Why are Americans up in arms over China?

[shadowmouse]

I disagree, HK protesters asked for help and therefore they're going to get it.

Have fun being played for a pawn then. I think we have nothing productive to discuss, so have a good day.

[Katie N]

Tell me more about how Baltics exploit others
Or is my avatar enough to make you assume I am one of those responsible for your... issues...?

Personal freedom should be a goal. Unless you really, really want to be that cog pressed down by some pseudo communist regime. Humans are not robots.

You said the west. What country was it that occupied us? France. Where are they located? The west. Who came here to wage war against us? The west and their allies.

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FWIW She is pretty much alone in this sentiment.

No, I'm not. You think people here think western powers were right in occupying us, waging war against us? While we think present time relations are good it doesn't mean we think what happened in the past was right.

Try to come here and say what the French did was right. That they didn't do anything bad. We hunted those people who were supporting western powers down.

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Well, yes, I involved the West. Baltics are not there, unfortunetaly, but it is something we mostly aspire to and have been trying to get to ever since regaining independence.
Her/his/it's point, imho (do note that it is my opinion), is nothing more than the good old "its their culture" excuse we have seen oh so many times.

You want to impose your own cultural values on us. We don't want your culture.

[Xarkan]

Probably the arresting re-education concentration camps and organ harvesting. Plus and their history with Tibet Taiwan Hong Kong

The organ havesting sound more like over the top propaganda like the US likes to do

Like that old story about Iraqi soldiers throwing early born children out on the floor in Kuwait that was completely bogus

I mean it could be true, i have little faith in China, but it sounds like propaganda

Also..

If they had ample supplies of organs why do none in the top have a heart?

[NoiseTank13]

Why does anyone give a shit about what Germany is doing to Poland, god just leave politics out of my video games.

[Miracle Mira]

Because *drumroll* West usually DOES know better, as evidenced by the highest level of living in the world and personal freedoms and possibilities. Which, guess what, partly applies to South Korea too.

I moved to Vietnam because my home country is a fucking shithole. Germany, Sweden, Italy and France also fucking everything up in EU. I live
with more comfort in Vietnam than I ever could back home and I will never have to deal with the cold weather that existed back home.

[Themius]

The organ havesting sound more like over the top propaganda like the US likes to do

Like that old story about Iraqi soldiers throwing early born children out on the floor in Kuwait that was completely bogus

I mean it could be true, i have little faith in China, but it sounds like propaganda

Also..

If they had ample supplies of organs why do none in the top have a heart?

Except the story was investigated with sources which you can look up. The issue also seems to be in public they are doing more donations than they officially should have organs for.

[Freighter]

Tell me more about how Baltics exploit others
Or is my avatar enough to make you assume I am one of those responsible for your... issues...?

You talked about the west. Not your country specifically, you've got yourself to blame here if you wanted it to be specifically about your country.

Personal freedom should be a goal. Unless you really, really want to be that cog pressed down by some pseudo communist regime. Humans are not robots.

No, it shouldn't.

We're staunchly anti-communist in South Korea but we are collectivist. Collectivism =/= Communism.

If you are a part of a society, you do not get to act in ways that hurts others in society just because you think you as an individual should be free to do what you like. Society is more important than your personal freedoms.

[Easo]

If you are a part of a society, you do not get to act in ways that hurts others in society just because you think you as an individual should be free to do what you like. Society is more important than your personal freedoms.

Well, duh, humans are social creatures. But society is made by and of humans, its not a separate thing. And people tend to lash out if said society starts to bear down on them. Your own history - autocratic military goverment, unsurprisingly, was not popular. But I can bet they used the same slogans about how you should live in harmony and not make trouble.
So I will ask you - do you prefer being a cog in the machine or an actual individual with your own head on shoulders? The second does not exclude participiating in society.

[Tic Tacs]

So many delusional people here...

China is not communist... Granted, communist party has their hand almost in every major business in China so calling China socialist is also kind of deceptive since the government pretty much controls everything yet they technically dont own anything nor control everything, on the paper many of the US and European companies have businesses their and own significant shares in their businesses. So, in the bigger picture of things China is a state capitalism where the state pretty much owns everything which is completely opposite to what we have in the US, large corporations control/influence/own government which is usually called crony capitalism.

[Bryntrollian]

Why are you Americans up in arms over China's dispute with their own kin when they don't give a crap about America and certainly wouldn't boycott Blizzard games for you either?

