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    Quote Originally Posted by Celista View Post
    Lol.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/15/polit...nal/index.html


    Would be interested in hearing what citizens of Greenland think of this.
    Hey, want to hear the part that makes it funny?

    Trump asked the Greenland government, they said no.
    Trump didn't like the answer, goes to ask the Danish government, they said no, that is absurd.
    Trump literally asked another government if he could buy Greenland.
    Trump fails to realize that Greenland is connected to Denmark by the border of the Kingdom (They were offered their independence but wanted to stay with our queen, so instead they were offered and tasked to govern themselves).
    Trump doesn't like that he doesn't get his will.
    Trump doesn't like that the Primeminister actually spoke her mind with the following end phrase. Greenland is for Greenland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xarkan View Post
    They want to be free from Denmark not a part of another country

    And wtf? Denmark faces financial trouble from supporting Greenland? What nonsense is that?
    They are free from Denmark but governed control, they want to still be under the royal crown.

    And no, laughable to say Denmark is in financial trouble from supporting Greenland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Low Hanging Fruit View Post
    Look at this positively.

    Kind of like how he admitted Americans pay for tariffs in the trade war and not Chinese by delaying new ones to "not impact the holiday season" with price hicks. This is him admitting global warming is real and when we have to start abandoning areas that are to hot the ice in Greenland will be melted and people can go there.

    Humble beginnings.

    /s (I think)
    Greenland is not a complete landmass. Once the ice is gone, there will be hundreds of small islands standing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gehco View Post
    Greenland is not a complete landmass. Once the ice is gone, there will be hundreds of small islands standing.
    Ah, the wonders of being educated in /s could have saved you a "since I am the reasonable voice in the room.." ending up as "look guys, I can make fart sounds with my voice and call it science" type of moment here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantomen View Post
    They will "never" be independent becuse Denmark is a free western country, if seperatists start to make real claim, the Danish will smother them with new privileges and rights for Greenlanders.
    The only connection they have to Denmark is the service of the Kingdom (protection, security and such) the government is at their own control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Low Hanging Fruit View Post
    Ah, the wonders of being educated in /s could have saved you a "since I am the reasonable voice in the room.." ending up as "look guys, I can make fart sounds with my voice and call it science" type of moment here.
    Didn't mean to come out rude. Just some people think it is one huge chunk of land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i9erek View Post
    Seriously? They're a shit country ... they have nothing. No research centers, no industry ... just because someone is paying you an allowance doesn't mean that you're in good shape. People wanna work a job they love and there is not a lot of options in Greenland as a young man when it comes to career choices. Having access to the US and all its job market and universities would be great for Greenland. Having US citizens move there would also be great as they can use a couple of more cities and a bit more population. They can keep their healthcare, as long as their local government can fund it then it's their choice.
    The citizens of Greenland has everything at their request from Denmark by the extention of the Kingdom. If they wish to educate further than they can in Greenland, then they can request admission to the schools of Denmark.
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    Does trump speak danish? He’s clearly mentally ill and a criminal, so maybe we can deport him to Greenland like that “Iraqi”/Greek/American guy.

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    I remember when there used to be an article or something posted in the op. I don’t doubt it’s true but I would like more details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    I remember when there used to be an article or something posted in the op. I don’t doubt it’s true but I would like more details.
    I mean, it's pretty easy to find a news article.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49423968

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gehco View Post
    Trump asked the Greenland government, they said no.
    Just in case there is any doubt, here are official WH documents where Trump says, yes, he will ask. This thread started with "sources say" and Trump just flat-out confirmed them.

    Trump is not upset because someone said an unconfirmed report said something absurd about Trump. Trump is upset because someone said Trump said something absurd. He's not upset because someone's making jokes about him. He's upset because he's the joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    I remember when there used to be an article or something posted in the op. I don’t doubt it’s true but I would like more details.
    Honestly, we're getting overrun with where to find sources. What news paper do you trust from the US? Else, check Twitter under the trending hash, #GreenlandIsNotForSale
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanjori View Post
    I mean, it's pretty easy to find a news article.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49423968
    So easy it should be in the op

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    So easy it should be in the op
    Why should the OP bother when this is literally a top news article on most sites? If you're on the internet and somehow have missed this, you probably have 0 interest in news topics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Just in case there is any doubt, here are official WH documents where Trump says, yes, he will ask. This thread started with "sources say" and Trump just flat-out confirmed them.

    Trump is not upset because someone said an unconfirmed report said something absurd about Trump. Trump is upset because someone said Trump said something absurd. He's not upset because someone's making jokes about him. He's upset because he's the joke.
    The absurd part, if people wonder, is because went to another government control to ask them if he could.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanjori View Post
    Why should the OP bother when this is literally a top news article on most sites? If you're on the internet and somehow have missed this, you probably have 0 interest in news topics.
    I get my news from here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gehco View Post
    The absurd part, if people wonder, is because went to another government control to ask them if he could.
    No, this is the absurd part.

    In the Trump era, no moment of tranquility can be taken for granted.

    I went to the beach for what I thought would be a quiet August break. I returned to find President Trump plotting to annex Greenland.

    On Sunday, Trump confirmed that he would be interested in buying the territory from Denmark and that “we’ll talk to them” about it. “Essentially, it’s a large real estate deal,” Trump explained, reasoning that Denmark might be willing to part with the huge land mass because “they carry it at a great loss.”

    The great Danes reacted indignantly. “Greenland is not for sale,” Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen proclaimed on a defensive visit to the island Sunday, calling the idea “an absurd discussion” and saying “I strongly hope that this is not meant seriously.”

    Fighting words! There is only one proper response to such intransigence: The United States must take Greenland by force.
    "Whoa whoa whoa, this is clearly satire."

    Well, yes, but
    1) This is the Salt Lake Tribune, and we all know how Utah feels, and
    2) Bear with me, the punchline is coming up.

    Greenland has no regular military, so we should be able to occupy every Nuuk and cranny of the place without much struggle. It's possible, of course, that this attack on Danish territory would prompt a response by NATO under the alliance's mutual-defense pact, but Trump has already defanged that alliance.

    Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, foresaw such a moment, saying in 2016 during the GOP presidential nominating battle that "we're liable to wake up one morning and Donald, if he were president, would have nuked Denmark."
    "HOLY FUCKING SHIT. Is that true?"

    Yes. Here's an example link from Feb 3, 2016.

    I will now quote the rest of the piece, which I normally hate doing, but this is fucking hilarious.

    Trump has demonstrated little familiarity with the kingdom — his White House once spelled it “Denmakr” — which is why I speculated that he might bumble into a misplaced (and misspelled) assault on that country (“You may be shoked by my military attak on the Kingdom of Denmakr ...”). After that prediction, an anxious man in Copenhagen emailed me with a plea that I cease giving Trump such ideas.

    But a U.S. attack on Greenland would meet the definition of a just war. It would be an act of self-defense against a violent people: Erik the Red, who founded the first European settlement in Greenland, was exiled from Iceland for his murderous ways.

    Besides, Greenland attacked us first. It was 1,019 years ago, give or take — and they still celebrate it: In the town of Qassiarsuk, according to the website VisitGreenland.com, stands a bronze statue of Leif Eriksson — one of Erik the Red’s sons — on the site from which the Viking departed to invade North American shores.

    Greenland hit us again, in 1912: It is well established that the iceberg that sank the Titanic originated in Greenland. Furthermore, the island resumed its incursions in recent years, flooding our shores with rising water from its melting ice sheet.

    Some might wonder what Trump sees in an ice-covered island that has zero percent arable land, lacks major roads and has more vowels than people. Its national anthem is "Nunarput utoqqarsuanngoravit," translated as, "Our Country, Who's Become So Old."

