At one point, is this possible to discuss the POTUS mental age seriously ?

[Kaleredar]

I don't approve responding to VIOLENT protesters with violence, but this has nothing to do with the pathology of Rochana's comment.
That's true authoritarian fascistic mentality, the kind who caused millions of deaths and wars.

Like by encouraging your followers to respond to criticism with violence, saying that the government will both cover and thank them for it?

[Hammerfest]

Is this another video I'm not obligated to watch?

Absolutely!

[ohtlmtlm]

Not among Latinos. https://www.newsweek.com/what-donald...upport-1300180

Indeed, a poll from NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist conducted January 8 through January 10 did find Trump's approval among Latino respondents was 50 percent. Meanwhile, 46 percent of Latino respondents disapproved of the president's job performance.

This was back in Jan. of this year. Not sure what it is now. This time period, his approval rating among white men had dropped 6% points.

Anyway, no one who has posted so far understands what I meant.

you could try explaining it a different way instead of repeating "no one understands me" you sound like an emotional teenager whining about his parents not understanding him. It's been like 2 or 3 pages since you made the "point" you're referring to... I just read 3 pages catching up and I don't remember what you're referring to.

[Malaky]

Like by encouraging your followers to respond to criticism with violence, saying that the government will both cover and thank them for it?

If by criticism you mean throwing stuff at people, that's a violent act, not criticism.

[Orbitus]

If by criticism you mean throwing stuff at people, that's a violent act, not criticism.

Considering that is what Republican supporters are doing, I don't know why you are pointing at Democrat supporters. Look at how many terrorist attacks have been perpetuated in support of Trump. Literally dozens of people are dead because of Trump's rhetoric.

[Mythic-RaidLead]

That he speaks like a fucking 4 year old? Seriously, he basically sounds like he is crushing on another dictator that is the ally to Putin as well. He is a moron, and so is his followers.

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Again, no one cares what the conspiracy retard thinks. Both Nancy Pelosi and Elizabeth Warren don't sound like the are mentally retarded like Trump and Mark Dice.

You don't know what you are talking about. He does not aspire to be a dictator. Mark Dice is very credible, maybe actually fucking watch the video.

[Anevers]

Mark Dice is very credible, maybe actually fucking watch the video.

No...He's not, stop saying silly things.

Mark Dice (born 1977) is an ultraconservative Christian American conspiracy theorist, social critic, activist, and author. He professes conspiratorial beliefs about the New World Order (NWO) and the Illuminati and their evil plans to destroy Christianity and humanity, and bring about a one world communist government ruled by the Satanic left-wing Antichrist who will make everyone wear Google Glasses.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Mark_Dice

[Orbitus]

You don't know what you are talking about. He does not aspire to be a dictator. Mark Dice is very credible, maybe actually fucking watch the video.

Mark Dice is a fucking retard that thinks the Illuminati is fucking real. And Trump ABSOLUTELY wants to be a fucking dictator. That is why his only friends are murderous dictators. And he thinks he is above the law, saying he can't be investigated, indicted or arrested. That and he wants to bypass Congress because the people of this country don't want the bullshit he wants. AKA A FUCKING DICTATOR.

[Kaleredar]

If by criticism you mean throwing stuff at people, that's a violent act, not criticism.

Trump referred not only to "throwing tomatoes" but people protesting his rallies in general.

[Zython]

Well, the problem is that making determinations like that would require psychiatric and mental evaluation, which Trump would never agree to.

Fortunately, "evil" isn't a medical condition, so we can just go with that.

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I think we should be looking at Dems like Nancy Pelosi and Elizabeth Warren and their age and mental health. Case in point? "Pronouns Day." Mark Dice weighs in...

How dare someone...use pronouns?

[PosPosPos]

I can certainly see how this is a fun narrative to believe, you but you do realize that there wasn't much of a split in the 2016 based on education or income, right? Poor voters favored Clinton, but the $50K-$100K, $100K-$250K, and $250K+ groups were all basically dead even (slight advantages for Trump). The notion of some guy with an MBA and a $300K/year corporate finance position voted Trump because he's angry about how smart Democrats are is absurd on its face.

If we take your word on your background and look at the alt-right nonsense you post each day it's not hard to imagine why such a notion even exists.

[ohtlmtlm]

If we take your word on your background and look at the alt-right nonsense you post each day it's not hard to imagine why such a notion even exists.

that person earning a big salary probably hates women and constantly wonders why they're single despite earning the "big bucks". Trump calling women dogs all the time probably helps with that.

[Skulltaker]

Still waiting for that citation...

Sure, ignore everything else and keep your little strawman alive. If you cannot distinguish between force and violence, that is 100% and entirely a 'you' problem. I'm not going to compensate for your lack of education.

Anyway, no one who has posted so far understands what I meant.

Maybe because, as usual, you didn't say anything meaningful?

[Malaky]

Sure, ignore everything else and keep your little strawman alive. If you cannot distinguish between force and violence, that is 100% and entirely a 'you' problem. I'm not going to compensate for your lack of education.

I see lots of words, but not a single case in which "use force instead of dialogue" didn't devolve in violence.

Someone is definitely clinging to straws here, but I'm not sure it's me...

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Trump referred not only to "throwing tomatoes" but people protesting his rallies in general.

Gonna press (X) doubt on that one. I sincerely doubt Trump went and said "and if people prostest me peacefully, attack them violently!"
That seems a repertoire from the left nowadays, not Trump.

