The War Campaign Finale Cinematics

[un_known]

the thing that annoys me more than anything right now. the two thumbnails, one anduin has bushy eyebrows and a massive nose while the other has trim eyebrows and a short pushed up nose! why can't they get them the same even though one is a proper full blown cinematic and the other is ingame?????? XD

[Mogai]

Make sure you watch the Sylvanas loyalist cinematic, it's probably more important than both of these cinematics

[Castration]

hahahhaah

yet another cinematic written by a 12 year old.

[shade3891]

Make sure you watch the Sylvanas loyalist cinematic, it's probably more important than both of these cinematics

Link ? /10char

[MiiiMiii]

BOOOORING!!! The only thing BfA got going for it, was the storyline. and it 's now boring as fuck. Ok...

[Quaade]

I'm glad that at least Saurfang acknowledges the reality of the Horde's foundation. Perhaps this whole mess will lead to some reflection amongst the orcs that their foundational myths are pure BS. Only by acknowledging their ugly past instead of hiding behind a myth like nationalists and supremacists can they ever move forward and become closer to the thing they imagine them as coming from.

[shade3891]

I totally expected Anduin to do a big healing spell and save him.

[joxur]

so the conclusion was 10 minutes of gather quests and a scenario where we all gathered at org to fight, saurfang got beat by sylvanus in literally 5 seconds, then we just went home. that's what we pay $15 a month for

[Redecle]

Is it over...?

At long last.

No more faction war. Wohoo!
Finally we can now get some more interesting stories that aren't the same faction conflict every other expansion.

Question with BFA remains, is Sylvanas with N'zoth or with death itself? Plot thickens.
Her path is just beginning now that she's free of the stupid war conflict.
As long as it's not yet again another redemption story.
Or we just kill her off in the last raid, death might not be the answer.
Her judgment day is coming..

[OokOok]

So it's going to be one of those stories that makes no sense, where we're able to defeat a fully unleashed old god but the next expansion we can't kill an elf who was raised by arthas

makes sense

[Sorshen]

Link ? /10char

[shade3891]

Who is Sylvanas feeding the souls ? Helya? In exchange for what? Did she burn down Teldrasil in order to feed ?? souls as well?

[Darklurker]

The script sounds like a compilation of failed one-liners.

"You cannot kill hope"
Morally Gray/10

[Lightforged]

The cinematic team need raises because that was FANTASTIC!

I like how Saurfang knew he could not win, and so his whole strategy was to bait Sylvanas into making a mistake. He won the moment she said she did not care about the horde. This was a nice way to end this storyline, which I feared was just going to end in the Siege of Orgrimmar 2.0.

i feel like the Sylvannas loyalist in game cinematic also helps illuminate her position and sets her up to be the herald of Death (which means, maybe, the 9.0 leak that happened is actually real...).

Link ? /10char

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG9w0BMLv0U

Pretty good, Sylvnas has a grander plan and clearly she is serving the true master of death.

[Halyon]

Taking WAR out of WARcraft is a genius move!
Congratulations writing team!
Blizzard could literally hire The Last Jedi screenwriter and he still wouldn't fuck the story up this bad.

...Azeroth is at war constantly with other shit than just the next-door neighbour. War won't be lost over uniting the factions, if anything, its a chance to make the writing better so we don't have to suffer more of this BS they're asspulling.

[Hinastorm]

What are you talking about...never made sense from a design standpoint...it was at the very core of the entire Warcraft and Wow franchise...it motivated people to become highly invested in both their characters and faction..it powered several expansion's worth of content...it generated massive amounts of world pvp at a time when there was limited content in the original game...people say Vanilla wouldn't succeed if it was introduced today...you know what would never have succeeded either...the watered down, faction-less hamster wheel that Retail currently is if was introduced back in 2005...without the faction war WoW would never have become as popular as it did.

