The Next WoW class in 9.0

[Revamp Man]

That all depends on how leveling experience would be, if blizzard won't change a shit, no matter what class they introduce leveling will be slog.
If we get revamped leveling, i would feel excited even if it will be my 14 max level alt (mostly because last time i leveled was 2 years ago).

Revamped leveling and hero classes is a monster on its own

How would it interact with heritage armor is my biggest concern.

The dragon class would possibly have a similar issue but it's very likely we have the races already because wrathion

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The Tinker would more than likely start from level 1, and be similar to the Monk in that the class itself wouldn't be called Tinker, but one of the specs (probably DPS) would. If I had to guess, I would say the specs would be Mekkgineer for tanking (mech piloting), Tinker(er) for DPS (Probably a mix of HotS and WC3 Tinker w/ clawpack), and Technician for healing (using derivatives of the Goblin Alchemist's abilities along with tech-based healing abilities like Healbot and Bandage Gun). In that scenario, I have no idea what they would call the class itself.

Mechanic maybe?

What would the leveling mechanic be?

For example the monk got the daily 30% exp bonus

[Teriz]

What would the leveling mechanic be?

For example the monk got the daily 30% exp bonus

Probably something similar. It shouldn't be too difficult for Blizzard to come up with something like the Monk exp bonus to help the leveling process.

[Triceron]

Utilizing Titan tech to fight against the Old Gods isn't a valid purpose/motive in an expansion based around fighting the Old Gods?

Also it should be noted that while we're pretending that replicating Titan tech is some impossible goal, the lowly engineering profession allows you to build Titan devices via Jeeves.

Sure, its relevent if its accessible to all classes like the Heart of Azeroth or Mechagon gadgets.

What you describe though is a giant shoehorning of concepts.

#notmytinker

[Teriz]

Sure, its relevent if its accessible to all classes like the Heart of Azeroth or Mechagon gadgets.

What you describe though is a giant shoehorning of concepts.

#notmytinker

Artifacts would be available to all classes, but there's nothing wrong with a technology class utilizing titan technology, since its an aspect of technology in WoW. No different than a Shadow-based class or spec having access to the Shadow magic of the Old Gods (Spriest).

[Triceron]

Artifacts would be available to all classes, but there's nothing wrong with a technology class utilizing titan technology, since its an aspect of technology in WoW. No different than a Shadow-based class or spec having access to the Shadow magic of the Old Gods (Spriest).

Actually, it would diminish the cultural themes of the Tinkers tech greatly if it were themed under titan tech. It would intrude more than support.

No longer would the Tinker be known as an inventor. Instead they simply reappropriate some ancient tech they didn't actually invent. They can't invent Titan tech, after all.

[kaminaris]

Actually, it would diminish the cultural themes of the Tinkers tech greatly if it were themed under titan tech. It would intrude more than support.

No longer would the Tinker be known as an inventor. Instead they simply reappropriate some ancient tech they didn't actually invent. They can't invent Titan tech, after all.

Why? Once they get to know how titan tech works they sure can invent new stuff in that field.

[Teriz]

Actually, it would diminish the cultural themes of the Tinkers tech greatly if it were themed under titan tech. It would intrude more than support.

No longer would the Tinker be known as an inventor. Instead they simply reappropriate some ancient tech they didn't actually invent. They can't invent Titan tech, after all.

Nah. There's plenty of examples of inventions and innovations merely being derivatives of previously lost or repurposed technology.

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Why? Once they get to know how titan tech works they sure can invent new stuff in that field.

Exactly.
@Triceron is simply trying to come up with petty excuses.

[tyrlaan]

Wait, why are we incorporating titan tech into a tinker class now??

In my lack of concern over tinker (since I'm fine if we get it, fine if we don't) apparently the class conceptualization here has gone a bit... further.

[PopVanish]

I would love to see a Tinker. Count me in. 100%.

[Teriz]

Wait, why are we incorporating titan tech into a tinker class now??

In my lack of concern over tinker (since I'm fine if we get it, fine if we don't) apparently the class conceptualization here has gone a bit... further.