[Twdft]

Anyway, no one who has posted so far understands what I meant.

Then you should probably try again and express your opinion more clearly. Use one syllable words if you have to, English isn't everyones native language.

[Kaleredar]

Gonna press (X) doubt on that one. I sincerely doubt Trump went and said "and if people prostest me peacefully, attack them violently!"
That seems a repertoire from the left nowadays, not Trump.

"from the left."

What about that guy that hit protesters with his car and killed someone?

But hey, seeing as you can only survive in the nebulous world of hypothetical and "well what he meant to say-s," I'mma do you a solid and bust that right down, mkay?


Here are the ones I came across in a quick google search:

The man that was — I don’t know, you say “roughed up” — he was so obnoxious and so loud, he was screaming — I had 10,000 people in the room yesterday, 10,000 people, and this guy started screaming by himself. And I don’t know, “rough up” — he should have been, maybe he should have been roughed up. Because it was absolutely disgusting what he was doing.

So now raising one's voice is considered "worthy of violence" according to Trump.

Actually, lemme do you one further; you're saying that's okay.

Here's another one:

Oh, I love the old days, you know? You know what I hate? There's a guy, totally disruptive, throwing punches, we're not allowed to punch back anymore. I love the old days. You know what they used to do to guys like that when they were in a place like this? They'd be carried out on a stretcher, folks," Trump said to cheers. "You know, I love our police, and I really respect our police, and they're not getting enough. They're not. Honestly, I hate to see that. Here's a guy, throwing punches, nasty as hell, screaming at everything else when we're talking, and he's walking out, and we're not allowed -- you know, the guards are very gentle with him, he's walking out, like, big high fives, smiling, laughing -- I'd like to punch him in the face, I'll tell you.

Multiple security personnel said the protestor had not been acting violent in any way.

So you're also condoning misleading people while simultaneously calling for violence.

More:

Yeah get him out, try not to hurt him. If you do I’ll defend you in court, don’t worry about it.

This, said in regards to a protestor that I can find zero evidence of having acted violently.

And this was all from before he was even elected president. You want me to keep going?

With this preponderance of evidence, it leaves me with only two conclusions about you, bub. Either 1) You don't pay attention or 2) You're a fucking hypocrite.

[Malaky]

The man that was — I don’t know, you say “roughed up” — he was so obnoxious and so loud, he was screaming — I had 10,000 people in the room yesterday, 10,000 people, and this guy started screaming by himself. And I don’t know, “rough up” — he should have been, maybe he should have been roughed up. Because it was absolutely disgusting what he was doing.

Seems pretty hypothetical to me.
A call is a call, it does not involve hypotheticals. Saying "maybe disruptors should be roughed up, or maybe not" is not one.

I don't think this is in good taste, it's actually in bad taste and poorly worded, but to define this as a call for violence seems a stretch to me.

Oh, I love the old days, you know? You know what I hate? There's a guy, totally disruptive, throwing punches, we're not allowed to punch back anymore. I love the old days. You know what they used to do to guys like that when they were in a place like this? They'd be carried out on a stretcher, folks," Trump said to cheers. "You know, I love our police, and I really respect our police, and they're not getting enough. They're not. Honestly, I hate to see that. Here's a guy, throwing punches, nasty as hell, screaming at everything else when we're talking, and he's walking out, and we're not allowed -- you know, the guards are very gentle with him, he's walking out, like, big high fives, smiling, laughing -- I'd like to punch him in the face, I'll tell you.

He specifically says that this is directed at guys throwing punches, which is a physical violent action.
Not what I asked in the post before?

Yeah get him out, try not to hurt him. If you do I’ll defend you in court, don’t worry about it.

....okay, do you even know what a call for violence is?
He's specifically saying to try not to hurt him while escorting the protester out, but if the protester struggles and you end up hurting him during the escort you're gonna get his defense.

This is what he's saying here, and to call this a call for violence... huh?

[SirBeef]

You don't know what you are talking about. He does not aspire to be a dictator. Mark Dice is very credible, maybe actually fucking watch the video.

OK ban evading alt-account.

[Warning]

I think you are a smart person. But so far, no responses have been made which understands the point I was making.

Well if you'd read my initial comment you'll see the counter argument to that point. Sure I'll go along with the idea that those who voted Trump wanted something different, and that they got something different. But in what way is this version of "different" better? You haven't explained that. Why is it better that the president of the united states writes like a retard? How is it better than having a president who chooses their words carefully and speaks with eloquence? Cause to me its like comparing some piece of postmodern art constructed out of garbage to a Rembrandt when I compare the words of Donald Trump to those spoken by previous presidents like FDR, Eisenhower, Kennedy and others.

If it is just enough for you that he be different you may as well have voted for an eggplant. That would've been different too. Right now it seems like you wanted "not X" but you have no criteria other than that. What about intelligence? What about dignity? What about honor and loyalty and empathy? Your "not X" president lacks all of those, that is why we reject him.

[Azadina]

....okay, do you even know what a call for violence is?
He's specifically saying to try not to hurt him while escorting the protester out, but if the protester struggles and you end up hurting him during the escort you're gonna get his defense.

This is what he's saying here, and to call this a call for violence... huh?

So, let me see if I got this right:

If a Democrat president were to tell his/her followers "get the Trumpkins out of here, try not to shoot them. If you do, you'll have pardons waiting, don't worry about it"

That's cool in your books? You'd defend it as asking people not to be violent, correct?