After playing the game, do you agree with Blizzard's expected "steep drop-off"?

[markos82]

And I never encountered such things in current wow. I even checked one time during a quest how many items a mob would yield and in case of eyes, they never yield more than 2 for those who have only 2 eyes anyway. Try harder.

Dude I was saying if there are 5 people and you kill a mob that has 2 eyes 3 people can get 2 or some other number greater than 2. So you should try harder

[Specialka]

Dude I was saying if there are 5 people and you kill a mob that has 2 eyes 3 people can get 2 or some other number greater than 2. So you should try harder

And I say you that having to kill double the number of mobs to get your quest items is bad game design because it does not promote grouping. While most ppl claim than Classic is all about the community while its game design says the contrary.

[markos82]

And I say you that having to kill double the number of mobs to get your quest items is bad game design because it does not promote grouping. While most ppl claim than Classic is all about the community while its game design says the contrary.

There are more grouping in classic without that design that BfA will ever have with such design.

[anon5123]

And I say you that having to kill double the number of mobs to get your quest items is bad game design because it does not promote grouping. While most ppl claim than Classic is all about the community while its game design says the contrary.

You do realize that item-drop quests are not the only quests in the game, yes?

[chrisnumbers]

At level 30 I'm still competing for mobs tags, and dungeon groups fill in minutes. Sure there will be a drop off but it's no where in sight.

[erifwodahs]

Got to level 12. Kinda still want to play it, but can't be asked I really thought I would at least be hooked enough to reach 40

[liberaet]

What is your opinion after playing the game and CONSIDER in your opinion the current market of videogames?

I also think that Classic is the best game for me and I am looking to play it going forward. I see a lot of people rushing to 60 and rushing usually leads to burnout. I don't have as much time to play as I did 15 years ago, but I am taking it slow and I still enjoy Classic million times more than retail. I don't need these tangible results after every short playing session or whatever they call that crap.

As for others, maybe there will be a significant drop in interest (after all, the graphics are 15 years old), maybe it will not be significant as people are tired of shallow gameplay and want deeper RPGs like Classic, I am fine with anything now that Classic is here and I can enjoy it. I would only like future games to be like Classic, not as retail.

[glowpipe]

its been falling steadily since it released. When the first paid month is over. a LOT won't be resubbing.

[Kaleredar]

You do realize that tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands were donating money to play on private servers and for 10 years of not more? Friend was playing on one of the private servers for 5+ years and probably donated 500$ or more....

Like I said, I'm sure there are a scant handful of people who will gladly pay to do the same repetitive tasks over and over again.

As for private servers, they weren't 15 dollars a month, and allowed people to "stick it to blizzard" by paying the private server maintainers money instead of paying retail. Moreover, your evidence is anecdotal. You don't know how many people paid or didn't pay.

People now pay to do same world quests each and every fucking day, to do same dungeons over and over again and to do same raid for months until new one comes or until new expansion comes.

Except the difference is... new things DO come out on retail. You're literally paying for an endless content gap.

Also the question in classic/vanilla feel like real quests, questing feels like question, yes for lazy plebs it can be difficult to realize that but that's the life.

They have the exact same "kill bears, collect their asses" quests on live.

Because you can't pull as many mobs in classic doesn't make it more difficult or rewarding. It just makes it take more time.

[Daffan]

Personally, the #nochanges deal is one of the major reasons i am not playing Classic. There is a lot to love from vanilla, but having no changes kills it for me. To claim that patch 1.12 was the most complete patch from vanilla is nonsense. Developers knew that Burning Crusade was around the corner, and left things unfinished. Out of interest for Classic+, i do hope for a steep drop-off.

Yup. BusShock shamans anyone?

[Aeriedk]

I do believe that there will be a drop-off, but how steep? I don't know. I play on a couple different servers, all have regular queues in the evening. It feels like there are less players but now everyone is spread out across the level spectrum.