Merely showing how Blizzard can justify a technology-based class in an Old Gods expansion. There should be no issue with a class based on Technology utilizing a technology concept such as Titan technology. Especially if it has been established that the races of Azeroth have already utilized it for various purposes.

[Wangming]

Ah...I understand now.
I'm reminded of Kevin Seimbeda and his "Rifts" rpg (pen and paper) when hearing complaints about his "glitterboy" and how OP it was compared to other classes. And his response was basically, "Yes. Some classes will be that strong compared to others. It's the GM's job to make it all work together."

Of course this has little bearing here. But there was a couple of months when our then new hero class "Deathknight" was pretty much OP. And I thought it was appropriate. If there was a pvp issue then it should have been settled by opposing DKs in the other faction....os so went my thought...maybe it would have just got messy if that had been a thing.

Ah yes. I remember that.

Blizz: DK is not OP than other classes. Hero class just means it doesn't start at level 1.
*DK end us being OP*

Shocked Pikachu face.

[Triceron]

Why? Once they get to know how titan tech works they sure can invent new stuff in that field.

Not my point.

Point is why they even need Titan tech. Goblin and Gnome tech does the job sufficiently, is appropriately themed to the class.

Titan tech convolutes the class identity. It's not like an option of 'oh this one ability taps into Titan tech'. Once you unlock its secrets, there's really no reason for a Tinker to be using anything less.

It's a catch-22. If you're using Titan tech, then you're re-appropriating existing technology. If you're inventing 'new stuff in that field' then it's not really Titan tech any more, it's Tinker tech. And the plain fact is the Tinker class doesn't need to depend on Titan technology whatsoever, to the point where even including it would divert the class themes away from particular cultures.

I mean isn't the point of a Tinker to explore Gnome and Goblins more? Well if they're gonna use Titan tech, then we might as well open the class up to all races who have a connection to the Titans.

[Alopex Major]

I just want them to fix the existing classes.

[Cockus Maximus]

Hoping for Dark Ranger or Timewalker. Dark Ranger seems more likely though, so I voted for that.

[Fred Skinner]

I will make a party if it is not tinkers for 9.0.

Anyone attends?

[Ielenia]

Utilizing Titan tech to fight against the Old Gods isn't a valid purpose/motive in an expansion based around fighting the Old Gods?

Then that would make much more sense as a mechanic system like the Azerite necklace, going for all classes, since all classes would be fighting the Old Gods, and not just the tinkers.

[GMZohar1]

Next Class will be Tinkerer, 2 specs same abilities as everyone else. 1 resource generating ability 1 small spammable dmg that takes a little resource 1 high 6-8 sec CD high resource spender 1 Aoe.. It will be a copy-paste of DH just you know renamed abilities with different animations... Cause.. You know.. Blizzard

[Teriz]

Then that would make much more sense as a mechanic system like the Azerite necklace, going for all classes, since all classes would be fighting the Old Gods, and not just the tinkers.

I dont recall every class getting demon hunter abilities and items when we fought the Legion...

[shade3891]

Minigun rockets laser blasters bombs drones mini helper bots, Tinkers could be so much fun

[Teriz]

Not my point.

Point is why they even need Titan tech. Goblin and Gnome tech does the job sufficiently, is appropriately themed to the class.

Titan tech convolutes the class identity. It's not like an option of 'oh this one ability taps into Titan tech'. Once you unlock its secrets, there's really no reason for a Tinker to be using anything less.

It's a catch-22. If you're using Titan tech, then you're re-appropriating existing technology. If you're inventing 'new stuff in that field' then it's not really Titan tech any more, it's Tinker tech. And the plain fact is the Tinker class doesn't need to depend on Titan technology whatsoever, to the point where even including it would divert the class themes away from particular cultures.

I mean isn't the point of a Tinker to explore Gnome and Goblins more? Well if they're gonna use Titan tech, then we might as well open the class up to all races who have a connection to the Titans.

Except the entire theme wouldn't be Titan tech, it would be technology. Titan technology is part of the technology theme of WoW, and it should be part of a technology-based class by default. Again, if Blizzard brings in this class, it wouldn't be a Tinker class, it would be a class where Tinker is a spec within it, much like the Brewmaster and the Monk class.