Storm Area 51, They Can't Stop All of Us is in 11 days.

[YUPPIE]

We really won't. Pro gun people understand that these people are idiots. The anti gun liberals don't have any guns because they're afraid of them. So They have no chance at a "world war 3."

yes we will have WW3 pretty much. Mowing down even 5+ civilians just to keep " secrets" sounds bad enough but from an unrealistic standpoint of *two million* people marching in together and most being shot down or killed by landmines? Whole country will revolt.

It can even just be one person to stir the fire. I wonder if there's going to be someone brave enough to try to run directly past the (most likely) guards assigned to politely intercept the mob. Will they shoot him down and will someone try to challenge that?

[Ghostpanther]

yes we will have WW3 pretty much. Mowing down even 20+ civilians just to keep " secrets" sounds bad enough but from an unrealistic standpoint of *two million* people marching in together and most being shot down or killed by landmines? Whole country will revolt.

No they won't. You would get protests, but most people know how stupid this idea was in the first place. Would not need to shoot 20. Just 4 or 5 and the rest would get the picture. Military secrets must be protected for the welfare of the whole country.

[YUPPIE]

No they won't. You would get protests, but most people know how stupid this idea was in the first place. Would not need to shoot 20. Just 4 or 5 and the rest would get the picture. Military secrets must be protected for the welfare of the whole country.

They shoot 4 or 5 and the rest (I'm certain there will be 10+ at least) will likely go into a frenzy. Likely escalating into more people being shot or physical violence being enforced to detain. Then it's going to be all over the news of how our military just shot 4 - 5 unarmed civilians in any capacity. Which is going to fuel widespread unease and curiosity of just what the fuck could possibly be there that they will fire upon unarmed civilians with machine guns.

This is a historical event in the making. Everyone knew Area 51's permits for lethal force but no one has tried to challenge it like with this event to come.

[Ghostpanther]

They shoot 4 or 5 and the rest (I'm certain there will be 10+ at least) will likely go into a frenzy. Likely escalating into more people being shot or physical violence being enforced to detain. Then it's going to be all over the news of how our military just shot 4 - 5 unarmed civilians in any capacity. Which is going to fuel widespread unease and curiosity of just what the fuck could possibly be there that they will fire upon unarmed civilians with machine guns.

This is a historical event in the making. Everyone knew Area 51's permits for lethal force but no one has tried to challenge it like with this event to come.

So you expect them to just let the crowd mob rule?

[YUPPIE]

So you expect them to just let the crowd mob rule?

Considering Area 51's guards are implied to be Navy Seal - Black Ops tier of badass, would a machine gun permit with lethal force be justified or necessary to stop what amounts to unarmed tourist nerds? They could just bring out the tear gas, shields, or even their fists, but they've gone on the record to explicitly say they're just going to mow you down with bullets if you trespass.

This is like the Enclave from Fallout made into reality and it's horrifying.

[Ghostpanther]

Considering Area 51's guards are implied to be Navy Seal - Black Ops tier of badass, would a machine gun permit with lethal force be justified or necessary to stop what amounts to unarmed tourist nerds? They could just bring out the tear gas, shields, or even their fists, but they've gone on the record to explicitly say they're just going to mow you down with bullets if you trespass.

This is like the Enclave from Fallout made into reality and it's horrifying.

I think lethal force would be a last resort. But they are authorized to use it and will if the other means fails.

[Santti]

Lol no. If anyone actually tries storming in and gets shot down, it will be the shortest investigation ever.

Indeed.

And everyone declaring war on each other, and against US, over this?

Sure, Jan.

[Amerissis]

No one's going to show up. Or well, a few hundred maybe, and 10 times that amount in press. Nothing will happen. It's the same as every other Facebook event. Thousands upon thousands of people say they will attend and then 100 people show up.

[avitush]

I'm gonna be watching from a safe distance (as in, the news and/or YouTube).

I doubt anywhere near 2 million will show up. There will probably be a little party/event in the general area where a few people show up, maybe they cook hamburgers and hotdogs and stuff, and there will probably be a handful of dumbshits who are stupid enough to actually try and fail at running in. But I imagine the armed guards and "NO TRESPASSING. USE OF DEADLY FORCE AUTHORIZED" signs everywhere will be a good enough deterrent for most sane people.

[Zuben]

You'd think they'd move anything of interest elsewhere in preparation for this. If there is anything of interest there in the first place.

[avitush]

You'd think they'd move anything of interest elsewhere in preparation for this. If there is anything of interest there in the first place.

I have a theory that the government is low-key encouraging Area 51's publicity and making it look all top secret but not actually hiding anything there, so the media/general public will keep attention focused on it. Meanwhile, they're keeping all the hot alien chicks elsewhere.

[Breccia]

No one is going. It was a joke

I am 99% hopeful this is the case.

1% of me wants to see a bunch of tinfoil-hat-wearing gun-totin' conspiracy theorists on their knees at gunpoint being handcufffed with horrified expressions and soaked trousers. Because anyone stupid enough to actually do this deserves to have their cryface splashed across social media, and anyone who tries this with a gun will be lucky to only be arrested.

- - - Updated - - -

So you expect them to just let the crowd mob rule?

Yeah, I'm going to side with the kitten on this one. There is only one place in the USA where mob rule is allowed, and that's the speed limit of the New Jersey Turnpike. You don't just let armed idiots saunter into a government facility because the paperwork is such a hassle.

