*Spoilers* Tyrande's reaction to end of 4th war

[nonameelf]

Literally none of the current Horde leadership, with the exception of perhaps Talanji, actively want war. This is the first time the Horde hasn't had a complete, hitler level warmonger among it's leadership - there's no reason to believe this will happen again. Blizzard clearly are done with the faction conflict at this point - they wouldn't have taken the story this way otherwise

And that's what people said when Vol'jin was made Warchief, but look, it came back around again and the night elves got fucked over again.

[Darkeon]

She'll either come to terms with her human lords or die.

Kinda reminds me of Greymane.

[KaPe]

While I would agree to this...

N'ZOTH IS OUT AND DOING SHIT! FUCK OFF, YOU ELUNE EMPOWERED SLUT! GOD DAMN!

Funny how N'zoth is out because Sylvanas made a deal with Azshara. Killing that Death Empowered Slut should be a pretty high priority for both sides, not merely limited to one racial leader.

[Kyphael]

none may stand between a writer and his wish fulfillment of an elf wife.

Watch a fourth Windrunner sister emerge from obscurity and fall in love with a dead-eye Stormwind human called "Nio Kostashazzi."

[Every Pwny]

I'm saying she needs to be killed off because she's a trash character and I think we need an Alliance villain for once. Her committing treason is just helps me justify it, really.

Fair enough, but she needs to do something worth of being killed off, not just disagreeing with Anduin. So far she literally has done nothing, she couldn't even take Darkshore with her Elune power up, so she is not a threat to anyone at this point.

[roahn the warlock]

She has disobeyed orders from her king TWICE NOW so that she can continue with her bloody rampage on Kalimdor. In a monarchy, that's considered high treason.

Except Tyrande is a "Queen" of her own people. Anduin is King of the Humans, not the whole Alliance. Blizzard is just too lazy to have more than one leader at the same time.

[TheRevenantHero]

Except Tyrande is a "Queen" of her own people. Anduin is King of the Humans, not the whole Alliance. Blizzard is just too lazy to have more than one leader at the same time.

No, he is the High King of the Alliance.

[TheFirstOnes]

Funny how N'zoth is out because Sylvanas made a deal with Azshara. Killing that Death Empowered Slut should be a pretty high priority for both sides, not merely limited to one racial leader.

Kinda? Sylvanas' Plan anyway was to kill N'zoth in order for him to "serve" death. Something of which Azshara caught onto rather quickly, and also despised. Not to mention that N'zoth himself is trying to corrupt Azeroth's World Soul...

I mean...

Sylvanas isn't the biggest threat here.

[KaPe]

Fair enough, but she needs to do something worth of being killed off, not just disagreeing with Anduin. So far she literally has done nothing, she couldn't even take Darkshore with her Elune power up, so she is not a threat to anyone at this point.

Not to mention that she doesn't say anything outrageous. "My hunger for vengeance will not be sated so long as Sylvanas Windrunner remains free" - who would actually disagree with this? The main villain behind the current war is running free, together with her top lackey, and scheming something far worse than she already did. Finding and killing her should be one of the top priorities for both Horde and the Alliance... but obviously Anduin cannot say that. He'd probably try to negotiate with her or something, instead of blasting her with Light.

Kinda? Sylvanas' Plan anyway was to kill N'zoth in order for him to "serve" death. Something of which Azshara caught onto rather quickly, and also despised. Not to mention that N'zoth himself is trying to corrupt Azeroth's World Soul...

I mean...

Sylvanas isn't the biggest threat here.

Anduin doesn't even mention her when talking about the Horde. At very least he could have agreed that finding and punishing both her and Nathanos is important. Who would actually disagree with this? Matthias Shaw/Uncrowned/whoever else should be working their asses off to track her down. Characters (other than Tyrande) should at least pretend that dealing with genocidal undead warlord does matter.

[Soon-TM]

He is. Tyrande accepted his father as her High King.

1) The High King position is (or at least was) supposed to be a purely military one, without any political powers attached.

2) The High King position isn't hereditary.

3) The Alliance as a whole has failed spectacularly in protecting the NEs' lands, so making any legal claims might end up pissing up even the most Alliance-loyal NEs. Anduin wouldn't be dumb enough to do that... would he?

[roahn the warlock]

No, he is the High King of the Alliance.

