No Worgen/Goblin Heritage Armor in 8.2.5, Free T-Shirt Day, Spirit of Eche'ro

[Kayze]

You're making assumptions. Being told "we're planning on" or "we're thinking of doing" is not a promise or a commitment. Remember the "Ghostcrawler promised me a pony" meme? It exists for a reason.

Except there was no "thinking" or "planned", it was definitive. This is the exact quote:

Goblin and Worgen fans will be pleased to hear that the long-awaited model update for each will be arriving in a future content patch.

“Shortly after Rise of Azshara, you’ll see that,” Morgan explained. “These are the two races that haven’t been updated. They’ll have new heritage armor with that as well.”

Sure, "with" could mean at the same time (the implied meaning) or in succession of and "that" doesn't have to mean the models' release itself but to the update in general. So, they could be delivering this in 8.3, and could even include a bigger event with the Gilneas hints we've seen. But to say it was communicated as anything but definitive is just blind, uninformed fanboyism at work. If you actually cared to be objective, you'd check before stating otherwise.

I personally am fine with it being delayed (though upset if it was then shelved permanently). I'd rather have the new models get more attention with revisions and the patch be delivered faster. Unfortunately there's people that cling to anything negative from Blizzard as an excuse to either just blindly hate or defend.

[cparle87]

Except there was no "thinking" or "planned", it was definitive. This is the exact quote:



Sure, "with" could mean at the same time (the implied meaning) or in succession of and "that" doesn't have to mean the models' release itself but to the update in general. So, they could be delivering this in 8.3, and could even include a bigger event with the Gilneas hints we've seen. But to say it was communicated as anything but definitive is just blind, uninformed fanboyism at work. If you actually cared to be objective, you'd check before stating otherwise.

I personally am fine with it being delayed (though upset if it was then shelved permanently). I'd rather have the new models get more attention with revisions and the patch be delivered faster. Unfortunately there's people that cling to anything negative from Blizzard as an excuse to either just blindly hate or defend.

"Shortly after the Rise of Azshara... in a future content patch" They did NOT say 8.2.5. YOU assumed that is when it would be, were wrong, and are trying to pin the blame on Blizzard for "lying" to you.

[bowlink]

the armour is likely done. but the worgen one will likely involve Gilneas in some way. which in turn would involve the undead. and they need to turn the story to that point.

as for the goblins it will likely be something like a bankheist problely Galliwix's. with how mutch they are Pushing Gaz'low as a good leader. again that need the story to be going in that direction.

so i expect the Heritage armour to be out 8.3 at the earliest. and 9.0 at the lastest.

Worgen & Goblins plays will swallow delay in the same expansion (they won't like it but they will) they won't swallow having to wait another expansion

[Kemsa]

the armour is likely done. but the worgen one will likely involve Gilneas in some way. which in turn would involve the undead. and they need to turn the story to that point.

as for the goblins it will likely be something like a bankheist problely Galliwix's. with how mutch they are Pushing Gaz'low as a good leader. again that need the story to be going in that direction.

so i expect the Heritage armour to be out 8.3 at the earliest. and 9.0 at the lastest.

Worgen & Goblins plays will swallow delay in the same expansion (they won't like it but they will) they won't swallow having to wait another expansion

Finally someone with common sense. Although i also belive they are pushing a lot of things because of Classic. This will explain why the PTR are just a bunch of Encrypted files and just a little things, like bones, nname npcs, flags and nothing innusual apart from some weird strings about Orgrimmar and Gilneas.
SO i will be actually more focused on what they are going to release on 8.3 or Blizzcon, at this point we cant even test the 15 aniversary boss gauntlets yet... and thats one of the main focused of the patch.

Idk chief... i am scared when Blizzard crafts this "we are not showing something because of X Y and Z"

[FelPlague]

Would be nice if Blizzard actually only mentioned things they know they can get out at a certain time.

i wish they could, but sadly since vanilla they have tried to tell people things they plan to do, but things are cut constantly in game development.
sadly though people pretend this is a new thing, when this has been a thing since vanilla.
there is a reason why blizzard doesent communicate, cause when they do, this happens.

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Go easy on them. They are a small indie company after all. And they clearly put a lot of care and effort into BfA.

yeah i wonder if they put the same effort into vanilla and the demon hunter on the box.
or wotlk with the ariel pvp combat on the box, or the promised dance studio, or cata and the promised path of the titans.

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Absolute fuckers. Lying pieces of shit.

seriously? welcome to game development... stuff gets cut and postponed all the time.

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I've been watching the shitshow that is ActiBlizz go down hill since before the fuckup that was WoD. Fucking constant pruning and then lying through their goddamned teeth about Flying. So go fanboy White Knight somewhere else.

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https://www.mmorpg.com/world-of-warc...-my-1000013638

Go down to the "Transmog, Customization & Goblin / Worgen Models" section and read the first like 5 sentences.

You mean how they have gone down since vanilla?
they have "lied" about content coming since vanilla wow.

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Keep White Knighting for the Multi-Billion dollar company, cparle87. They definitely need it. If you're a developer and choose to give an interview you should damn well know better than to say things you can't back up because people WILL call you out on it.

Yeah if only they knew that back in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018.

[Sarevokcz]

I am still mad about Karabor dammit.

I'm still mad about the promised but never delivered shaman revamp in vanilla.

[Astalnar]

I guess all those fireing are starting to show, and it doesn't look good. Time to face the music, Blizzard just entered a death spiral.

[Mixxy]

I mean, I am not defending it but I would rather the heritage armor be quality over being rushed.

It's two armor sets. In an expansion that deliberately removed Tier sets so that the art team could make more frequent, more varied, higher quality armor.

Now I dunno about you, but as a Leather-wearing main, I have been positively fucking STARVED for transmogs this expansion. There's hardly any armor sets being added and - if you're not one of the handful of races that has already received a new Heritage set - the sets that ARE being added are almost universally garbage.
The only appearances that look up-to-stuff are the Mythic raid sets and the Rated PvP sets, and even those only look "as good" as the Heroic-level stuff from the last two expansions.

Like... did Blizzard just fire 80% of the art team without anyone hearing about it? This last patch has added a whopping eight or nine armor sets to the game and they're all fucking Cataclysm quality.



Got a bit sidetracked there. My point is that they've had at least a goddamn year to create a measly two armor sets and they couldn't even manage that. There are lone unemployed art nerds living off of noodles who put this multi-billion-dollar company's ENTIRE collective armor asset team to shame in quality, quantity AND speed combined.
If we can't even hold billion-dollar Activision-Blizzard to the same standards as a single college student's fucking Dropbox or Sketchfab account, what standard ARE we holding them to?

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"Shortly after the Rise of Azshara... in a future content patch" They did NOT say 8.2.5. YOU assumed that is when it would be, were wrong, and are trying to pin the blame on Blizzard for "lying" to you.

Let me walk you through this.

“Shortly after Rise of Azshara, you’ll see that,” Morgan explained. “These are the two races that haven’t been updated. They’ll have new heritage armor with that as well.”

That means that the Worgen and Goblin model updates and heritage armor sets are both coming "shortly after the rise of Azshara", and that they're both coming out at the same time.
"They'll have new heritage armor with that as well."

We later find out that the model updates are coming in 8.2.5.
With no update on the armor sets, people are (obviously) led to believe that the plan hasn't changed - that the heritage armor set is still coming out with the model update.

And then, much later, we get a single half-assed sentenced "Oh the armor sets aren't coming with the model updates."
Only after being asked about it, time and time again.

If they hadn't been asked, they never would've told us that Morgan's original statement had since changed. And it HAS changed.

Original statement: "Model updates are coming out and heritage armor is coming out with them."
Current statement: "Model updates are coming out and heritage armor is coming out later."



Do you understand?


Edit:
On reflection, I'm honestly not even upset about the Heritage armor sets, or that they've clearly been pushed back.
I'm just pissed off at how bad the armor situation has been in BFA in general. Low-effort armor sets that I literally haven't seen a single person in the entire game wearing, no Tiers, being promised by Blizzard "The removal of Tiers means we can make even more frequent and varied armor sets from other sources!" which turned out to be a blatant fucking lie.
They went from a Tier set per class to a Tier set per armor-type and didn't add anything new or varied anywhere else. Oh, aside from a bunch of Cataclysm recolours from Islands and some heritage armor sets for the least-played races in the game (and Blood Elves)! Wow!