Americans are always up in arms about something that's none of their business.

[Muajin76]

The guy that killed his pregnant gf in Taiwan was released recently. He's a free man. I sure hope that HK people find and punish him with rusty sporks. If they hail him as a hero, that would be fd up.

[mvaliz]

Why does anyone give a shit about what Germany is doing to Poland, god just leave politics out of my video games.

Annoying Political European issues!!! What's more horrible is how it's effecting Baseball!!! I don't want to Politics effecting our favorite pastime! I just want to enjoy the game! >_<

https://imaginesports.com/news/baseb...ng-world-war-2

• Many minor league teams disbanded because so many young men were drafted.

• In all, 500 Major League players and more than 2,000 minor league players left to join the military, according to the American Veterans Center.

Good Christ! Those damn Outrage Warriors even got the PRESIDENT involved! >_<

• President Franklin Roosevelt – in his Green Light Letter – had given his endorsement for baseball to continue during the war. He wrote: “I honestly feel that it would be best for the country to keep baseball going. There will be fewer people unemployed and everybody will work longer hours and harder than ever before. And that means that they ought to have a chance for recreation and for taking their minds off their work even more than before.”

Rumors are also going around that due to the politics effecting Baseball, they may try to create A League of Their Own! >.>

• Chicago Cubs owner Philip K. Wrigley tasked an assistant to the team’s general manager, Ken Sells, to find a solution to the minor leagues dissbaning due to the draft.

• That solution was creation of the All-American Girls Professional Ball League .

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Well, duh, humans are social creatures. But society is made by and of humans, its not a separate thing. And people tend to lash out if they believe said society starts to bear down on them

Fixed that for you for accuracy.

It's not always some big bad gubbmint - it's also insane people THINKING there's some nonexistent plight in there. Just ask Nazi Germany what they thought of the Jews, or Rural America of the Mexicans. Or worse, some of these forum peeps being upset because user posters accused them of being biggots! The horror! >_<

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Americans are always up in arms about something that's none of their business.

[IMG]https://www.foreignbrief.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/hong-kong-protests.jpg[IMG]

Their internet/information flow must really suck if they think asking Dumbass Dump for help is a good idea! >_<

[ifrah]

So many delusional people here...

China is not communist... Granted, communist party has their hand almost in every major business in China so calling China socialist is also kind of deceptive since the government pretty much controls everything yet they technically dont own anything nor control everything, on the paper many of the US and European companies have businesses their and own significant shares in their businesses. So, in the bigger picture of things China is a state capitalism where the state pretty much owns everything which is completely opposite to what we have in the US, large corporations control/influence/own government which is usually called crony capitalism.

Totalitarian state would be the most accurate description.

[shadowmouse]

Totalitarian state would be the most accurate description.

Not really, @Tic Tacs did a decent job of condensing a lot of issues into a short summary. Totalitarian is a description that ignores the fact that China's population is huge and governing such a large population is about as orderly as herding cats.

[Zython]

Probably the arresting re-education concentration camps and organ harvesting. Plus and their history with Tibet Taiwan Hong Kong

In other words, America believes that only they're allowed to do that stuff.

[Underverse]

In other words, America believes that only they're allowed to do that stuff.

I don't see any camps around here.

A piece of history is not the same thing as contemporary moral failure.

[shadowmouse]

I don't see any camps around here.

Let me help you then.

[Themius]

In other words, America believes that only they're allowed to do that stuff.

Most Americans are not happy with our concentration camps, hence the major issue.

We at least aren't organ harvesting.

[Spectral]

It's actually kind of amazing that anyone's dim enough to compare detention centers for people that have illegally entered a country with detention centers for citizens with "incorrect" beliefs. At some point, the modern zeitgeist has got to max out on just plain stupid sentiments, but we're apparently not there yet.

[ifrah]

Not really, @Tic Tacs did a decent job of condensing a lot of issues into a short summary. Totalitarian is a description that ignores the fact that China's population is huge and governing such a large population is about as orderly as herding cats.

Ah the good old arguments.. "large population," "china is different" etc. Surely there's different definition for totalitarianism in China (applicable to foreign states only would be the prerequisite obviously), but could you care to explain how does the size of the population suddenly transfer quite totalitarian way of running things into merely "just herding cats?"