WoW 2.0: What Blizzard MUST Do & How It WILL Happen

[toffmcsoft]

Extremely good video from BellularGaming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mwVv6e0ovM

Very worth watching, especially if you're interested in what could come.
Interesting to see how Classic wow gets compared to what blizzard needs to get back to.

Please Note- I am not affiliated with this Youtuber at all and by no means am posting this to drive traffic to this video.
I watched the video and shared it here as it's an EXTREMELY good video and discusses a very meaningful topic that we're all curious about what happens with wow.

[rrayy]

WoW 2 is not happening. And Blizzard doesn't need to get back to anything now that they do have classic.

[Paraka]

WoW 2 is not happening. And Blizzard doesn't need to get back to anything now that they do have classic.

I don't think a "2.0" is directly referenced to a sequel, but intended as a rebirth of what is now.

It's a bad play on phrasing, since technically we're nearing WoW 9.0 soon enough.

[dacoolist]

Extremely good video from BellularGaming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mwVv6e0ovM

Very worth watching, especially if you're interested in what could come.
Interesting to see how Classic wow gets compared to what blizzard needs to get back to.

One of if not Bellu's BEST video to date. Absolute BOSS level info and tbh.. Blizz should hire him for think tank operations alone. The guys smart, funny, and knows his shit

[Omedon]

Burning crusade was a long time ago.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Can we make it a rule that threads that exist solely to drive clicks to a youtuber's new video are bannable?

[dacoolist]

WoW 2 is not happening. And Blizzard doesn't need to get back to anything now that they do have classic.

Yeah if you watch the vid he fully talks about what wow 2.0 TECHNICALLY is etc, he's not calling for a World of Warcraft Number Two

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Can we make it a rule that threads that exist solely to drive clicks to a youtuber's new video are bannable?

I mean it's a damn good video though..

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Yeah if you watch the vid he fully talks about what wow 2.0 TECHNICALLY is etc, he's not calling for a World of Warcraft Number Two

People need to stop calling it WoW 2 and start calling it a Soft Reboot then.

[LuminaL]

the moment they flip the switch to start WoW 2 development is the moment it will crash into hard ground.

the only thing that keeps wow going at the moment is the sense of nostalgic and memories players have with their characters, the game environment and other players.

for wow2 to happen it requires a lot of dev focus, which we see currently blizzard is lacking. if they finish up wow with its last expansion, a lot of people will rapidly leave wow in a short matter of time and this is the important thing you should know, most of them will not come back for wow 2 and even from those who return most will leave the game shortly after which will result in a failed game. stop asking for wow2 because even if blizzard gets to that level of stupidity, it will not have 1% of success wow had.

[bbr]

In theory they are already doing a classic reboot - who knows theyll allow optional transfers to a clean TBC realm after AQ and naxx have had their time.

[kensim]

The Blizzard next generation MMO will happen, when is an interesting question.

The old Blizzard would be gung ho to be the innovator as they were with WoW many years ago. The current regime however I am not so sure wants to take that kind of risk nor do I believe they have that level of confidence in themselves. WoW Classic is an old game with very little new potential; at best it can re-write so older design decisions etc.

The next generation of games includes the next generation of expectations from players. Look at games like the Red Dead Redemption or we can assume Cyberpunk on the horizon are leagues ahead of what WoW is capable of, just from a "potential" standpoint. Look at what Square has done with Shadowbringers and their limited engine, the ratings speak for themselves.

The WoW engine is what will eventually force Blizzard into a decision, because the engine will not be able to supply the demand of the players (especially new players). The question is does Blizzard try to re-define the MMO market again and if so do they use Warcraft as the basis. If not; who does and what does Blizzard do to emulate.

[toffmcsoft]

Can we make it a rule that threads that exist solely to drive clicks to a youtuber's new video are bannable?

Sorry but I am in no means affiliated with this Youtuber, I watched the video and posted it here to share with the community.
This video is an extremely great topic of conversation.

[Naiattavain]

Extremely good video from BellularGaming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mwVv6e0ovM

Very worth watching, especially if you're interested in what could come.
Interesting to see how Classic wow gets compared to what blizzard needs to get back to.

really good video to watch talks about the problems with wow.