The "High King" of the Alliance is equivalent to Eisenhower being the Commander General of the Allied forces in WW2. If Anduin is FDR, Tyrande is Churchill. He has no say over her. It's an Alliance, not a unified country.

And it's not the first time the Alliance has lost a country based on their unwillingness to help. There's a reason Blood Elves are Horde.

[Nirathiel]

Who in their right mind would side with Anduin?

Christie Golden and her fanboys?

[TheRevenantHero]

The "High King" of the Alliance is equivalent to Eisenhower being the Commander General of the Allied forces in WW2. If Anduin is FDR, Tyrande is Churchill. He has no say over her. It's an Alliance, not a unified country.

Except....no. The Alliance government is a monarchy. Tyrande called Varian her King. Is she suddenly going to go back on that mentality just because his son took over?

[eurojust]

1) The High King position is (or at least was) supposed to be a purely military one, without any political powers attached.

2) The High King position isn't hereditary.

3) The Alliance as a whole has failed spectacularly in protecting the NEs' lands, so making any legal claims might end up pissing up even the most Alliance-loyal NEs. Anduin wouldn't be dumb enough to do that... would he?

I always thought that High King was the King of all alliance faction. Because of HIGH King, the way Tyrande chose him as High King... Also how Jaina calls Varian "my King" during wotlk. And finally it was just a Blue Warchief.
And Legion/BFA directly confirm that the position is indeed hereditary.

[roahn the warlock]

Except....no. The Alliance government is a monarchy. Tyrande called Varian her King. Is she suddenly going to go back on that mentality just because his son took over?

Except this is how Alliances work. She is the leader of an independent nation. The Alliance doesn't function like the Horde. Tyrande can do what she wants with her own forces. She can also leave the Alliance whenever she wants. The Alliance is basically NATO.

[Every Pwny]

Not to mention that she doesn't say anything outrageous. "My hunger for vengeance will not be sated so long as Sylvanas Windrunner remains free" - who would actually disagree with this? The main villain behind the current war is running free, together with her top lackey, and scheming something far worse than she already did. Finding and killing her should be one of the top priorities for both Horde and the Alliance... but obviously Anduin cannot say that. He'd probably try to negotiate with her or something, instead of blasting her with Light.

Anduin tried to arrest Sylvanas after Teldrassil instead of just killing her. It's probably going to be one of those things where he ends up having more sympathy for Sylvanas than Tyrande.

[Soon-TM]

Christie Golden and her fanboys?

Tbh Christie "non toxic masculinity" Golden may be quite cringey, but in the end she has to follow whatever BS directives Afrasiabi is jerking off to.

[roahn the warlock]

I always thought that High King was the King of all alliance faction. Because of HIGH King, the way Tyrande chose him as High King... Also how Jaina calls Varian "my King" during wotlk. And finally it was just a Blue Warchief.
And Legion/BFA directly confirm that the position is indeed hereditary.

It's not, it's a position used in times of war to have one person in charge of all military decisions. Since bickering over plans of action lead to inaction. It's a momentary suspension of powers by the other Allied nations. Like Eisenhower being in charge of British and Canadian forces in WW2

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Tbh Christie "non toxic masculinity" Golden may be quite cringey, but in the end she has to follow whatever BS directives Afrasiabi is jerking off to.

Your posts in this thread have been all kinds of cringe my dude.

[Mehrunes]

They are only in Stormwind because Tyrande listen to Anduin and sent the army to Silithus.

Technically it's Anduin who listened to Tyrande. It was her idea. And she prepared for it even before the meeting.

She has disobeyed orders from her king TWICE NOW so that she can continue with her bloody rampage on Kalimdor. In a monarchy, that's considered high treason.

The High King has only military authority over forces given to him. If Tyrande did not give her forces to him and instead took them to Darkshore, that's her choice and Anduin can do fuck all about it.

Tbh Christie "non toxic masculinity" Golden may be quite cringey, but in the end she has to follow whatever BS directives Afrasiabi is jerking off to.

Danuser is the lead narrative designer of BfA. Not Afrasiabi.

[nonameelf]

It's not, it's a position used in times of war to have one person in charge of all military decisions. Since bickering over plans of action lead to inaction. It's a momentary suspension of powers by the other Allied nations. Like Eisenhower being in charge of British and Canadian forces in WW2

Yeah, that sure worked out well. What with the draenei having to invade Argus alone and the night elves having to fend off the Horde alone. Sure is good we had High King Dipshit to make the military decisions.