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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoowpunk View Post
    Reasons why i think you are wrong:

    1. Makes no sense in a design perspective
    2. Its said on wowhead you can purify all items WITHOUT RESTRICTIONS.
    Now tell me...
    How does it make sense to remove all the "bad" from the item and keep the bonuses...if you can purify without restrictions?

    You get the item...purify...

    This way you never get corruption whastoever.
    What you say, makes no sense
    https://www.wowhead.com/news=295802/...on-stat-ranges

    The purification is not unlimited it takes time
    You won't get it fast it will take grinding

    The bonuses have tiers so lfr t3 corrupted is better than mythic corrupted T1

    They are thinking of static sockets on them


    It's not finalized

    Please stop parroting people like asmongold and bellular

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    TF - Upgrade even if you have 0 skill

    Corrupted - upgrade if you adapt/sense out how much you can take, otherwise turn into regular item.
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  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by chonar View Post
    thats because it's the only expansion with corrupted geaaarrrrrrr
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  4. #104
    Quote Originally Posted by niztheundead87 View Post
    https://www.wowhead.com/news=295802/...on-stat-ranges

    The purification is not unlimited it takes time
    You won't get it fast it will take grinding
    Where did you get this specific information? Its not in that link...and its not on the blue post.
    The blue post is the most recent information btw.

    From the blue post, lets read this together

    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    if you get that trinket you’ve been hoping for, but it’s Corrupted with a beneficial effect you don’t like, or wearing it would push you above a Corruption threshold you’re comfortable with, just purify the item and carry on.
    "If it has a beneficial effect you DONT LIKE...just purify and carry on..."

    Implying...we lose the beneficial effect when purified.
    Plz someone tell me my english is not THAT bad.

  5. #105
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoowpunk View Post
    Where did you get this specific information? Its not in that link...and its not on the blue post.
    The blue post is the most recent information btw.

    From the blue post, lets read this together

    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    if you get that trinket you’ve been hoping for, but it’s Corrupted with a beneficial effect you don’t like, or wearing it would push you above a Corruption threshold you’re comfortable with, just purify the item and carry on.
    "If it has a beneficial effect you DONT LIKE...just purify and carry on..."

    Implying...we lose the beneficial effect when purified.
    Plz someone tell me my english is not THAT bad.
    It doesn't imply you can purify everything whenever you you want because the purification costs a new currency hence why it takes time

    It doesn't imply you loose the benefit at all LOL

    Learn to read seriously

    The purification removes ONLY the bad stuff

    I did it in the ptr

  6. #106
    Quote Originally Posted by niztheundead87 View Post
    It doesn't imply you can purify everything whenever you you want because the purification costs a new currency hence why it takes time

    It doesn't imply you loose the benefit at all LOL

    Learn to read seriously

    The purification removes ONLY the bad stuff

    I did it in the ptr
    You seem to be the only person (at this moment) with that information.
    And stop telling me to learn to read. I AM reading.
    I checked WoWhead
    I checked the blue post
    I checked youtube

    I only havent checked PTR itself.

  7. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoowpunk View Post
    You seem to be the only person (at this moment) with that information.
    And stop telling me to learn to read. I AM reading.
    I checked WoWhead
    I checked the blue post
    I checked youtube

    I only havent checked PTR itself.
    New 8.3 Essences reduce Corruption by 10.
    In addition to that, we found some global strings associated with cleansing Corrupted items, which is in line with our theory that you will be able to use a currency to get rid of their side effects in Visions of N'Zoth:

    >you cant cleanse unlimited times it costs currency
    >the items have 3 tiers of corruption
    >again stop parroting imbeciles like asmongold
    >the legendary cloak which you can upgrade helps with the corruption in the long run
    small secret the corrupted items have been tested on the ptr longer than they announced , the ptr is ahead of the news , because people test stuff to polish outs the bugs and changes

    so no you cant cleanse it all the time , its a long run investment
    it will suck at launch but it will get better after some time when you can handle the corruption
    you just keep repeating whatever rageporn others repeat from youtubers and streamers

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by niztheundead87 View Post
    New 8.3 Essences reduce Corruption by 10.
    In addition to that, we found some global strings associated with cleansing Corrupted items, which is in line with our theory that you will be able to use a currency to get rid of their side effects in Visions of N'Zoth:

    >you cant cleanse unlimited times it costs currency
    >the items have 3 tiers of corruption
    >again stop parroting imbeciles like asmongold
    >the legendary cloak which you can upgrade helps with the corruption in the long run
    small secret the corrupted items have been tested on the ptr longer than they announced , the ptr is ahead of the news , because people test stuff to polish outs the bugs and changes

    so no you cant cleanse it all the time , its a long run investment
    it will suck at launch but it will get better after some time when you can handle the corruption
    you just keep repeating whatever rageporn others repeat from youtubers and streamers
    Did you read what you just posted? That's a THEORY they had a long time ago.
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  9. #109
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoowpunk View Post
    Did you read what you just posted? That's a wowhead THEORY they had a long time ago.
    by the time you read stuff on wowhead , its already changed in the ptr
    hence the need for testing , they started by having rings that had both bonuses and disdvantages
    then they moved to more items and then the corrupted ones.

    you are literally whining for something that is not even finalized

  10. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by niztheundead87 View Post
    by the time you read stuff on wowhead , its already changed in the ptr
    hence the need for testing , they started by having rings that had both bonuses and disdvantages
    then they moved to more items and then the corrupted ones.

    you are literally whining for something that is not even finalized
    Sure, ok, i understand, but the most recent information we have is the blue post!!!!
    And by reading the blue post...its implied and implicit that you lose the beneficial effects.

