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    Lightbulb Mogu Allied Race Possibility?

    With the last Hearthstone expac " Saviors of Uldum", a new combo was added : This combo work by using a card named “Mogu Cultist” (see pic here : https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Mogu_Cultist ), to summon the " Highkeeper Ra". (see pic ; https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Highkeeper_Ra )

    You can notice the mogu cultist is a female mogu, and you can also see many of them on the Ra-den card art. So i know its Hearthstone and might have nothing to do with WoW lore, but we constantly see more and more chars from HS being added to WoW like with the complete league of explorers being in the game now.

    So what if this was maybe an explanation for female mogu and maybe a possible allied race? In this thread i will say the lore reasons how can it be possible and how it can come to be an allied race.

    Lore :

    Long ago, Highkeeper Ra was watching over what is now known as Pandaria with the mogu being constructs, not yet affected by the curse of flesh and protecting the Vale of Eternal Blossoms and the heart of Y’shaarj from the mantid.

    During that time male mogu were mostly warriors which watched over the bordures of the Vale, while the female were mostly cultist of Ra-den their “god”.

    But after Ra laerned the downfall of the pantheon, he fell into depression and hidded in a place called the thundering mountain. The mogu continued the protect the Vale and worship him. Then after the betrayal of Loken in Ulduar, the old god Yogg-Saron was able to corrupt the forge of will with his curse of flesh, which slowly turned the mogu and all other constructs into fleshy being.

    Slowly the mogu started to feel emotions such as fear, doubt etc and having no leader anymore since Ra was absent they just made clans and turned at each others for the dominaiton over the Vale, only one thing still held them united ; fight the mantid during their periodic invasions.

    At this moment the worshippers of Ra however still continued to honour the god knowing it existed continued to see him and settled near the thudering mountain to be in peace since most mogu didnt venture here.

    Time passed, though, and slowly the mogu female, that knew Ra, died and since the position of the keeper was kept secret and known only bu few cultists, it slowly became lost in time… But the mogu worshippers still remember the teaching of the keeper and just thoughthe was gone only to come back later and use them for a grand plan, so they ocntinued to worship him honour him and use his secrets to become a powerfull clan one of the most pwoerfull during the Age of a Hundred Kings.

    The clan was prosperous and many mogu and female in it became skilled warriors and sorcerers that made others clans tremble and didnt dared vneutre near the mountain.

    Untill one day, a mogu came to the mountain, and enttered it. The clan didnt stopped him as he did no harm to them he was just travelling. They would never imagine this mogu will become their new “god”.

    When Lei Shen get out of the mountain caves, he was no onger a simple mogu, he was the Thunder King, and the first thing he did was to challenge Monara, the actual queen of the clan of the worshippers to a duel.

    Lei Shen murdered her easly and by this act he wanted to break the clan and show that only one mogu will rule all others now, and he gave a choice to the clan of the worshippers of Ra which was to serve him as a god or be exiled. Lei shen also said that he found Ra in the mountain and that he had killed him (that was a lie to break them further), most of the clan didnt believed such a thing but they feinted accepting lei shen do nto be destroyed and try to find a way to know the truth.

    Lei Shen didnt want to destroy the clan however, as he knew thier secrets will help him and he pout the husband of Monara in charge.

    The worshippers still continue their rituals to honours Ra-den for many years without Lei Shen knew, but one of his followers Shan Bu learned of this and instantly said to the Thunder King. Lei Shen took the clan leader with him and ordered him to exile the fmale of his clan without delay. The leader refused and Lei Shen then ordered that all the female and the clan leader was put in a crypt and then turned into stone for eternity (in case the Thunder King would need them one day).

    The clan then was broken for the last time and it was no more the male mogu ony joined others clans and were totally loyal and submitted to the thunder king. Lei Shen fearing that a new cult would rise, ordered the murder of all the female mogu in his empire to avoid them to have any power like Monara had, or worst try to find Ra once they would had such power. (you can see infos about her here : https://wow.gamepedia.com/Monara )

    12.000y later, we players find a mogu crypt key in island expeditions and give it to the lorswalker Cho who tell us there is many crypts like this beneth the earth.

    Ra, being free from Lei Shen at last after ToT raid, try to find a reasons to live and learn that the pantheon is alive and that the titan-world of azeoth is in danger because of the old gods, the same he fought so long ago, he remember then that he have a mission, a goal that the titans now alive again gave him : Protect the final titan!

    Ra know he must find this old cult of mogu in the crypt and we players will help find them to remake that clan !

    Mogu Allied race features :

    I wont go into racials since i didnt thought much about this yet but i will say abotu factions, class and even race mount mogu can have

    Factions :
    Being closer to the zandalari (they were allied before, the mogu would either be neutral or horde)

    Classes :
    Hunter, Mage, Priest, Rogue, Shaman, Warrior (Maybe Warlock and why not Necromancer if blizz add this dam class one day)

    Racial mount ;
    Ro’shak, the Molten Flare (pic here : https://gamepedia.cursecdn.com/wowpe...1588a0597c9c6f )

    What mogu could add to the game/faction as an allied race? :

    It would be fair enought for the horde to have at last an azeoth titan related race since they have none unlike aliance which have gnomes, dwarves and humans.

