1. #1781
    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    Except no one thinks she is a plant as in 'Russia sent her here to fuck shit up'.

    Tulsi had no real national clout or support prior to the election season for her to even consider running. One would say he decision to run was down right irrational. But why did she decide to run? Because someone has been feeding her ego. Feeding her a healthy does of 'Delusion. OF Grandeur' kool-aid. Best way to troll your opponent is sow seeds of dissent amongst too stupid to realize they are being manipulated.

    95% chance she is just an idiot and not an idiot who was manipulated by a Russian hype man - not out of the realm of possibilities though.
    Regardless, it does seem like an exceptionally bad time for Clinton to draw media attention onto herself when it should have stayed on Mulvaney admitting flat out to the quid pro quo and Republicans openly warming to impeachment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashina View Post
    Tulsi Gabbard decided that Trump can't be the only insane politician on Twitter today. This is not a parody account.
    I love how Fox News and the Glenn Greenwalds on the left are calling the woman who murdered Vince Foster, Seth Rich, and Ben Ghazi a nutjob conspiracy theorist. THE FUCKING BALLS. Meanwhile at every fucking Trump rally there's hundreds of people wearing Qanon gear. Fox News peddles conspiracies 24/7 from all their hosts. UFOs?!? If you havent watched Fox News in a few years they love pushing UFOs these days for non political conspiracy fix. Lizard people? Chemtrails? Soros? (((Global Elite)))? Need I go on?

    Maybe, just MAYBE, the lesson from 2016 was that conspiracy theories are a great way to get regular Americans to "your side" and instead of reflecting on polici... zzz.... zzz... z...

    ... Oh sorry fell asleep, maybe this Russian conspiracy has galvanized a large part of the country like Hillary's kill list and pay for play politics and is now being weaponized by the left against the right in a masterful way. Either that or the elites are pushing out conspiracies to distract Americans from realizing both parties are working for the same small set of people who are interested in maintaining their vast wealth and elite status at all costs.

    The left is getting better at conspiracies and the right are getting worried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashina View Post
    Tulsi Gabbard decided that Trump can't be the only insane politician on Twitter today. This is not a parody account.

    Lol! Gutsy, attacking the Queen of the Democratic party. She may as well leave the Democrat party now and run as a independent.
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    I'm sure Putin and Trump supporters would love for Tulsi to run independent as a spoiler, but I don't think it would work out like Stein did in 2016. Tulsi is more likely to pull votes from republicans that are disgusted with Trump and don't want to vote for a democrat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashina View Post
    Unironically, YAS KWEEN, SLAY!

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    I wonder if people will ever grow out of their "everyone I don't like is a [Insert Russian/Iranian/Chinese/whatever country suits your narrative] shill" phase, or if they will just remain boring and stupid forever....

    Tulsi's got some cojones, but it's hard to imagine what kind of future she's going to have in politics. She's radioactive to most Democrats outside her circle, Independents have a limited ceiling, and Republicans that "would totally vote for her" are more-or-less just paying her lip service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blur4stuff View Post
    I'm sure Putin and Trump supporters would love for Tulsi to run independent as a spoiler, but I don't think it would work out like Stein did in 2016. Tulsi is more likely to pull votes from republicans that are disgusted with Trump and don't want to vote for a democrat.
    Speaking of, a smart libertarian would double down on right-wing stances to spoil Trump's votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethul Ur No View Post
    I wonder if people will ever grow out of their "everyone I don't like is a [Insert Russian/Iranian/Chinese/whatever country suits your narrative] shill" phase, or if they will just remain boring and stupid forever....

    Tulsi's got some cojones, but it's hard to imagine what kind of future she's going to have in politics. She's radioactive to most Democrats outside her circle, Independents have a limited ceiling, and Republicans that "would totally vote for her" are more-or-less just paying her lip service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post
    Right!
    Imagine not being stuck with n a 20th century worldview
    Bro...Tinfoil Hattery is at least 23rd century stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    I admit it's less than I thought it were. I don't think I'm being odd because I distrust politicians taking money from corporations. What is she offering that they would like? What do they want from her?

    But anyway, anything is better than Trump.
    Maybe the people who support her realise that her ideas are long-term good for them?
    Most of the rich and that hated FDR, the new deal, and social security when it happened. They detested "That man in the White House" whom they saw as a traitor. (He was of their class after all. From among the TOP of their class).
    In the end however most of them realised that his policies helped them far more than the policies of his predesesors. As he enriched the middle classes and lower classes. Strenghtening their purchasing power.
    I've got a feeling that Trickle Down came to be because the people who saw the changes FDR made happen passed away/went into retirement. So everyone (with big money and big corporations) who factually knew what hogwash it was was dead/retired.