[Droodid]

It's almost like everyone in this thread didn't even bother to watch the video before having an opinion, SHOCKER. If you watch it, he's not calling for WoW 2, he's explaining how expansions handle the feel of a WoW 2 and how one's like Cata, as bad as it was, change the entire world layout, and that future expansions need to make the entire world usable, rather than just putting world quests in every zone and calling it a day, and how those calling for a revamp of graphics and other systems don't fully understand how the engine and all the systems work, and that it's not as simple as going "we're going to move to unreal."

[pewpmeiser]

It's almost like everyone in this thread didn't even bother to watch the video before having an opinion, SHOCKER. If you watch it, he's not calling for WoW 2, he's explaining how expansions handle the feel of a WoW 2 and how one's like Cata, as bad as it was, change the entire world layout, and that future expansions need to make the entire world usable, rather than just putting world quests in every zone and calling it a day, and how those calling for a revamp of graphics and other systems don't fully understand how the engine and all the systems work, and that it's not as simple as going "we're going to move to unreal."

Was Cataclysm bad? I thought it was great.

[Triceron]

I want a Cataclysm 2.0 and bring the focus of the game back into the world rather than branching outwards into disconnected mini-continents as we've been doing in every expansion.

- Revamped zones with phasing to allow all zones be relevant in end-game (World quests, microdungeons, World bosses etc)
- Revamp all zones to be larger, so that flight feels more compelling. More landmass can be explained with the Cataclysm 2.0 event, something like the Emerald Dream merging with our reality, or Azeroth stirring and arcane energies shifting the landmasses.
- Neutral races with better AI and interacting with each other more. We have been introduced to many more races around the world, so allow some to migrate back into Azeroth and establish new areas.
* Sethrak begin to populate Tanaris, and have an ongoing conflict with the Sand Trolls
* Gadgetzan becomes a sprawling metropolis ala Mean Streets of Gadgetzan
* Saberon and Botani spread out in the Barrens
* Centaurs are unified and begin to invade Mulgore under a new powerful new leader
* Ethereals establish their own trade ports around the world

The idea is if we're integrating more and more Allied Races into our own factions, the world should change to reflect a need for a bigger Alliance and Horde. More worldly threats to deal with and all. Having content explore new places is cool and all, but this game should really bring back the focus to the main continents

[Korru]

sry that will cost you 3 raid tiers

[Felmourn]

It's almost like everyone in this thread didn't even bother to watch the video before having an opinion, SHOCKER. If you watch it, he's not calling for WoW 2, he's explaining how expansions handle the feel of a WoW 2 and how one's like Cata, as bad as it was, change the entire world layout, and that future expansions need to make the entire world usable, rather than just putting world quests in every zone and calling it a day, and how those calling for a revamp of graphics and other systems don't fully understand how the engine and all the systems work, and that it's not as simple as going "we're going to move to unreal."

Don't be surprised, MMO-Champ is a echo champer that keeps the Outrage Culture alive and well. Terms like WoW 2, Elves, New Class, and New Race/Allied Race are trigger words that make most people reeee without fully reading/watching what others have typed/linked.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

Was Cataclysm bad? I thought it was great.

Cata suffered from one thing really. The content was badly paced. Like really badly paced. First tier lasted way to long. Then firelands wasn't that big of a raid and, again, lasted way to long. Then the final tier was kind of a recycled art mess of a tier with pretty uncreative bosses (one or two I will give good credit to). Top it off with giving Diablo 3 away for free if you stay subbed for the over a year of no new content release while Diablo 3's launch went on to be a disaster. On a side note it also was really flip floppy in game play. They wanted healer mana to matter so it mattered a whole lot for a tier then it pretty much didn't again. They were going to make heroics hard again and then they ripped that idea way immediately.

So what Cata a really bad expansion? No, not really. It just didn't know where it was going and took its time getting there which all added up to pissing a lot of people off that were used to a better produced product. Kind of how a lot of expansions have been since Cata in my opinion. Probably had something to do with the "money is all that matters now, fuck the people" revolution that happened in the gaming industry around the same time.

[Rendark]

Wow 2 Electric Boogaloo should never happen. Wow is like the Simpsons at this point. Just let it go.