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    The Banshee Queen's Destination

    I have a feeling that after her latest cinematics exit, she will be going to Teldrassil and ressurect all the dead Nightelves there as a new "allied race" and making her the new leader since Calia will be taking over the Forsaken vacant leadership.

    In contrast, Tyrande will be the new leader of an allied race equivalent to her.
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    So if Sylvanas, who no longer is a part of the Horde, raises a bunch of new undead night elves, how would they become an allied race?

    They'd be aligned with Sylvanas, who is now against the Horde.

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    They would be san'layn, undead vampiric elves, which we saw in Northrend. Allied race version could be a rebel splinter group who join the Horde alongside the forsaken. Not a bad idea, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    So if Sylvanas, who no longer is a part of the Horde, raises a bunch of new undead night elves, how would they become an allied race?

    They'd be aligned with Sylvanas, who is now against the Horde.
    What they said. She's blighted her own capital, attempted to raise forsaken without free will, murdered her own people in Arathi and the Horde council meeting, sent the Horde to die to help Azshara release N'zoth, and everything else, culminating in straight up abandoning the faction and her people.

    She's not Horde anymore, if she ever was.
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    Having the authority to do a thing doesn't make it just, moral, or even correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powerogue View Post
    What they said. She's blighted her own capital, attempted to raise forsaken without free will, murdered her own people in Arathi and the Horde council meeting, sent the Horde to die to help Azshara release N'zoth, and everything else, culminating in straight up abandoning the faction and her people.

    She's not Horde anymore, if she ever was.
    She's entirely her own league.I bet she will be fetching all the dead heroes such as Kael'thas, Uther, Tirion, Arthas, and even Lady Vashj, King Rastakhan, Suarfang dad & son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vertigo12 View Post
    She's entirely her own league.I bet she will be fetching all the dead heroes such as Kael'thas, Uther, Tirion, Arthas, and even Lady Vashj, King Rastakhan, Suarfang dad & son.
    What in the Nine Hells That Will Now Be Playable Zones has she done that makes you think she will use this as an opportunity to be a good person?
    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    Having the authority to do a thing doesn't make it just, moral, or even correct.

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    Sylvanas just f**k up the balance of life and death, all in her sad attempt and trying to stop herself plunging into eternal shadows and suffering.

    That line of 'freeing us all' is just her trying to rationalize her f**king up the balance. And now we have to come along and set it right again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Sylvanas just f**k up the balance of life and death, all in her sad attempt and trying to stop herself plunging into eternal shadows and suffering.

    That line of 'freeing us all' is just her trying to rationalize her f**king up the balance. And now we have to come along and set it right again.
    It's because Odyn is watching over Shadowlands with his one eye. What happen in Shadowlands is just a continuation of Helya and Sylvanas' bargain. I'm not sure if Azshara trusts Sylvanas so she can lift up the curse of being Naga since it was a bargain between N'Zoth and Azshara having similar effects of being undead.

    I made a post way back in time that Nyalotha could have a back entrance from Shadowlands as it is refered to the land of sleep=death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vertigo12 View Post
    I have a feeling that after her latest cinematics exit, she will be going to Teldrassil and ressurect all the dead Nightelves there as a new "allied race" and making her the new leader since Calia will be taking over the Forsaken vacant leadership.

    In contrast, Tyrande will be the new leader of an allied race equivalent to her.
    Sylvanas isn't with the Horde anymore. They already have lore for the Undead Night Elves and Calia in 8.3. Sylvanas isn't needed for any more Allied Races. In fact, in Shadowlands no new Allied Races have been announced at all. Just customization options - which the Dark Rangers could easily be.

    Quote Originally Posted by vertigo12 View Post
    She's entirely her own league.I bet she will be fetching all the dead heroes such as Kael'thas, Uther, Tirion, Arthas, and even Lady Vashj, King Rastakhan, Suarfang dad & son.
    No. We already know that we'll be encountering some of these people separately in each zone as part of the Covenant content. They have nothing to do with Sylvanas directly. In fact, we're helping the Covenants against whatever Sylvanas is doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destinas View Post
    Sylvanas isn't with the Horde anymore. They already have lore for the Undead Night Elves and Calia in 8.3. Sylvanas isn't needed for any more Allied Races. In fact, in Shadowlands no new Allied Races have been announced at all. Just customization options - which the Dark Rangers could easily be.