WoD having an entire tier of armor sets being removed is literally a meme, and that expansion STILL had more, and better, armor sets in it than BFA does.
That's... that's just fucking sad.

[qwerty123456]

Can we all finally agree that this 4chan AMA was fake?

Or they pushed them back because it was true......

And no I don't believe it

[Fetus Rex]

i wish they could, but sadly since vanilla they have tried to tell people things they plan to do, but things are cut constantly in game development.
sadly though people pretend this is a new thing, when this has been a thing since vanilla.
there is a reason why blizzard doesent communicate, cause when they do, this happens.

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yeah i wonder if they put the same effort into vanilla and the demon hunter on the box.
or wotlk with the ariel pvp combat on the box, or the promised dance studio, or cata and the promised path of the titans.

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seriously? welcome to game development... stuff gets cut and postponed all the time.

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You mean how they have gone down since vanilla?
they have "lied" about content coming since vanilla wow.

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Yeah if only they knew that back in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018.

Stop being fucking apologist. It shouldn't get cut or postponed.

[Kayze]

"Shortly after the Rise of Azshara... in a future content patch" They did NOT say 8.2.5. YOU assumed that is when it would be, were wrong, and are trying to pin the blame on Blizzard for "lying" to you.

Wow, such a stretch. Do you not know what "They’ll have new heritage armor with that as well." means? That = model updates. With that = implies releasing at the same time. Models are releasing in 8.2.5. This is simple english.

Wake up you blind fanboy and stop idiotically defending a multi-billion dollar company, that should have the competency to operate as one by now, with blatant lies.

[DisposableHero]

Laying to Rest is actually available in Thunder Totem. The breadcrumb leading to it in Dalaran is called The Right Path.

[Wekko]

One good cloth set or one good worgen set?

It's important to remember - what looks good is generally subjective. I've never had a problem making sets for worgen

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But they didn't say either of those things - they literally said the heritage armor is coming with the model updates. Stop whiteknighting Blizzard it makes you look silly

What are you 12? Blizzard clearly has issues but if you are gonna misconstrue words and context the you have issues as well. No one is whiteknighting a billion dollar company, they just aren’t letting this bother them like you are. It’s called being chill and letting things go, not whiteknighting my young lad.

[Destinas]

"Shortly after the Rise of Azshara... in a future content patch" They did NOT say 8.2.5. YOU assumed that is when it would be, were wrong, and are trying to pin the blame on Blizzard for "lying" to you.

So, they said "with" the new models in an interview, which cannot be taken any other way. But, clearly, that's not the case, so let's set that aside for just a moment.

The site that had that original interview stated that Heritage Armor was coming with Worgen/Goblin updated models. Soon Wowhead and MMO-C stated that, as well as notable WoW-related Youtube channels and other fansites. It was on reddit, twitter, and other sites/apps.

Blizzard saw that the Heritage Armor was being stated by everyone for 8.2.5 (sourced from one of their own in an interview) for months, and only now decided to correct that with the 8.2.5 PTR, after people asked about it not being in the files. They had a lot of time to correct everyone, or simply say at some time "We are aiming for 8.2.5" or "We were planning for 8.2.5 but it has to be pushed back." Whether or not they "lied" is irrelevant to me - they didn't correct any facts given out (by one of their own), knowing that the community is starving for anything that would make BfA fun again.

While I don't mind it being pushed back if they plan to take more time to make it (one could hope), it's clear they mishandled this topic on top of numerous others when it comes to BfA.

[sch1ntus]

Who cares about heritage armour............

[tangers58]

Who cares about heritage armour............

Lots of people given the lack of shit to do these days.

[deplorable]

they must be getting ready to have another mount on the shop...

[Cmx]

Free T-shirt day? Are you kidding me?

[this is caranthir]

Lots of people given the lack of shit to do these days.

Exactly right, considering they don't need to work on a tier set for every class they should pump out these heritage armors crazy fast.

[Suggs]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
Was hoping to see what they did with me goblin armor and now they time gated that shit too