    By the wording of it.

    "If it has a beneficial effect you DONT LIKE...just purify and carry on...without any restrictions"

    Thats the most current information we have. No theories allowed!

  11. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadoowpunk View Post
    Sure, ok, i understand, but the most recent information we have is the blue post!!!!
    And by reading the blue post...its implied and implicit that you lose the beneficial effects.

    By the wording of it.

    "If it has a beneficial effect you DONT LIKE...just purify and carry on...without any restrictions"

    Thats the most current information we have. No theories allowed!
    the information YOU have not we

    again dont whine for something that is not finalized ,or you can go in the ptr and contribute to testing instead of crying

  12. #112
    I like it and I'm sure more explanation will come behind it.
    Also if they put rng on top of rng so much it actually becomes impossible to farm something so thats the end of that discussion, it would be similar to trying to farm lottery tickets for the winner.

  13. #113
    This means there will be a much bigger disparity between people who raid and those who do not as unless you raid, you will be always 15 ilevels behind, with 1 weekly chest item helping you out per week, in case its an item that you actually need with a corrupted affix that you actually need with a socket and maybe a tertiary stat.

  14. #114
    Well I guess the fanboys to yet another RNG system are out in force today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by otaXephon View Post
    Check this Blue post. Even though the bonus each piece of gear rolls is random, if you don't particularly care for the bonus your gear rolls (ie, it rolls a Mastery boost and your class stacks Haste) you can just bring it to the Heart Forge and you can cleanse it at no cost. (Or, more importantly imo, have the ability to trade that piece of gear to somebody whose class does stack Mastery.) The control comes from you being able to choose how much Corrupted gear you want to wear. Since most players will likely only ever want to wear two, maybe three pieces of Corrupted gear at any time, it gives you flexibility of which slots you use Corrupted gear on and in general returns the game back to a system where the best, most powerful gear will simply drop from the hardest content.
    There's zero control here... Purifying them removes the positive affix as well as the negative... That's like saying you could negate the RNG on Titanforging by removing the Titanforging proc, it's absurd.

    Being able to "control how many you wear" absolutely does not solve the issue if RNG in acquisition of these better item procs, which is the issue with Titanforging, and still exists in this system.
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  16. #116
    So they created a problem (too high corruption) and then solved problem they created (just purify it) and are aplaused...

    Why they need to spend manhours to create a problem and then solving it?

    And people actually thinks it is good. Boy are they dumb...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schattenlied View Post
    I don't see how this is "RNG you can control", the affixes are still random, are they not? Unless we can choose the affix this is no more in control than Titanforging.. Corruption is then added on top of that and we still don't know how or indeed if they can actually be cleansed
    Because you have the option to remove the corruption, but by removing the corruption, you lose the benthic added effect, so at that point its just a regular item at a set item level. However by keeping the Corruption your subject to debuffs as well as getting the added benthic effect already.

    Its not a matter of what effect you get, its a matter of based on the amount of corruption you have, can you handle an extreme amount. This makes gearing choices completely different now because you have to choose how much corruption you can handle with out putting stress on your healers or yourself for that matter.
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  18. #118
    Okay, please be honest. What is more interesting to implement as a theme of corruption ?

    1)Tentacles. Purple tentacles. That have very intricate mechanics based on ideas like ''dodging them'' (presumably blood elves male paladins would fail at them. Over and over and over and over)

    2)A Faustian bargain

  19. #119
    Quote Originally Posted by Isiolia View Post
    The main issue with the corruption are not the effect by itself because it's always cool to have a bonus with a risk. My main issue (and everyone's issue) with this system is the big RNG factor. I hope we'll be able to corrupt our item like we'll be able to cleanse them.
    Don't think so, althrough i think that nearly everything will be corrupted, the real min/maxing is to have a low roll on the tier of it. So on one end you still have some kind of titanforging in the game, but on the other hand it's not by far a min/max situation. You can maybe do more damage, but it's a dimetrical effect, and sometimes it's better not to have too much corruption. This is even more important for people on progress: progress raids have more than enough to think about, and at the beginning you probably don't want any corruption to think about it too. So you can't have simply LUCK like with Titanforging, getting multiple of it and clear everything, or funnel the titanforged gear to your tank/dps/healer or whatever, instead you need to THINK. Yes, there are some low rolls on corruption that might bring something, but all in all, corruption will don't have nearly as much of an impact than titanforging does.

    So yes, it's an ABSOLUTE GOOD CHANGE. Perfect: by far not, but actually a GOOD system and FAR better as titanforging: HECK YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The best on this gear is: People need to start to think again: is the corruption worth the hassle?

  20. #120
    I think that a lot of people simply don't understand how it works, sees just the stupid bellular-video about it and find it crappy. It's better than most people think: is there RNG: Yes, but at a COST. And sometimes the cost is higher than the use, so you simply cleanse the item and go on.

    It's by far better than titanforging. Titanforging you always have a better item, here this isn't the case. You can't simply stack all beneficial effects to an insane amount, because then you are simply dead.

    Here you need to think about the gear, and probably that's the biggest issue here. And the best thing here is: if you don't want the system: that's TOTALLY OK, just cleanse all your items, and you are off. You couldn't escape titanforging, but corruption you actually can.

    I think it's a good idea, by far NOT perfect, but BETTER than the titanforging-crap!

    That said, i think they should remove the increase amound of base stat by x% from the corrupted gear: make the bonuses more like benthic-gear but stronger. That's a way to make this thing work. Just remove the base stat increase.
    Last edited by Velerios; 2019-10-24 at 09:40 PM.

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