I know I resubbed for Classic, my wife and brother did the same. All three of us are upper 20s/lower 30s and we enjoy the grind of classic. Retail feels too easy. Gear comes to easy. I know they made it this way on purpose so that endgame content reached a broader audience, but when everyone can do it, it isn't as special. Just my opinion I don't need to hear anything about elitist attitudes. Just saying. Whenever you can do something that someone else can't it can be a satisfying feeling that just makes you feel a little special.

We'll see. I do get the itch to log in to retail, but once I log in I feel like there is nothing to do and log off and go on classic.

I'll be interested to see where classic is at 1 month from now, 3, 6, etc.

Oh and for the record my brother hasn't played wow since Cataclysm so it is definitely attracting some old school players. Not that cata is old school, like I said we all played vanilla.

[Nadiru]

And I say you that having to kill double the number of mobs to get your quest items is bad game design because it does not promote grouping.

Unless the mobs are tough enough that grouping lets you kill much more quickly, which is often the case for Classic quests.

[Osmeric]

More than a possibility ... the total number of people in our guild playing either WoW has dropped off dramatically in the last 2 weeks.

Originally it split into three - Retail, Classic PvE and Classic PvP.

I love playing Retail WoW ... I don't even want to stop playing, imagine all those people that were just hanging on.

Well, the guild my main is in just suspended raiding for the rest of the tier. It was the only remaining guild on the server that had any M EP progression, but after classic released could not field enough sufficiently skilled/geared people to continue.

We'll see if it falls apart, or if M raiding picks up again next tier. I think Blizzard is going to see low progression numbers for the rest of this tier.

[Vivapin8]

Well, the guild my main is in just suspended raiding for the rest of the tier. It was the only remaining guild on the server that had any M EP progression, but after classic released could not field enough sufficiently skilled/geared people to continue.

We'll see if it falls apart, or if M raiding picks up again next tier. I think Blizzard is going to see low progression numbers for the rest of this tier.

Ah so that's the real reason so many people are shit@$! on classic, I was wondering why they couldn't let others play in peace...

[Specialka]

Ah so that's the real reason so many people are shit@$! on classic, I was wondering why they couldn't let others play in peace...

Nah, that's just the classic crowd being just itself.

[bloomy]

i hope they are right, if i get on any time past 10am i sit in a queue for a few hours and that's with layering. as layers get removed queue times will go up... so i need A LOT of people to quit so i can enjoy the game without queues.

please, i urge you all, quit the game. it's not even fun lmao.

[Osmeric]

Ah so that's the real reason so many people are shit@$! on classic, I was wondering why they couldn't let others play in peace...

I blame it more on the state of retail, myself. I think Classic just pushed it over a threshold.

[Acolyyte]

I love the grandpa bullshit. As if finding Classic a dull grind means you are a child ... since obviously everyone over some subjective age cutoff just loves one tedious grind after another.

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That's the thing with layers though ... you wouldn't notice until it's down to 1 layer and it keeps dropping. I hope that doesn't happen because then it will suck for everyone. It's just not a good game to play without an adequately supporting population.

Wow classic is not an endless grind. Leveling is not that hard. I've leveled mostly through questing and doing dungeons with friends, having a fucking great time in discord. We challenge ourselves, like four manning SM without a tank, and have a wonderful time. I'm mid 40s and I only play at night after the wife and kid have gone to bed.

The times I do grind, like when i'm farming tailoring mats, I genuinely enjoy it. That's because I have a very mentally demanding job (i'm a motion graphics artist and 3d animator) and a family to take care of. I don't mind turning my brain off and putting on some good music and doing something repetitive for a bit.

I'm in my mid 30s and play mostly with people of the same age. We value community. Which is why Classic is perfect for us.

[ifrah]

i hope they are right, if i get on any time past 10am i sit in a queue for a few hours and that's with layering. as layers get removed queue times will go up... so i need A LOT of people to quit so i can enjoy the game without queues.

please, i urge you all, quit the game. it's not even fun lmao.

Once the larger pack reaches 60 in perhaps a month or so, the quit train starts to roll. Feel free to come back and quote me if I was wrong.

[Drusin]

Hell yeah there'll be a dropoff lol. That's why I didn't want them to add more servers. Just suck that shit up and sit in a Q, wait a month and see if the Q's are still there.