[GreenJesus]

The problem would be actual terrorists or spies hiding in the group. They cant let anyone unauthorized on a military base.

[Dwarfhamster]

yes we will have WW3 pretty much.

Not sure what this has to do with a world war. Do you mean a civil war?

[Lodreh]

yes we will have WW3 pretty much. Mowing down even 5+ civilians just to keep " secrets" sounds bad enough but from an unrealistic standpoint of *two million* people marching in together and most being shot down or killed by landmines? Whole country will revolt...

I find this so funny. So just for argument's sake say that a couple of hundred people show up. First thing they are going to discover is all communication... phones and internet will be cut off. If they proceed to storm the gates and get mowed down you best believe the video would be confiscated long before it was ever uploaded. Last a statement would come out a few weeks later on how some tourists got lost in the desert and their desiccated, unidentifiable remains were found after being severely scavenged by wildlife.

[YUPPIE]

I find this so funny. So just for argument's sake say that a couple of hundred people show up. First thing they are going to discover is all communication... phones and internet will be cut off. If they proceed to storm the gates and get mowed down you best believe the video would be confiscated long before it was ever uploaded. Last a statement would come out a few weeks later on how some tourists got lost in the desert and their desiccated, unidentifiable remains were found after being severely scavenged by wildlife.

no one is going to believe that if 100+ went missing. Also, the way you describe that kind of aftermath conspiracy is something out of Dead Space or Fallout's Enclave (again). Terrifying to know that's the military we're allegedly protected by.

I'm 100% certain at least a few people will try to storm the gates in an act of bravado. Otherwise, this whole raid thing was just a waste of everyone's time.

[Lodreh]

If was was closer to thousands then the story would be adjusted to include a disaster of some kind... natural or man-made. Point is nothing will be gained from this and the truth will most likely never be known. But to think that the country would revolt because a bunch of idiots disappeared over night... yeah not likely to happen.

[Lodreh]

...I'm 100% certain at least a few people will try to storm the gates in an act of bravado. Otherwise, this whole raid thing was just a waste of everyone's time.

The whole thing is a waste of time.

[YUPPIE]

If was was closer to thousands then the story would be adjusted to include a disaster of some kind... natural or man-made. Point is nothing will be gained from this and the truth will most likely never be known. But to think that the country would revolt because a bunch of idiots disappeared over night... yeah not likely to happen.

but once again, no one will believe that kind of story considering the numbers. People WILL revolt if made aware the military is open to mass firing upon civilians for their security/gain. Then we will have civil war followed by dictatorship/loss of freedom and other nations will see it as an opportunity for power and we get nuclear armageddon.

That's what I think is going to happen if people die or go missing on mass. It's a very concerning thing.

[Thekri]

I never really found that place interesting. If they were really holding aliens, then I'm sure that their other alien buddies would have invaded Earth by now. Seems like just a generic military base. I very much doubt that anything will come out of this event.

It is very much NOT a generic military base. But we do know what it actually is. "Area 51" is the Airforce Testing Range at Groom Lake. It is a common location for the testing of a wide range of advanced technologies due to its extreme remoteness, and the near impossibility of observing any aircraft operating out of it from civilian areas. It was the site were we tested the F-117, the SR-71, The B-2 Spirit, the U-2 and who knows what else. Besides its remoteness, the huge expanse of flat desert is perfect for a soft landing if something goes wrong in a flight. It is also known that the CIA had a presence there in the 1950s, although it is unknown if that is still true.

The reason it is called "Area 51" is because it is one of about 70 areas of the Nevada Test Range, a truly massive complex where the US government tests basically everything. Most notable, in the past the marque event was nuclear weapons testing, where they donated hundreds of them in Areas 1-40. Area 51 is smack in the middle, and to get there you would have to cross a lot of these other ranges, which are full of radiation, unexploded ordinance, barbed wire, armed guards and so forth. It is also about 70 miles of desert, so you aren't going to make it even if there was nothing.

So no. It isn't a normal military base. It is also not a base with any aliens on it, and there is no actual connection to Roswell or any other alleged alien encounter. Instead the whole "Area 51 has aliens" thing seems to come from one person. Bob Lazar. Lazar claims the government hired him to reverse engineer alien tech at Area 51, but this is rather dubious, as he has no technical certifications of any kind, and at no point worked for the US government. Of course he claims the government erased his multiple degrees from MIT and Caltech... yada, yada, yada. Really silly stuff. Anyway, Ol' Bob has been jumping from one two bit scam to the next for the last 40 years or so, and is scarcely a reliable source. But that is literally the only connection Area 51 has to aliens.

- - - Updated - - -

but once again, no one will believe that kind of story considering the numbers. People WILL revolt if made aware the military is open to mass firing upon civilians for their security/gain. Then we will have civil war followed by dictatorship/loss of freedom and other nations will see it as an opportunity for power and we get nuclear armageddon.

That's what I think is going to happen if people die or go missing on mass. It's a very concerning thing.

Nobody is going to die. That is just silly. The Nevada Test Site saw literally hundreds of protests in the 80s and 90s that were bigger then this one. Arresting Martin Sheen was a bit of a rite of passage for MPs out there. The idea that the government doesn't know how to control crowds without shooting them is crazy. We aren't exactly dealing with a very professional or scary demographic here either. Internet conspiracy theorists are about as scary as a wet fart when they actually show up in person.