Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst
1
2
3
LastLast
  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    You can buy a model 3 for 30-40k. A Honda is about 30-40k...

    - - - Updated - - -



    They do have instant acceleration and are better off the line than conventional engines.

    The only car I can think of that comes close is a non-electric Porsche that uses electric motors for that quick acceleration.
    Lol not even close. Honda Accord brand new is around 24k.

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    did you not watch the vid, the lambo only beat the Tesla by less than a secound and the Tesla is heavier and less aerodynamic.
    I did watch it. It negates half of what you state, and doesn't even start to entertain the top speed portion.

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by melodramocracy View Post
    I did watch it. It negates half of what you state, and doesn't even start to entertain the top speed portion.
    the new tesla 2020 roadster has a top speed of 250 mph and and does 0 to 60 in 1.9 sec

    for comparison the fastest road legal car is the Bugatti Chiron Sport the tops out at 261 and does 0 to 60 in 2.5 sec

    the 2nd place is Mercedes-AMG Project One which is clocked at 217.

    so on release the new tesla is the 2nd fastest top speed car on the planet and the fastest 0 to 60 on the planet beating the current best Ferrari LaFerrari (2.4 seconds) by .5 seconds.

    and this is just the base model of the new roadster in tests.

    in that video you saw the estate family car tesla coming within half a secound of a modern lambo and you want to call electric cars slow ?

    unless america has some real problem with criminals using top high end Italian super cars as get away vehicles the police wont be troubled by much on the road driving a Tesla.
    Last edited by Monster Hunter; 2019-09-26 at 11:04 PM.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    Lol not even close. Honda Accord brand new is around 24k.
    Hondas run from 24-40k+

    Tesla 3 runs from 36k -57k or so.

    Note the savings on gas and maintenance though of an electric over a traditional.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    the new tesla 2020 roadster has a top speed of 250 mph and and does 0 to 60 in 1.9 sec
    Let's see the run then. The car is vaporware currently.

    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    for comparison the fastest road legal car is the Bugatti Chiron Sport the tops out at 261 and does 0 to 60 in 2.5 sec
    This isn't true. Koenigsegg hit an average of 271'is a few years ago, and Bugatti recently went 300 in a Chiron, though that admittedly wasn't "completely" stock.

    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    the 2nd place is Mercedes-AMG Project One which is clocked at 217.
    Either is this. Where are you getting this info exactly.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by melodramocracy View Post
    Let's see the run then. The car is vaporware currently.



    This isn't true. Koenigsegg hit an average of 271'is a few years ago, and Bugatti recently went 300 in a Chiron, though that admittedly wasn't "completely" stock.



    Either is this. Where are you getting this info exactly.
    ok so then if its released with only its prototype test numbers as its top speed then it will be the 3rd fastest car in the world and the 1st in 0 to 60. still far far far from slow.

  7. #27
    Old God Vash The Stampede's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Better part of NJ
    Posts
    10,939
    Quote Originally Posted by kail View Post
    He ran out of fuel. What's the news?
    With a gas powered car he could refuel it and the person would still get away. Yea, there's no real story here. Refuel the vehicle before driving it around town.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    the new tesla 2020 roadster has a top speed of 250 mph and and does 0 to 60 in 1.9 sec

    for comparison the fastest road legal car is the Bugatti Chiron Sport the tops out at 261 and does 0 to 60 in 2.5 sec

    the 2nd place is Mercedes-AMG Project One which is clocked at 217.

    so on release the new tesla is the 2nd fastest top speed car on the planet and the fastest 0 to 60 on the planet beating the current best Ferrari LaFerrari (2.4 seconds) by .5 seconds.

    and this is just the base model of the new roadster in tests.

    in that video you saw the estate family car tesla coming within half a secound of a modern lambo and you want to call electric cars slow ?

    unless america has some real problem with criminals using top high end Italian super cars as get away vehicles the police wont be troubled by much on the road driving a Tesla.
    Electric cars have an advantage in the 0-60 mph / 0-100 kmh race, which is why car manufacturer are now emphasizing their 0-120 mph / 0-200 kmh values, where conventional cars display better performance.

    Also, in addition to the meager high performance range, electric cars won't necessarily be able to consistently push series of accelerations, per the limitations of their capacitors.
    "It is every citizen's final duty to go into the tanks, and become one with all the people."

    ~ Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang, "Ethics for Tomorrow"

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Found it pretty interesting they are testing out full electric cars.

    Do you believe this is a good or bad idea?
    To be fair, the same situation is just as likely to occur if the cars ran on gas.