    The answer, as usual, is to be found in Trump's TV-viewing habit. I suspect that, during his recent Executive Time, he watched the James Bond film "Quantum of Solace," in which the villains conquer a country by monopolizing the fresh-water supply. Greenland's ice, with enough water to fill the Great Lakes 115 times, is the world's second-largest supply of fresh water.

    If Trump's Greenland move was indeed inspired by his screen time, it would be consistent with his pattern. His claim that women are being smuggled across the southern border with "duct tape on their faces" had no basis in reality but figured prominently in the Benicio del Toro film, "Sicario: Day of the Soldado." Trump's use of an emergency declaration to build a border wall without congressional approval had a precedent in Netflix's "House of Cards," in which Frank Underwood declared an emergency to enact his pet project over congressional wishes. And many of Trump's policy pronouncements originate in Fox News segments.

    But this latest example of life imitating Trump's TV screen isn't necessarily to be discouraged. The world's largest island, Greenland is three times the size of Texas and almost 50% larger than Alaska. Such a vast territory would surely gain statehood before long, and representation in the House and Senate. And there's little mystery about which way Greenland's representatives in Congress would tilt: Its two biggest political parties are both varieties of socialists.

    Trump likes to warn that Democrats want a "socialist takeover." But by annexing Greenland, he'd be the one bringing genuine socialists to these shores.

    Even Erik the Red couldn't achieve that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i9erek View Post
    Basically, Greenland is great because they can leave it! Lol yeah such a nice place.
    It is actually a beautiful place but you can't create a full system alone on under 60.000 citizens, there is a reason they wish to remain part of the Kingdom of Denmark but have their self-governing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by i9erek View Post
    Basically, Greenland is great because they can leave it! Lol yeah such a nice place.
    Then why do you want the US to buy it? And to who will the money go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xarkan View Post
    Because Greenland leads to arctic dominance, if Greenland stays Greenland that territory is Greenlands, if it becomes part of the US then it becomes American. There is actual global power in owning that island

    They might have more rights than for example Canada if they buy Greenland
    There is valid strategic and resource reasons to want greenland. But the way he is going about it and how salty he is being for getting rebuffed is what makes the whole thing bonkers. If you really wanted to do it you would have back channel diplomacy with denmark and lay the ground work. Given how small the population of greenland is if the US really wanted it you could probably buy the residents approval for a small portion of the overall cost of acquiring it.

    Everything about this though strikes me as trump heard something in some briefing that mentioned greenland and real estate in the same sentance and trumps brain went REAL ESTATE DEAL I NEED THIS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaid View Post
    Everything about this though strikes me as trump heard something in some briefing that mentioned greenland and real estate in the same sentance and trumps brain went REAL ESTATE DEAL I NEED THIS.
    I really don't see Trump going to breifings with all the Fox news he watches...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gehco View Post
    Greenland is not a complete landmass. Once the ice is gone, there will be hundreds of small islands standing.
    You're probably mixing stuff with Antarctica. Greenland's bedrock is clearly one landmass above sea level. It would have an inner sea, probably destined to shrink in a few millenia due to isostatic rebound, but the land circling it would be pretty firm.

    See :

    https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=6990
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    This whole saga is rather embarrassing for everyone involved.

    There's no reason for Danes to get their tracksuits in a twist because the US made a friendly inquiry about Greenland, and there's no reason for the President to throw a shitfit if it was politely declined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethul Ur No View Post
    This whole saga is rather embarrassing for everyone involved.

    There's no reason for Danes to get their tracksuits in a twist because the US made a friendly inquiry about Greenland, and there's no reason for the President to throw a shitfit if it was politely declined.
    Trump made the inquiry, it wasn’t approved by congress or any mechanism that would actually pay for it. The Danes responded that it was an absurd request, which caused Trump to lose his shit and cancel a meeting. I don’t understand how Danes are at fault here... if their leader unitarily asked to buy Hawaii, that wouldn’t be absurd?
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