    No. We already know that we'll be encountering some of these people separately in each zone as part of the Covenant content. They have nothing to do with Sylvanas directly. In fact, we're helping the Covenants against whatever Sylvanas is doing.
    Sylvanas just tear down the veil of what the World of Azeroth really is. She now has paved the way to allow mortals to cross easily between life and death. For sure denizens of Shadowlands will be recruited at the later patch of 9.0 and will be given priveledge to once again cross the world of the living.

    9.0 seems to have Satyrs, San'layns and the Maw seems to be Twisting Nether.

    For sure Bwomsamdi's zone and lair will be introduced at future patch and the continuation of GorakTul and his domain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vertigo12 View Post
    For sure Bwomsamdi's zone and lair will be introduced at future patch and the continuation of GorakTul and his domain.
    Bwomsamdi's zone/lair seems to be a dungeon, The Other Side.

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    Her destination needs to be the long nap, worm food, outta here.............

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    Quote Originally Posted by vertigo12 View Post
    Sylvanas just tear down the veil of what the World of Azeroth really is. She now has paved the way to allow mortals to cross easily between life and death. For sure denizens of Shadowlands will be recruited at the later patch of 9.0 and will be given priveledge to once again cross the world of the living.

    9.0 seems to have Satyrs, San'layns and the Maw seems to be Twisting Nether.

    For sure Bwomsamdi's zone and lair will be introduced at future patch and the continuation of GorakTul and his domain.
    Those aren't Satyrs, they're the Night Fae. Those aren't San'layn, they're the Venthyr. The Maw is the center of the Shadowlands - the Twisting Nether and the Shadowlands have already been stated as two separated places in concrete lore. Gorak Tul's "domain" is a section of the Emerald Nightmare - this was stated a year ago at Blizzcon. The Emerald Dream and the Shadowlands are related, but they are two separate areas. This is already known lore.

    And, as stated above me, The Other Side is a max level dungeon where we encounter Bwonsamdi.

    Nearly all of this is on the front page.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destinas View Post
    Those aren't Satyrs, they're the Night Fae. Those aren't San'layn, they're the Venthyr. The Maw is the center of the Shadowlands - the Twisting Nether and the Shadowlands have already been stated as two separated places in concrete lore. Gorak Tul's "domain" is a section of the Emerald Nightmare - this was stated a year ago at Blizzcon. The Emerald Dream and the Shadowlands are related, but they are two separate areas. This is already known lore.

    And, as stated above me, The Other Side is a max level dungeon where we encounter Bwonsamdi.

    Nearly all of this is on the front page.
    Thros is not part of Emerald Dream nor an extension of the Nightmare or Rift of Aln. Remember that Drust are death related beings and have connection with souls from the other side which is Shadowlands as you can see it doesn't have a map indicator that it was the Emerald Nightmare version of that area.

    I mean as a zone but not a dungeon similar to Helheim. I bet Helheim and the ferrying boat will be reintroduced in Shadowlands expac.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vertigo12 View Post
    Thros is not part of Emerald Dream nor an extension of the Nightmare or Rift of Aln. Remember that Drust are death related beings and have connection with souls from the other side which is Shadowlands as you can see it doesn't have a map indicator that it was the Emerald Nightmare version of that area.

    I mean as a zone but not a dungeon similar to Helheim. I bet Helheim and the ferrying boat will be reintroduced in Shadowlands expac.
    Yes, Thros is part of the Emerald Nightmare. This was already stated a year ago in an interview by the story developers.



    ~9:44 in the video.

    As the war went on, the desperate Drust called onto dark powers. Unbeknownst to them, they had reached the Emerald Nightmare. Their fallen warriors would find refuge in Thros, an offshoot of the Nightmare which they named differently as they were not aware of what the Nightmare was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destinas View Post
    Yes, Thros is part of the Emerald Nightmare. This was already stated a year ago in an interview by the story developers.



    ~9:44 in the video.
    According to the Night Fae Zone Drust occupy the area too so there might connection between the two. The reason Thros could be associated with Thros is because Emerald Nightmare manifest on all of Azeroth much like Emerald dream has Dreamgrove and dreamways.

    You can definitely see the difference between Thros and a fully corrupted and manifested Emerald Nightmate zone.

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