Trump wants the US to buy Greenland.

[Pengekaer]

Greenland can declare independence and cash in 200 billion dollars.

Where does the 200 billion dollars even come from? Did you pull that number from your rear-end?

Fuck it, denmark's entire gdp is 324.9 billions dollars, the US should offer that just to spite

That number is getting old. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator...=DK&view=chart

send in some aircraft carriers to secure the independence of Greenland.

Yes, we can all be sure it is a sound, independent decision made by the locals when the warships are coming. Why would you even send aircraft carriers to Greenland? Who are said carriers to be targeting? What would an aircraft carrier even do in a sea-area that is mostly sailed by civilian vessels like fishing-boats, freighters and research vessels? You dont strike me as a learned person or as anyone who even has an idea what a carrier does, honestly i guess few people know in exact terms, but you sure dont know where to even start.

[Kraenen]

They bought Alaska from the Russians, turned out to be a decent purchase. Not sure why this is automatically a bad idea.

[Thekri]

Yes, we can all be sure it is a sound, independent decision made by the locals when the warships are coming. Why would you even send aircraft carriers to Greenland? Who are said carriers to be targeting? What would an aircraft carrier even do in a sea-area that is mostly sailed by civilian vessels like fishing-boats, freighters and research vessels? You dont strike me as a learned person or as anyone who even has an idea what a carrier does, honestly i guess few people know in exact terms, but you sure dont know where to even start.

To be fair, he has said he is joking about all this. The US already has Thule Air Force base in Greenland, which is more capable at operating aircraft then our aircraft carriers anyway.

[JohnBrown1917]

They bought Alaska from the Russians, turned out to be a decent purchase. Not sure why this is automatically a bad idea.

Alaska is not its own country, and never was.

[Pengekaer]

To be fair, he has said he is joking about all this. The US already has Thule Air Force base in Greenland, which is more capable at operating aircraft then our aircraft carriers anyway.

This is an american sort of Tennis-ace, so it isnt always easy to know. Havent read all posts of his drivel since they are not that interesting imo so if he ever made clear that it is just a joke, then i havent found it. But many people who think along such militaristic lines are regrettably not joking as I have learned.

[Dontrike]

Seems like just bouncing an idea off of advisors, not an actual plan or proposal. Am I missing something?

Buying what is essentially a small country isn't "bouncing an idea", no sane person would propose that, considering that it would easily cost several trillion to do so. If this president can't figure out infrastructure, healthcare, tariffs, or anything else that cost us money then why in the fuck would he even try to suggest this?

[jeezusisacasual]

I like the idea if it is proven to have a large enough natural resource to manipulate for our domestic gain. Now will it happen? I doubt it as i think if Russia knew what they know not Alaska would not have been sold either.

[Dontrike]

It would fucking rule if we did that. 200 billion dollars is like a 100 years their gdp. Their population is 55k, so they cant really oppose.

You don't buy it based off of GDP or population, you'd have to account for the land itself, resources, and other shit like that which would increase the cost. It would easily cost a trillion, if not a few trillion, at minimum.

[Stormspark]

When you math out the 2% cash back on any purchase, it's a lot more appealing

I get 5% back on Amazon purchases. Maybe we can get Amazon to sell it...

[zealo]

I like the idea if it is proven to have a large enough natural resource to manipulate for our domestic gain. Now will it happen? I doubt it as i think if Russia knew what they know not Alaska would not have been sold either.

Whether there was resources or not in Alaska wasn't the only reason for why the Russians decided to sell it off to America when they did. They were also afraid that they wouldn't be able to hold onto it if they ended up at war with the British again.

[Celista]

Damn it...

*Sadly cancels visa and citizenship application to Denmark*

Haha. I'm sad too.

They bought Alaska from the Russians, turned out to be a decent purchase. Not sure why this is automatically a bad idea.

We're several trillion dollars in debt, land is expensive now and globally we have mostly moved on from buying and selling entire countries/territories. It is disruptive to the people who live there and can undermine democratic processes and autonomy if they don't vote for it themselves.

It is interesting that, as another poster noted, we have attempted to buy Greenland more than once now. @Thekri your reply post was really interesting, thanks.

[Felya]

They bought Alaska from the Russians, turned out to be a decent purchase. Not sure why this is automatically a bad idea.

Alaska was pretty much an uninhabited nowhere land at the time. Seward's Icebox...

[Blur4stuff]

The idea of controlling Greenland isn't bad at all, obviously. It's probably going to be incredibly valuable later this century as the planet roasts.

