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    Please stop with the "Hellfire" DK

    Look, Bolvar got engulfed by Alexstrasza's lifebringing flame breath, which doesn't have much to do with hell, does it? It's a "redeeming flame" more akin to holy or nature, if anything. Just because DK's are often considered damned souls, does not mean that their future has ANYTHING to do with "Hellfire." I understand this is mostly a colloquial term, but it is simply incorrect.
    Hellfire: https://www.wowhead.com/spell=87481/hellfire

    For a long time now, the Burning Legion, Sargeras and the Twisting Nether have been the WoW equivalent of demons, Satan and Hell. Demonology warlocks use Hellfire. It's a demon thing, it's fel magic.

    Please, stop with the Hellfire Death Knights.
    Last edited by Sagenod; 2019-10-22 at 09:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffin Johnson PI View Post
    Look, Bolvar got engulfed by Alexstrasza's lifebringing flame breath, which doesn't have much to do with hell, does it? It's a "redeeming flame" more akin to holy or nature, if anything. Just because DK's are often considered damned souls, does not mean that their future has ANYTHING to do with "Hellfire." I understand this is mostly a colloquial term, but it is infuriatingly wrong.

    Hellfire: https://www.wowhead.com/spell=87481/hellfire

    For a long time now, the Burning Legion, Sargeras and the Twisting Nether have been the WoW equivalent of demons, Satan and Hell. Demonology warlocks use Hellfire. It's a demon thing, it's fel magic.

    Please, stop with the Hellfire Death Knights.
    Dragonfire Death Knights ?

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    I actually would like a fire based dk. Could have some nice dark souls aesthetic, I want the spec to be called Cinder.

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    fire spec's already taken and Dragonfire isn't deathy enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffin Johnson PI View Post
    Look, Bolvar got engulfed by Alexstrasza's lifebringing flame breath, which doesn't have much to do with hell, does it? It's a "redeeming flame" more akin to holy or nature, if anything. Just because DK's are often considered damned souls, does not mean that their future has ANYTHING to do with "Hellfire." I understand this is mostly a colloquial term, but it is infuriatingly wrong.

    Hellfire: https://www.wowhead.com/spell=87481/hellfire

    For a long time now, the Burning Legion, Sargeras and the Twisting Nether have been the WoW equivalent of demons, Satan and Hell. Demonology warlocks use Hellfire. It's a demon thing, it's fel magic.

    Please, stop with the Hellfire Death Knights.
    People are fucking goofy, they wont stop =(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffin Johnson PI View Post
    Look, Bolvar got engulfed by Alexstrasza's lifebringing flame breath, which doesn't have much to do with hell, does it? It's a "redeeming flame" more akin to holy or nature, if anything. Just because DK's are often considered damned souls, does not mean that their future has ANYTHING to do with "Hellfire." I understand this is mostly a colloquial term, but it is infuriatingly wrong.

    Hellfire: https://www.wowhead.com/spell=87481/hellfire

    For a long time now, the Burning Legion, Sargeras and the Twisting Nether have been the WoW equivalent of demons, Satan and Hell. Demonology warlocks use Hellfire. It's a demon thing, it's fel magic.

    Please, stop with the Hellfire Death Knights.
    Scourge was created by Burning Legion and the Lich King was created by Kil´jaeden. DK is originally part of the scourge.

    Makes your whole argument invalid.

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    As cool as it would look visually it doesn’t make sense.

    Undead and fire don’t mix well.

    Hellfire knight is just a fel knight.

    So blizzard add a Hell Knight class! Now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    fire spec's already taken and Dragonfire isn't deathy enough.
    By what exactly? Fire Mage? Holy Priest, Holy Paladin, Restoration Druid, Restoration Shaman, Protection Paladin, Protection Warrior say hello. Don't let a single word limit your imagination ^^ And Dragonfire is one of the most deadly kinds of fire on Azeroth, mind you.

    OT: Hellfire DK. Not stopping. We want it.

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    I mean... DK's experienced death, that has a lot to do with hell. Who's to say where the fire came from but it's not impossible that it just could be an elemental thing, or something Bolvar experienced and taught. Doesn't have to be fel. Plus if it was fel, wouldn't the skill itself say it? You know, the one you linked.

    This is the first time I've heard of it, thanks for enlightening me because this spec sure as hell sounds way more appealing than tinkerers to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TigTone View Post
    As cool as it would look visually it doesn’t make sense.

    Undead and fire don’t mix well.

    Hellfire knight is just a fel knight.

    So blizzard add a Hell Knight class! Now!
    Plenty of games, mythologies and fantasy settings where undeads are fire related. Heck, just look at Diablo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venziir View Post
    Plenty of games, mythologies and fantasy settings where undeads are fire related. Heck, just look at Diablo.
    That’s great but WoW isn’t those games.

    Closest WoW has is those undead covered in fel fire in broken isles.

    So fire undead is a Demon fel knight thing.

    Not a Northrend frozen undead thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venziir View Post
    Plenty of games, mythologies and fantasy settings where undeads are fire related. Heck, just look at Diablo.
    Just look at the Headless Horseman during the current Hallow’s End. Green fel flame and all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffin Johnson PI View Post
    Please, stop with the Hellfire Death Knights.
    This is the first I've heard, or rather read, about it. So how do you expect me to stop something I haven't even begun doing?

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    Okay then: New class; Dragonknight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikkuu View Post
    Scourge was created by Burning Legion and the Lich King was created by Kil´jaeden. DK is originally part of the scourge.

    Makes your whole argument invalid.
    Not really, considering the distinction that has been made between Chaos and Death. Sure, the two were intermingled thanks to the Nathrezim, but it doesn't invalidate what I'm saying especially when you throw dragonfire back into the mix.

    It's not that I don't like the idea of a "flame knight" thematically, but I don't think the current state of Bolvar implies "Hellfire." He was a paragon of the Holy Light, got covered in purifying dragon fire. Doesn't make sense for the flames of chaos to be involved.
    Last edited by Sagenod; 2019-10-20 at 07:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jalham View Post
    Dragonfire Death Knights ?
    That actually sounded a bit cool xD

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    If anythin DK would be dragon-based spec.

    Quote Originally Posted by wrynil View Post
    Okay then: New class; Dragonknight!
    Yeah we can make it short and just call em DK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    fire spec's already taken and Dragonfire isn't deathy enough.
    taken by who?

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    I don't know, this could actually be amazing. Bolvar using the powers of the lich king + the fires engulfing him to create a new breed of death knights would be really interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TigTone View Post
    As cool as it would look visually it doesn’t make sense.

    Undead and fire don’t mix well.

    Hellfire knight is just a fel knight.

    So blizzard add a Hell Knight class! Now!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamuri View Post
    I mean... DK's experienced death, that has a lot to do with hell. Who's to say where the fire came from but it's not impossible that it just could be an elemental thing, or something Bolvar experienced and taught. Doesn't have to be fel. Plus if it was fel, wouldn't the skill itself say it? You know, the one you linked.

    This is the first time I've heard of it, thanks for enlightening me because this spec sure as hell sounds way more appealing than tinkerers to me.
    well Bolvar was killed by Blight, and burned by Dragon fire of life (red dragons). They just "cleansed" blight in his body, but the result... well

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