Is it? I have yet to see a blood elf being addressed as peasant or something like that. Their society is divided by arcane prowess and wealth
None of that helped Illidan either, Kael simply caused too much damage to his people to be forgiven.Let's blame his actions on fel confusion. Which would make sense.
With saving them during crisis.
It is. Ask Blizzard, maybe they will write a quest for you.
Illidan wasn't a ruler. Illidan was his own man. Kael could be controlled. Forgiven? They don't need to forgive him, just see the benefits he offers and godlike form would most definitely come with treasures.
Alliance has Anduin, Jaina, Malfurion, Velen, Tyrande and so on while Horde has no powerful leaders except for Thalyssra and Sylvanas who are still weak in comparison to Jaina. It is fair to give Horde something cool once.
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RIP Skovald.
If you want remove Lorthemar put Rommanth, he is cool
Kael cannot lead beyond the grave, he is dead, and people would not want it, after what he did
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I actually enjoy Lor'themar. Though he does need better / more writing. He's the only believable leader right now. The only one with a brain to think, man maybe having a war every 6 months only to end it in mutual cooperation isn't a good idea. We should skip that whole war process.
That's the point. You can't rise from the dead if you are alive. What he did can be easily retconned and still make sense. Not that he should lick the boots of BE but subjugate them like Sylvanas does. The very presence of God King should pull their knees down.
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Warcraft needs war.
Why would the population just give up their blood status? Some of them were just more involved in the founding era and that is where the schism began, you have the great houses, but things like peasants do not exist in thalassian society. You are free to provide evidence to the contrary.
Or he could just stay dead.Illidan wasn't a ruler. Illidan was his own man. Kael could be controlled. Forgiven? They don't need to forgive him, just see the benefits he offers and godlike form would most definitely come with treasures.
I will grant this. If/when Sylvanas finally dies, as she seems very unlikely to maintain her position in the Horde to the end of the expansion at the very least, the Horde will be significantly short on "cool and powerful characters." Garrosh's warrior archetype being gone, Thrall's nerfed, and losing Sylvanas by whatever means, I'm not sure what that leaves them with. The other Horde leaders are interesting, but not "bring a giant arcane-powered battleship to siege a fortress" or "literally the avatar of a goddess" powerful.
Gallywix and his giant azer-mech? I have nothing against seeing more of that, for sure. But if azerite is de-powered at the end of the expansion, he will lose that. </3
We literally go to war with otherworldly entities every single expansion. That you people believe the war implies it must be between horde and alliance, is not only stupid..it's played out.
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Literally, blizzard seems hellbent on removing any horde leader worth noting.
He "considered old alliances" at one point, but that was because Garrosh was stark raving mad and had just indirectly caused a massacre of his people, which he didn't even have the decency to apologize for, so the Horde wasn't exactly showing itself to be a good resource investment.
Like all the Horde leaders, first and foremost is their people. The Horde must continually prove that the allegiance is a net benefit to their people.
Yes, it is.
No, it wouldn't, because you can't just smash a beheaded corpse and a phoenix egg together and combine them into one being... And because of the lack of the aforementioned corpses' brain, that being wouldn't even be Kael'thas as it wouldn't have any of his memories.And it would actually make sense.
Also Al'ar is in my bags, Kael can't have him back, he's mine, I won him fair and square.
Kael was a power hungry psychopath who joined forces with the Burning Legion to bring on the destruction of the entire universe, he should not be leader of anything, he should stay dead.
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With OP just banned, I do still think the thread should stay up on the side topic:
What other ideas can you think of that would give the Horde faction more "Jaina/Tyrande tier powerful main characters?"
The notion of taking from the power of the Sunwell could be interesting for Lor'themar maybe, but it'd need an extreme, real external threat. Maybe the Alliance sets out to finish conquering the Eastern Kingdoms since the Horde has been going after Kalimdor, leading them right to Quel'thalas? There's even already a black scar there, they can just take that express route! Lor'themar resorts to absorbing a huge amount of energy from the Sunwell, manages to beat back the Alliance forces, and afterwards finally decides to set aside the regent-lord title and be crowned amidst the high demand for it from the blood elves.
I could see the forces being lead by Tyrande and Alleria, with a big "Battle of Sun and Moon" theme.
How's that? Better?
wouldn't put it past blizz, but it would require a patch or two of questlines for it to be plausible.
i don't really see the need though. i wouldn't be suprised if more people know who lorthermar is these days than kael' thas, many people around now who didn't play war3 or tbc and lothermar has been getting quite a lot of cinematic time last few expansions.