t.co/w7DmlJ9O1K
They already deflecting. I guess Texas Lt. Governor stated the same.
Governor of Texas gave the obligatory 'This is no time for politics'.
Democrats are the best! I will never ever question a Democrat again. I LOVE the Democrats!
We are getting nothing more then usual crap from Republicans and Conservative talking heads. Video games are to blame, it was nothing more then a lone wolf, there is no connection to any current political party or rhetoric of a current Cheetos colored government official, the shooter is clearly mentally unstable, don't politicize the dead, it is too soon, we have tried everything and nothing more can be done, #thoughtsandprayers.
Stop being disengenious. I said group psycology and pointed to how people who hold extreme views will seek confirmation from behavior with others. Say, people who hit their spouces will see comedy about it and take that as acceptance of spousal abuse, and not get that it's an inditement of it.
So if you have people on the fringe in ideas, and then add authority figures saying things that mirror their beliefs they will take it that "my thoughts are common, if I act on it people will like it". Or "I'll just do what everyone wants to do". Which stems from "I'm just doing what everyone is doing"/"Everyone thinks like this". Which is what I was pointing towards. Trump sprouting the shit Trump's been sprouting for 40 years from the POTUS' podium enables that sort of thinking.
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When I was in Junior High, I read the book called Helter Skelter. It was about Charlie Manson. It described how Charlie Manson tried to start a race war by painting black panther signs at the murder scenes. He thought he could hide the Manson family which consisted of young hippy kids that had run away to San Francisco in a cave while the race war took place. Charlie Manson then thought he could emerge from the cave, that the black people would have won the race war and would want him to lead because he was white. It's funny how the lunacy of Charlie Manson sounds similar to what you see lunatics like the ones in the El Paso and Dayton Ohio shootings.
It sounds a bit like the belief that if kids see their parents smoking they will smoke; as if the endorsement of a vaunted important authority was the key factor, but in reality it was actually just if their friends smoked or not. Kind of how children speak with an accent and dialect akin to the peer group, not akin to their parents.
Fringe ideas are not really empowered by Trump; they are empowered mainly by people being able to collaborate and discuss them.
Right-Wing violence is IMHO a frustration because a lot of mainly White Conservatives don't get that electoral wins don't really matter. They think winning an election can get border and immigration policy they want or leaving the EU for that matter. When really the power lay with the Administrative State and in that generic Liberals (Not to be confused with Leftists) intuitively understand this and are better and weilding power.
On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.
Natives did not fear white people would replace them. They feared them wiping them out.
Natives often would accept Europeans and mix with them. If we note the first major issue between the Spanish and natives they found, the issue was that the Spanish kept attacking the Natives and the Natives fought back which the Spanish used to wage a "legal war" and under the law allowed them to subjugate natives and make them slaves as they framed it as a "defense" even though they attacked first.
Up until about the 16th century the idea of race was very different from what it is today, strong ideas around race and classes did not come about until whites and blacks joined together in America, this rebellion made the slavers change things to make whites always superior to blacks even when they were poor and didn't get what they were promised, that cut down on rebellion were both races worked together. That you could consider being the start of white supremacy in America.