The reason why this is complete idiocy and makes Trump look like a dolt has been pointed out in this very thread multiple times and in greater detail elsewhere over the past few days.

It's more clear now than ever that Trump is slipping mentally. It's like your old uncle or grandfather that isn't quite there anymore and yells out some whacky shit while watching TV.

[Spectral]

Buying what is essentially a small country isn't "bouncing an idea", no sane person would propose that, considering that it would easily cost several trillion to do so. If this president can't figure out infrastructure, healthcare, tariffs, or anything else that cost us money then why in the fuck would he even try to suggest this?

I have no idea what the going rate is for a country with 50,000 people and middle of the road GDP per capita. I suppose it would mostly be priced based on the potential for resources, so you'd basically be trying to figure out if it would be worth buying the resources or not.

It's a pretty hare brained idea, but still quite a lot less stupid than helping topple Libya for no apparent reason, invading and occupying Iraq for a couple decades with no discernible impact, or just giving Israel a few billion a year in perpetuity. Those are all pretty stupid ideas that our perpetually stupid foreign policy apparatus nods at seriously. I would unironically rather have some idiot ask if Greenland would be a good purchase than trying to shoehorn "democracy" into another MENA country. As far as dumb American policy ideas go, this barely bares mentioning.

[Xeones]

by buying a land extremely reach in very rare resources?? And Uranium?? hmmmm It reminds me of AOC cohorts when they were askt a question if they understand what profit is ...

Are you for real?

I'm not calling him an idiot by questioning the value of the land.

[smityx]

Less than 60,000 people live in Greenland, so good luck

With that said I don't know their political leanings, BUT clearly they need statehood and 2 senators ASAP.

I know very little of Greenland except what I've seen on TV and it seems very uninhabitable except a few spots on the coast. I watched a show about gold mining (prospecting) there and they just ended up wasting money and their time. I'm not even sure if they proved their deposits even had gold worth mining.

Trump's legacy is giving tax cuts to the rich. Arming Saudi Arabia, Iran with nuclear weapons while allowing North Korea to expand their current capabilities. Losing a trade war with China. And depending on how badly he gets beat in 2020, potentially ushering in the age of the United Socialist Society of America (USSA).

Its not about living there it's about the oil thats there. possibly the largest remaining oil reserves in the world. Also access to the arctic seas oil that Russia is wanting to get at. Not to mention the military strategicness of the place.

[Breccia]

"And Iceland will pay for it"?

All kidding aside, Trump proving he's incompetent in the third year of his term is getting kind of old. I'm saving the A-material for when he attacks Iran. But the idea is kind of moot. A stable business' value is roughly ten times its annual profits. Greenland has a GDP of 2.7 billion, so, $27 billion dollars.

This is well more than Trump said his Wall would cost, and far more than he got for it -- even after shutting down the government.

And there is a zero percent chance he'll be allowed to buy Greenland because National Security Lol. He will need Congress. Who won't approve.

Greenland could be waving a bill of sale with a big X next to the signature line in our direction, and Trump couldn't do a thing about it.

[Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang]

Looks like no one is selling besides Greenland has much better standard living than the US, I doubt they want to live by US standards. This is just Trump wanting more white people as US citizens.

The population of Greenland is mostly inuit, there are very few europeans.

Now one thing to consider, is that with the addition of Greenland's 2 million sqkm, the US would become the 2nd largest country in land area before Canada. To beat Russia at No 1, they'd have to absorb Canada tough...

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It's a big master plan, first they bought Alaska, now they want to buy Greenland, then they will try and buy the north pole from Santa and BOOM: Canada is now a small country located inside the USA and must be absorbed xD

See above.

Also as mentioned by others, Greenland is aiming at independance and got a referendum scheduled on it.
The local government, from what I have read, is keen on developing agriculture and mineral resources, especially since the traditional seal hunting livelyhood of the inuit majority was destroyed by Greenpeace, and a lot depend on subsidies from Denmark and are plagued by social problems. And very recently there were clashes with Greepeace regarding oil rigs.

They most likely do not have any love for the EU too, given that a few years ago it enacted a ban on seal products.

Depending on the salesman's skills, a semi-Texas scenario could be possible, with Greenland accepting the independance referendum, becoming and independant country before being offered and accepting joining the Union as a full State.

[TwistedSkull]

The USA's social safety net is not up to par... Unless that changes the odds of greenland selling is very low...

[Draco-Onis]

Damn it...

*Sadly cancels visa and citizenship application to Denmark*

roflmao #Danishmillionaire