    There is plenty to be said of the wisdom of using a full electric vehicle considering the constant electrical draw of police equipment and the inconvenience of charging the battery.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Hunter View Post
    did you not watch the vid, the lambo only beat the Tesla by less than a secound and the Tesla is heavier and less aerodynamic.
    Teslas are definitely more aerodynamic. You are falling into a pretty common logical fallacy, you see a wedged shaped sports car and assume it's more aerodynamic than a Honda Civic or any other kind of normal car. Sports cars tend to be way less aerodynamic than other vehicles. Sports cars are designed to funnel passing air and use it to increase grip through forcing the vehicle down onto the surface, which increases drag.

    If you want an easier way of thinking of it, if a Tesla is a plane flying normally, a Lambo would be a plane flying with its flaps constantly deployed.

  10. #30
    Stealthed Defender unbound's Avatar
    7+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Location
    All that moves is easily heard in the void.
    Posts
    6,798
    Quote Originally Posted by SavoirFaire View Post
    So what’s the recharge time on these vehicles? Only takes a few minutes to top off a gas car, is it hours with the Tesla? If that is the case they likely have to rotate it out of service during a charge session which is more downtime than a comparable gas vehicle would require.

    Before someone jumps in on a tangent, drive a fusion hybrid, so this isn’t bashing electric.
    /shrug

    Cars were dramatically inferior to horses for the first 15 to 20 years or so of their development, and even after that time there were reasonable arguments to be made in favor of horses over cars (after all, horses remained faster and more reliable than cars off road). Even today, horses are better suited for some situations.

    We are likely still a good many years off from seeing electric cars being clearly superior in most ways, and there will always be an argument in favor of other types of cars.

  11. #31
    The purpose of this article and thread was to draw out all the anti electric car idiots. I'd say it worked.

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Medium9 View Post
    Yeah. No need to read further. It's their own fault using a 5 year old battery at 50% load for this. Maybe don't get the low-end capacity for official usage, refurb the battery, and get a fucking super charger if the schedule is tighter than the charge cycle. This is 100% on the idiots running that department, not the car.
    Sounds like they should just stick with internal combustion instead of electric.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    You can buy a model 3 for 30-40k. A Honda is about 30-40k...

    - - - Updated - - -



    They do have instant acceleration and are better off the line than conventional engines.

    The only car I can think of that comes close is a non-electric Porsche that uses electric motors for that quick acceleration.
    If you're thinking of the 911 Turbo S, the only car I can think of able to beat Tesla as you also suspect, that car does not use electric motors to get off the line. It just uses Porsche's tried and true method of putting the engine right over the rear axle, giving it all wheel drive for a bonus, and then throwing some super wide tires in the back.

    Sorry, but the 911 Turbo S is one of my dream cars I'd do dirty things for, and I think it's incredible how it can still offer better acceleration and top end speed vs a Tesla.

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Easo View Post
    So basically the problem was that the car was overused. Same as if the tank would not have been filled up in time, because officers would not have been given time to visit gas station.
    What is the issue, exactly?
    Filling with gas doesn't take as long as having to charge a car overnight.

  15. #35
    The Insane draynay's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    California
    Posts
    18,814
    Perhaps they will make adjustments to their 50% battery life policy. It sounds like they are impressed with its field performance and its good that they were able to get this additional experience without any negative outcome.
    /s

  16. #36
    Merely a Setback Adam Jensen's Avatar
    10+ Year Old Account
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Sarif Industries, Detroit
    Posts
    29,063
    Quote Originally Posted by Kumorii View Post
    Not even sure why this is newsworthy when even the department says running out of gas happens but no one cares to make news of it, for good reason...yet they made an article about it. *shrug*
    It's a news story because it implies "electric cars are bad"
    Putin khuliyo

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    You can buy a model 3 for 30-40k. A Honda is about 30-40k...

    - - - Updated - - -



    They do have instant acceleration and are better off the line than conventional engines.

    The only car I can think of that comes close is a non-electric Porsche that uses electric motors for that quick acceleration.
    My dad got a used 30k mile 2017 Tesla S for 44k. With an electric car the energy companies offer you a different deal where energy spent after 9 PM and before 4 PM is 50% less so my dad charges at 9 pm. He has an hour and a half commutes sometimes and it works fine for him. Great acceleration too.

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    My dad got a used 30k mile 2017 Tesla S for 44k. With an electric car the energy companies offer you a different deal where energy spent after 9 PM and before 4 PM is 50% less so my dad charges at 9 pm. He has an hour and a half commutes sometimes and it works fine for him. Great acceleration too.
    I think once you take into account the amount of money saved from not using gas it becomes quite cheaper than a Honda.

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by dunhildas View Post
    Filling with gas doesn't take as long as having to charge a car overnight.
    Well, the situation is similar to when you do not fill the tank, because you did not have time, no matter how little it takes. What then?
    Sure, the charging could be faster, but technology is advancing rapidly in that direction.

    Really cannot help but feel that the news story was written just because "electric cars bad".

  20. #40
    Using Teslas is not economically possible.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •