This is a factually incorrect statement. If anything both the LFD and later the LFR expose what the real community. The community did itself in, all these features did was helped to expose what many had to endure and few like yourself got to largely ignore. Some people had their little clicks and niche groups of people and rarely strayed from them.
When I started, I was not a good skilled player, frankly, I sucked. That opened the World of Warcraft at every level to me from the people that loved to cause problems and issues to the ego-driven people that we're incapable of extending a hand to a newer player. Throttbot was the best information at the time and it was at best incomplete. Asking questions of strangers in various chats led to being marginalized like some sort of plague. Course over the years of keeping an eye on these various chats, like trade chat, people got worse and far nastier over time.
If anything the LFD exposed the shortcomings of the community. People only saw what they wanted to see, not what the bulk of people like myself had to largely endure from both sides spectrum. I became a better player over time, though at no point did I stop helping people that were mostly marginalized like when I first started to play WoW. I remember well how the guild leader, in my first guild, treated me in the first dungeon run and I have never forgotten how that felt ever since that was over 13 years ago.
That dirtbag did me a favor, as a result of being a dickhead, I went looking for another guild. As it turned out the guild I joined was amazing it led me to join its sister guild as well. Which allowed me to help and interact with people of all stripes from questing and farming players to PVP, raiders, and dungeon grinders. Both guilds like many others were maxed out with people that helped one another out and were able to do so because they check their egos for the betterment of the guilds.
Had it not been for both guilds I would not still be playing WoW today. I knew there were still good people playing, even though at every turn there was another in a long list of dirtbags to deal with in my path. No, the LFD is probably what saved many from continuing to play this game. The bulk of two guilds I mentioned were nothing more than a shell of their former selves by the end of Wrath. At the beginning of Cata, the leadership structure of both simply stopped playing. I eventually moved on to another realm and another one after that. What is sad about both those guild is the fact they formed at the beginning of Vanilla.
I have seen the good and the bad of this game and I can say without a bit of hesitation that your statement is factually wrong! People like yourself saw what you want to see. The LFD opened up the door so you could see what I was seeing since I started playing this game. I remember well the legions of people complaining how bad people were when the LFD was first introduced. I will give you the lack of communication, but as for the social aspect. Even back then there was enough of a population of scumbags from both ends of the spectrum that treated people like garbage.
yes it was...
https://wowwiki.fandom.com/el/wiki/Looking_For_Group
I know this sounds totally absurd, but how about you just make ten or so friends? Not every group has to be with a bunch of random people that bail for one reason or another.
Besides, with a few exceptions many of the low-level dungeons simply are not worth doing unless you have all the quests and a solid group right at that moment. Itemization is all over the place in classic and often times a BoE green can easily fill the place of that shiny BoP blue for a few levels. Later on with UBRS, BRD (ony attunement), scholomance, and stratholme you might hit a snag depending on where the server is at progression wise, but people are always leveling alts and it shouldn't be too hard to find a group if you made any contacts leveling.
the people complaining about losing this addon are not classic lovers they are retailers that are just jumping on the bandwagon even though they dont even care for classic.
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Retailers should stay off classic if this triggers them. Keep feeding your addiction to gambling with the garbage roulette game known as BFA. You obviously want to stay there anyways.
didnt vanilla have similar addons anyway?
I'am not saying there weren't any douchbags back in the day. I don't even believe the amount douchbags has either increased or decreased since then. What I am saying is that because of how it was structured you cared an awful lot more about who you played with and how you wanted to be perceived. If you meet someone awful, you didn't want to play with them and took the necessary precautions to not do so. Just as you described. Lets say you found a good, smooth pug. Chances are someone in that group would suggest you should hit up another dungeon rather then go back to your capital to maybe to find a new group to join. If you teamed up with a bad healer you taught them how to play since the time it would take you to leave Shadowfang Keep to go back home to find a new one to bring back would probably take the same amount of time. You will remember that good, smooth pug, and the players you played with the next day, and they might bring another friend they found in another pug they did some night before.
I played guildless for three expansions and this how I remember it. I can't remember ever having any issues finding groups with a large selection of friends. There sure were awful people in the game. But if you knew they were awful, chances are the people around you (or at least the people you cared about) thought so as well.
So instead of questing in ungoro und use the tool to find a group - i have to stay in IF and spam the trade chat. How on earth is this a "improvement"?
Last edited by Mirabai; 2019-08-24 at 11:17 PM.
I find this absolutely hilarious.
First, "BfA babies/tards/addicts" or whatever is the current buzzphrase don't want anything to do with Classic because "they can't handle it".
Now, apparently, "BfA babies/tards/addicts" went through the trouble of creating an addon for the game to use as they play, or just to sabotage the game, according to the ever so astute Classic fanflags.
Hohoho, sweet summer children. Gonna be hilarious to read all the ways in which they'll use mental gymnastics to blame anything faulty or bad about their community, on Retail players.
It's Classic.
Simple as that. Not sure how anyone ever believed that this addon would be allowed, but here we are.
Although, nobody playing Classic as a purist should be using Discord. Lest they be hypocrites.
Last edited by Queen of Hamsters; 2019-08-24 at 11:29 PM.
Why do you get such a hardon against people who prefer something you don’t? Do you feel threatened or something? You shouldn’t. BFA may have nothing going on but the next expac announcement will take the focus back to retail. Stop being a prick who gets joy from others mistery.
Oh noes, people will need to TALK to each other in order to go to dungeons. The horror!
Good, LFG tool was for salty retail players. Stay the fuck in BFA and don't touch our game with your shitty post-classic features, thx.