Sylvanas was innocent and you sided with a wannabe white knight.

[Protean]

"Who cares if you tried to wipe out an entire race, you did it for a good reason. It's not like you were just killing them all for fun!"

That's some pretty flimsy ground, there.

Sargeras has as much right to wipe out worlds as our own farmers do burning down their own fields or killing their cattle to avoid disease.

[Benjen666]

Neither being an idealist nor wanting a perfect world are crimes in my world, so... OK, I guess?

It tells a lot about you, though, if they are crimes in yours.

Nice try, says more about you that the above is all you can add to the conversation

[Aliven]

Sargeras has as much right to wipe out worlds as our own farmers do burning down their own fields or killing their cattle to avoid disease.

Well no. He was the defender of said cattle while farmers and architects were his brothers and sister.

Better analogy would be:
Sargeras, the Wolf Hunter - OMG there is that disease who is spreading and may or may not infect our cattle and fields, we need to destroy them NOW!
Brothers and sis - Hol up, we dont even know if they contacted that disease
Sargeras, the Wolf Hunter - KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIL!
Brothers and sis - Dude, be reasonable, lets find out together about it and try to save as many as possible k?
*Shoots fired*
Sargeras, the Wolf Hunter - Why you made me kill you all, if only you get my way you would life... Hol up, one cattle run away...

[Syegfryed]

What about next expansion? I have no idea how you are capable of defining an end to a thing that obviously has not ended.

its like saying tomorrow the earth could be flat.

She didn't, end, proved

if she even will attempt to do in the future, is totally another subject, and im gonna say that is unlikely they retcon her character for it.

[Devilyaki]

They wanted to stop the pointless fighting and focus on the real problems facing the world. Sylvanas seemed to just want to kill everything and didn't care who it effected since in death they become her slaves anyways. Since she pretty much said so that the horde was nothing and everyone else is nothing to her how is she innocent?

[Ophenia]

Sylvanas is the hero, she saw in Saurfang the potential to wipe out all threats from the universe, so she decided to send him directly to the Shadowlands where he'll be able to cleave down the God of Death or whoever is in charge down there, instead of going full kamehameha mode on both armies with her superpowers (which she should have done if she really wanted to "maximize the death count").

[Minikin]

The heroes are people like you, who chose saurfang. I'm glad she let you rot.

i guess getting blasted nearly all expansion long wasnt enough for guys like you. maybe you need more cgi cinematics and quests to realize you lost XD.

[Aliven]

Like taking Lordaeron?

Like failing to protect Quel'Thanas, like failing to kill Arthas because she gloated, like not killing Arthas, like being triggered by dying elf, like being triggered by word Hope, like failing to lead the Horde, like failing to protect forsaken, like failing for Nathrezim schemes, like failing to hold Undercity, TWICE, like failing to win a war, like failing to make any sane and strategicall decision, like failing to carry on a great plan, like failing to get Eyir into her service, like failing to protect Val'kyrs.

She is just one giant failure.

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i guess getting blasted nearly all expansion long wasnt enough for guys like you. maybe you need more cgi cinematics and quests to realize you lost XD.

They are like illidan, they cant cope with loss so in their minds they win.

Also goes batshit insane in the meantime.

[Minikin]

Like failing to protect Quel'Thanas, like failing to kill Arthas because she gloated, like not killing Arthas, like being triggered by dying elf, like being triggered by word Hope, like failing to lead the Horde, like failing to protect forsaken, like failing for Nathrezim schemes, like failing to hold Undercity, TWICE, like failing to win a war, like failing to make any sane and strategicall decision, like failing to carry on a great plan, like failing to get Eyir into her service, like failing to protect Val'kyrs.

She is just one giant failure.

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They are like illidan, they cant cope with loss so in their minds they win.

Also goes batshit insane in the meantime.

right?!?! woman openly said she gives no shit for the horde but hey "You ArE allL tRAitoRz!" all the way until sylvanas dunks their sorry little ass into that maw thing shes been feeding this entire time.

[Aliven]

right?!?! woman openly said she gives no shit for the horde but hey "You ArE allL tRAitoRz!" all the way until sylvanas dunks their sorry little ass into that maw thing shes been feeding this entire time.

Like psychos on pandora... They propably thank her for being the sacrifice.

[Life-Binder]

Like failing to protect Quel'Thanas, like failing to kill Arthas because she gloated, like not killing Arthas, like being triggered by dying elf, like being triggered by word Hope, like failing to lead the Horde, like failing to protect forsaken, like failing for Nathrezim schemes, like failing to hold Undercity, TWICE, like failing to win a war, like failing to make any sane and strategicall decision, like failing to carry on a great plan, like failing to get Eyir into her service, like failing to protect Val'kyrs.

She is just one giant failure.

and yet she is still around and kicking all these years later (unlike some characters), has already fed enough souls to the death thingie as per the actual plan (and will get more from the NZoth raid) and got cool new death powers + superman flight


also like half of those things you listed she either didnt even plan to do or you just outright made them up

[Minikin]

Like psychos on pandora... They propably thank her for being the sacrifice.

one need only look at sylvanas fan art to realize what kind of ppl support this worship of her XD.

[Aliven]

and yet she is still around and kicking all these years later (unlike some characters), has already fed enough souls to the death thingie as per the actual plan (and will get more from the NZoth raid) and got cool new death powers + superman flight

Well if you want to make point thet she survived while being unimportant, side character up until legion then sure, thats achivement...
She also screw herself over because, if she just played along, she could give more soul thingies. So yeah, another oopsie.

[Life-Binder]

she will get jsut as much or more from Nzoth grinder, while also having him get dealt with so he cant threaten her Death boss/plan

thats achivement

it is, survival is #1

[InTheEnd]

Supporting Sylvanas places you on the wrong side of history. That is a fact.

[OokOok]

8.3 demonstrates yet again that the traitors were nothing more than the idealist 'we want a perfect world' white knights and if you sided with saurfang you really should re roll to the alliance... we do not want you anymore.

So, you're defending sylvannas with the notion of "They were just idealist so what they did was ok" you know who also had this mind set and belief system? the nazis

[Syegfryed]

It's not totally another subject. It's all the same. They don't have to retcon her, they just have to show the side of her that is not in cinematics so that you people can call it a retcon.

you mean show something that don't exist?

again crystal clean, she didn't for her people or the horde, she give 2 shits about, its explained the entire expansion and made factual canon in the 2 last cinematics

the denial phase is over.

[Lochton]

8.3 demonstrates yet again that the traitors were nothing more than the idealist 'we want a perfect world' white knights and if you sided with saurfang you really should re roll to the alliance... we do not want you anymore.

But.. This is Sylvanas, she was never innocent after her first death. Already in Vanilla, she works on the plague.

[Keristrasza]

The heroes are people like you, who chose saurfang. I'm glad she let you rot.

Except the "Loyalist" were also in Nazjatar, I do love the mental gymnastics you are attempting to protect your waifu though.

[Steelcryo]

It's concerning how attached people have got to a fictional character...

Also on the innocent thing, you can question what she said and her motives all you want, but burning down a tree full of innocent civilians is far from innocent. Everything else could be debated, can't really debate innocence in that one though. Especially when the original plan was to hold them hostage with a siege, it was her and only her choice and order that caused them to be killed.