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You CAN need on lootboxes. But don't be surprised if word spreads around your server that you ninja that shit and stop getting invited to runs. Classic: Where reputation actually means something.
Flask of the Titans is a recipe that drops from ONE NPC in the entire game. Using it as a way to justify rogues being assholes about locked chests is ridiculous. As I said, it's cool. Either I'm wrong and the rogues get away with their shitty habits or I'm right and those rogues are fucked on their servers. Regardless of the outcome, I now know I need to be much more careful about my group when a rogue is present.
As a Rogue, I would unlock a locked chest in a dungeon for the winner of a /random. I couldn't open it without the help of my group getting me there. It just seems incredibly selfish otherwise.
Mages do have to pay to give people in the party food, by the way.
Just kick the rogues that ninja, you literally don't need any rogues for endgame, you can have all rogues on a blacklist and just replace them with superior Warriors for melee, more DPS AND Utility with shouts and off-tanks if needed. They should be thankful to even have a group since they bring DPS, and nothing else, no buffs, no utility they are extremely low priority for pve. Just throwing in some facts.
I'm not really 'combatting' anyone. I think rogues should realize they're part of the group and everyone should roll on both boxes and chests and the rogue should open either, regardless of who wins. Why? Because the rogue is part of a team and teams work together, not just each for themselves. Too many people here are selfish and, yes, entitled. Just out for themselves. They can do this in retail because they will never see anyone in that PUG ever again. I think they'll get a crappy rep on most servers if they work with this attitude in Classic since your source of PUGs is that server and no other.
Is the loot in the boxes/chests really that important? No. But you can't say "Geez, people, why do you care if the rogue gets some pots and a meh green?" without turning that around - "Hey rogue, why are you so insistent it's your loot if it's only some pots and a green"?
Think about it this way - if you're all "this is the rogue's loot and the rest of you can fuck off"... would you have that same attitude if it was 4 friends in the group? 4 guildies? No? Why do it with others then? Right... because you can get away with it... except this isn't retail and word will spread if you do it a lot.
Ultimately, for me, it's not about the loot. It's about the kind of person I want to run with and selfish assholes don't make that cut.
Last edited by clevin; 2019-09-09 at 09:10 PM.
The way around that is to let the lockpick channel 3/4 of the way and then cancel with Esc.
You do you, boo. Doesn't affect me. I don't play a Rogue in Classic. Just offering a viable strategy for those who wish to keep their chest heists a secret.
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As a Rogue I just offer who ever wins the lockbox to open it for them.
For locked chests I take everything except for green or blue items, which are rolled for. If no one needs, I take em or let them be disenchanted and roll for the shard. NEVER been a problem with that in a group.
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Last week it was layering and this week its lock boxes that people are complaining over. What will be the hot button issues in a week or months time. Maybe Blizzard needs to hotfix lock boxes or just outright remove them from the content. This community is beginning to sound a lot like people I been reading and hearing from for more than 12 years now. How pathetic can people get? How selfish can people chose to be? How sad that this Classic thing was suppose to bring the best out of the community that have stated why that many choose not to play retail today or Vanilla did not have the same problems from a community standpoint from the very beginning. I started at the beginning of BC, and frankly, I am not seeing a whole a lot of difference from the community I started with here.
That is pretty much the only excuse I'd be happy with, as I'm on an RP server.
I'd still react the same way with an "avoid this character" but I'd respect the player for RPing properly - rather than assuming the player is opportunistic and douchey, I know it's just they've chosen to play a character who happens to be opportunistic and douchey
Entitled? You mean like some of the rogues in this thread? Cuts both ways.
FYI, I heal people and help for free all the time, that isn't what this is about. So you can step off your heavenly high horse.
Nullified by a profession? Well, I guess rogues can use first aid from now on, they aren't entitled to my heals/taunts!
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Not really, he was demanding tips for unlocking things in dungeons? Well no one tips the healer or tank ( in this game) for doing their class related skills soooo
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The vast majority of the community agrees that the loot should be shared, I'm really not sure what you are complaining about? That someone asked a philosophical question at all?