    They could bring lot of techologies and secrets to the faciton they go in like flesh shapng and other good stuff and also the prestige of their empire. (Thats lot better than Vulperas already…)

    Here tell me what you think guys, have a nice day

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    So! According to next patch it seems i am mostly right on a lot of points i made out on my first post

    and there is some pics beware spoilers :

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...719_232300.jpg

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...719_232436.jpg

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...719_232408.jpg

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    They can use the new worgen rig. Wasn't there an old leak that said Mogu allied race somewhere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zalendra View Post
    So! According to next patch it seems i am mostly right on a lot of points i made out on my first post

    and there is some pics beware spoilers :

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...719_232300.jpg

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...719_232436.jpg

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...719_232408.jpg
    Cool photos, but doubt it's an allied race. From the voice files it sounds more like they're just having it as a rep faction that we're helping for the patch. They just wouldn't have enough reason to care about or join the faction "war"
    "Why of course the people don't want war…. But, after all… it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrbleedinggums View Post
    Cool photos, but doubt it's an allied race. From the voice files it sounds more like they're just having it as a rep faction that we're helping for the patch. They just wouldn't have enough reason to care about or join the faction "war"
    Some Voicelines suggest they are about to redeem the Mogus from what they have done to Pandaria and such, this would be probably 8.3. Meanwhile Ra-den, their master is a boss in Ny'alotha, which would affect them pretty much, as I would guess that this would deserve at least an epilog for the Rajani.

    Why should they go out of the Vale? Well, after fighting the Mantis and enemy clans, they could decide to work along the Horde to save the world in general from the threats the old gods propose, they could be interested in learning from other titanic facilities or saving them, as there are plenty still to explore (Uldazi and Uldorus for example).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jellykiss View Post
    They can use the new worgen rig. Wasn't there an old leak that said Mogu allied race somewhere?

    Isnt there an old leak saying any and all races can be allied somewhere?

    Although, Mogu race is something i'd gladly welcome.

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    The Rajani seem to be a neutral reputation, so I can't exactly see them aligning with either faction. That being said, god damn if I wouldn't want to play as a mogu. They have so much potential as a playable race.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jellykiss View Post
    They can use the new worgen rig. Wasn't there an old leak that said Mogu allied race somewhere?
    ...Don't they already use the draenei rig though?


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    My god after the fat Kul Tirans I really don't want another bulky race for the Alliance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    My god after the fat Kul Tirans I really don't want another bulky race for the Alliance.
    No worries. Alliance will get something incredibly stupid like Wasteland Humans from Uldum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    My god after the fat Kul Tirans I really don't want another bulky race for the Alliance.
    Why not add them to Horde?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    No worries. Alliance will get something incredibly stupid like Wasteland Humans from Uldum
    At least it is not wasteland foxes.
    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...lopment-thread
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    If you are suggesting to take my Night Elfs Shadowmeld away, then please find some pike to run yourself through, tyvm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matrix123mko View Post
    Why not add them to Horde?
    They can have them if Alliance gets two absolutely new models and "special" allied races to make up for a) Vulpera and b) Mogu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    No worries. Alliance will get something incredibly stupid like Wasteland Humans from Uldum
    It's Blizzard, I wouldn't be surprised.
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    A year ago, a member of the wow team say this in an interview :

    "What will be the sword of Sargeras impact on the mogu.. the dark iron dwarves or other allied race"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFEN...youtu.be&t=328

    It was probably a mistake and he wanted to say "maghar" but who knows..

    I'm hyped to see friendly mogu and hope they could become a horde allied race

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    They can have them if Alliance gets two absolutely new models and "special" allied races to make up for a) Vulpera and b) Mogu.
    Kul Tirans have brand new skeleton. Then, I would add high elves with a bit tweaked animations so they are not blood elf reskin.
    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...lopment-thread
    Quote Originally Posted by Nevcairiel View Post
    If you are suggesting to take my Night Elfs Shadowmeld away, then please find some pike to run yourself through, tyvm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrbleedinggums View Post
    Cool photos, but doubt it's an allied race. From the voice files it sounds more like they're just having it as a rep faction that we're helping for the patch. They just wouldn't have enough reason to care about or join the faction "war"
    Do you played the game recently? Because there is "faction war" anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skirdus View Post
    ...Don't they already use the draenei rig though?
    But they have paws not hooves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matrix123mko View Post
    Kul Tirans have brand new skeleton. Then, I would add high elves with a bit tweaked animations so they are not blood elf reskin.
    And so do basically Nightborne. So the Horde has still one race more with an entirely new model. Alliance needs something for Vulpera now and if Mogu goes to Horde yet another "new" model instead of a lazy reskin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zalendra View Post
    So! According to next patch it seems i am mostly right on a lot of points i made out on my first post

    and there is some pics beware spoilers :

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...719_232300.jpg

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...719_232436.jpg

    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...719_232408.jpg
    Mogu for the Alliance and Ogres for the Horde?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    And so do basically Nightborne. So the Horde has still one race more with an entirely new model. Alliance needs something for Vulpera now and if Mogu goes to Horde yet another "new" model instead of a lazy reskin.
    Ogres should be the Horde counterpart
    S.H.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nysisyn View Post
    A year ago, a member of the wow team say this in an interview :

    "What will be the sword of Sargeras impact on the mogu.. the dark iron dwarves or other allied race"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFEN...youtu.be&t=328

    It was probably a mistake and he wanted to say "maghar" but who knows..

    I'm hyped to see friendly mogu and hope they could become a horde allied race
    That was it, it wasn't a leak, well a leak they themselves leaked
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    With the new friendly Mogu faction, you can bet your ass on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skirdus View Post
    The Rajani seem to be a neutral reputation, so I can't exactly see them aligning with either faction.
    The Highmountain Tauren and the Nightborne, as well as the Lightforged Draenei (arguably, in the form of the Army of the Light) and Mechagnomes (arguably, in the form of the Rustbolt Resistance) also were neutral reputations before aligning themselves with a main faction.

    Even the Zandalari were a neutral reputation before Cataclysm.
    Last edited by iscalio; 2019-10-12 at 06:52 PM.

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