    You need to get the fuck over yourself and make a new New Deal Coalition. Just one without southern racists this time.
    A thing Warren seems to be aiming to do. A thing Bernie doesn't seem know the first thing of. He thinks yelling about it will get it done. It won't. Cynisism and shrewed politics will get it done. Cynisism that includes calm fireside chats.
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  10. #1790
    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Unironically, YAS KWEEN, SLAY!

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    Ahahaha, there is also Jill Stein response:
    If HRC really believes all independent campaigns are Russian plots, why isn't she calling for #RankedChoiceVoting to make it impossible for evil foreigners to "split the vote"? Until she does, all this Russia hysteria just looks like cynical McCarthyist left-punching.

  11. #1791
    Good old Tulsi. Ditching a campaign event to speak to Tucker Carlson about Hillary Clinton from a parking lot.



    No wonder Trumpkins like her. She's equally insane and equally compromised. I wonder how Assad is doing, can anyone ask Tulsi?
    She's going to be the Jill Stein of 2020.

    Odds are she's even going to lose her House seat to Kai Kahele, who is outpacing her in the most recent polls.
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  12. #1792
    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    This does seem quite odd. It seems to imply that she has Fox News contacts and leans more "crazy right" than having anything to do with the Democratic Party.
    They are the ones willing to give her airtime and obviously censor her less then "alternatives".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochana View Post
    This does seem quite odd. It seems to imply that she has Fox News contacts and leans more "crazy right" than having anything to do with the Democratic Party.
    She ended the interview with Tucker by pleading for his viewers to support her.

    She's supported and endorsed by Bannon, David Duke and the Russian state media. There's not much more to say here. 4chan alt-right hives call her "Mommy".

    And then there was this: Neo-Nazis boast ‘We got Tulsi in the debates’

    Or here's the Russian Embassy in South-Africa defending Tulsi Gabbard. Not a good look.
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  14. #1794
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    They are the ones willing to give her airtime and obviously censor her less then "alternatives".
    She has gone on the alternatives, and she is mainly retarded. That is why the only morons trying to push here, are Russian bots, or right wingers. So, yeah, going to pass on her.

  15. #1795
    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    She has gone on the alternatives, and she is mainly retarded. That is why the only morons trying to push here, are Russian bots, or right wingers. So, yeah, going to pass on her.
    Given that you constantly and unquestionably shill for current and former Democrat leadership, that isn't surprising.

    For others she does provide anti-imperialist/anti-war points that are otherwise not available even with Bernie.

  16. #1796
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Given that you constantly and unquestionably shill for current and former Democrat leadership, that isn't surprising.

    For others she does provide anti-imperialist/anti-war points that are otherwise not available even with Bernie.
    I shill for them? Guess that makes me smart. I don't feel the need to be paid to post outright lies for Trump, like you apparently are. And Any of the Democrats for the last 40 or 50 years are better than ANY Republican. For civil rights, for the economy, for spending, for the planet, and just overall progress. Something you cannot say with a straight face for any Republican in at least the last 50-75 years.

  17. #1797
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Given that you constantly and unquestionably shill for current and former Democrat leadership, that isn't surprising.

    For others she does provide anti-imperialist/anti-war points that are otherwise not available even with Bernie.
    When someone so low on the polls believes it's only them and someone not running there's definitely at least one screw loose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethul Ur No View Post
    I wonder if people will ever grow out of their "everyone I don't like is a [Insert Russian/Iranian/Chinese/whatever country suits your narrative] shill" phase, or if they will just remain boring and stupid forever....

    Tulsi's got some cojones, but it's hard to imagine what kind of future she's going to have in politics. She's radioactive to most Democrats outside her circle, Independents have a limited ceiling, and Republicans that "would totally vote for her" are more-or-less just paying her lip service.
    i don't think it's going to go away, the right had a great go of it in the red scare, i guess it's the lefts turn now. /shrug
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saucexorzski View Post
    i don't think it's going to go away, the right had a great go of it in the red scare, i guess it's the lefts turn now. /shrug
    Gabbard is called a Russian shill because she parrots their revanchist gibberish on a daily basis. It's not rocket science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    Gabbard is called a Russian shill because she parrots their revanchist gibberish on a daily basis. It's not rocket science.
    The silliest damn thing about all this, including Gabbard's crazypants response, is that Clinton A> didn't name her, and B> just said she was being an unwitting dupe, not that she was willfully working for Russia.

    And Gabbard's not exactly selling that she's not by responding this way. She's responding like Trump would. And the Mueller Report already detailed how his campaign was suborned that way.


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