You know why their considering removing it...it's mostly because the player base has declined so much they don't have the in-game metrics that head office wants to justify the development time on separate alliance / horde story lines / quests etc. Additionally, with having relented previously and given both faction every type of class they've diluted their own faction identity so much that it leads to people like you saying it never made design sense to begin with. This is a classic case of Blizzard giving an inch that gradually leads to a mile. I also assume they think it will be easier to balance in some way in regards to pvp (no more alliance / horde racial or something like that).

And here's another thing you can count on. If they get rid of the factions they'll come up with some BS line about why it no longer makes sense and the fanboys will cling to that and forever repeat it just like the BS line they came up with when they said the old talent trees weren't worth it because adding 1% hit didn't feel meaningful etc. That, of course, was just corporate BS for we don't want to work so hard and can't figure out how to balance classes as is, let alone with more lvls, so we'll bake all that stuff into the character and add one talent every 15 levels and call it a day because that should require a lot less work and be easier to balance (though it should be noted they still can't balance crap). It was never because the talent tree idea (especially when tied into the levelling process as it was in Vanilla) was a bad idea...in fact it was intrinsically a good idea and why they are thinking of bringing a form of it back in Retail...but rather Blizzard just getting lazy. Yet people fail to see through their corporate BS every time they do something similar.

Retail WoW is the mess it is because of 2 simple factors 1) bean counting from Activision leading to game design systems that are cheap to implement, repeat and promote certain metrics but are far from entertaining and 2) a complete failure to resist demands for changes to core elements of the game (like which classes can be which faction) that when combined together with other changes lead to unintended consequences and a product that is barely recognizable in many ways. That lack of integrity is what killed WoW for many.

I'm sure that motivated some people. WoW is a PvE game at it's core, and that is why me and most people are here. Dividing a PvE playerbase in half never made any sense.

I still wish WoW was 2 seperate games, one pve and one pvp. But alas.

[Daldain]

Hey Saurfang, how long does it take to do a corpse run from Razor Hill?

[Selinde]

So why the hell did she run off? Did...did the rebels win? I mean, Etrigg is just setting in the throne room like I didn't beat his ass and drag him across half the city. Anduin got to walk through the front gate...Did they all just build a siege just to watch one duel? A duel Sylvanas easily won? WHAT JUST HAPPENED?

The siege was real. Everyone was prepared to fight a war. Saurfang wanted to prevent casualties and challenged Sylvanas.

She ran off because she fucked up. When she revealed her true feelings by saying "The Horde is nothing!" the forsaken accompanying her side-eyed her and she realized she fucked up. So she basically yolo'd the situation and just let everyone know that she sees all of them as puppets and they mean nothing.
All the horde that was still following her would probably not follow her anymore and she would have no chance against the entire horde and alliance combined, so she ran. The loyalists accepted the rebels and now everyone is on the same side (even the forsaken) so she opened the Orgrimmar gates for Thrall and Anduin.

[joxur]

The siege was real. Everyone was prepared to fight a war. Saurfang wanted to prevent casualties and challenged Sylvanas. She ran off because she fucked up. When she revealed her true feelings by saying "The Horde is nothing!" the forsaken accompanying her side-eyed her and she realized she fucked up. So she basically yolo'd the situation and just let everyone know that she sees all of them as puppets and they mean nothing. All the horde that was still following her would probably not follow her anymore and she would have no chance against the entire horde and alliance combined, so she ran. The loyalists accepted the rebels and now everyone is on the same side (even the forsaken) so she opened the Orgrimmar gates for Thrall and Anduin.

That's essentially the long and short of it. Of course, this paragraph is more useful and descriptive of what transpired than the high budget cinematic was. Logically nothing that just happened made any sense at all.

[Darklurker]

Remember the great conspiracy of who set Teldrassil on fire? It was just Sylvanas.
Was the war some 5D chess move to in the end defeat N'Zoth, maybe? Nope, turns out they're kinda aligned. It's not even regular, 2D chess.

Maybe the real Morally Gray are the friends we made along the way.