frost, warrior, holy priest and combat need to be nerfed

[Sarkol]

Yes but is it fun? No it isnt. Becouse achieve such balance you have to make every class play exactly same way and give everyone same toolkits which makes playing classes super boring.

Classes do not play the same way and do not have the same toolkits. You'd have to be completely ignorant to think so.

[Lothaeryn]

Classes do not play the same way and do not have the same toolkits. You'd have to be completely ignorant to think so.

Even if they had the same toolkits they all have different mechanisms to achieve the same goal. Saying it's boring because everyone has your toys is a bullshit whine of a special snowflake.

[Video Games]

People kept telling others to roll those classes but people refused. Its your own fault really. Frost mage 4 lyfe

[Devilyaki]

Almost like classic isn't the best thing people say it was... Oh it's great if you play one of the not broken classes ..

[kingpinuk880]

In my opinion that’s why tbc is the best. Same core gameplay as classic, but better balance and you can actually play all the specs. Yes there is a hybrid tax, but nothing compared to classic where half the specs are dead

[Bigbazz]

In my opinion that’s why tbc is the best. Same core gameplay as classic, but better balance and you can actually play all the specs. Yes there is a hybrid tax, but nothing compared to classic where half the specs are dead

Yeah the class balance in PVE at the end of TBC 2.4.3 is actually really good, pretty much everything is viable and even "less viable" specs such as Feral DPS can actually pull very respectable numbers (rather than being literally useless as in Vanilla), it's probably one of the better balanced expansions in general with only a couple of outlier situations (warrior cleave, warlock aoe), and those outliers didn't matter because most raid content relied on single target dps.

[Dhrizzle]

I don't know why people are saying the OP should go back to the live game, forums full of whine about the crappy class design and balance are an essential part of the Vanilla experience.

[ONCHEhap]

joke of the year right here.

you mean the tuning where every MDI group takes 3 rogues?

or the ridiculous class stacking required to down mythic bosses? (notable shadow priests atm for example)

you can do MC with 40 paladins if you wanted, so the balance doesnt matter in the slightest

You just can't use esports as a reference for how the game really is
Extreme class stacking was always an issue in high end raiding,just a portion of the top 100 guilds competing in mythic raids,which is a small percentage of a small percentage of the playerbase

[Mister Cheese]

Asking for nerfs on a game you know isn't gonna be changed you're funny.

[ParanoiD84]

Well someones gotta be the best and someones gotta be at the bottom.

[Ranei]

No matter how much you kick, no matter how much you scream, no matter how much you cry:
There will be no changes.
Your forum whining won't work this time friend.
Retail is what happens when you cave to the forum whining. That is the result of this. It's what you created, go play it instead.

[Kithelle]

LOL for a moment i thought i was on retail subforum. I had to double check (>_<)

That makes no sense at all, but at least you tried I guess.

[Big Thanks]

That makes no sense at all, but at least you tried I guess.

How does asking for class balance in Classic makes any sense.
I legit thought that and had to double check.

[Kithelle]

How does asking for class balance in Classic makes any sense.
I legit thought that and had to double check.

Maybe I mistook it for something else, my fault.

[StrawberryZebra]

these kill speed are actually pretty hilarious especially when we are like week 3 in.

Those kill times, haahhaha

The fact that most of them are >1 min is shocking. Most of the Shazzrah kills are under 30 seconds. I realise they're probably going in buffed up to the eyeballs but they are just annhilating the content.

[kail]

No, if you are gonna lie, refrain to post stupid stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRzxQA1Y7V0

You posted a Method WF video because...

[Frozenbro]

You posted a Method WF video because...

Posted the context on the previous page since it wasn't clear enough but the guy i quoted first said that BFA balance in terms of spec stacking for DPS viability was worse than classic, when its completely false cause not even the world first did this.

[Nnyco]

While i agree that its extremly stupid how unbalanced classic is and how some classes are just way superior than others, it is afterall the pile of garbage people wanted.

[Hablion]

Welcome to Classic Vanilla

[valky94]

#NoChanges

people knew what they were going into

EDIT: either logs are bugged or all bosses in MC take less than 10 min to kill combined