The faction war goin forward?

[Arrashi]

We will compete for anduins friendship stars now.

[tromage2]

How the fuck is Horde vs. Alliance what makes Warcraft

We had faction war in Warcraft 1-2-3 in Vanilla we had conflicts around the world.
We had a faction war going on in the background in WotlK, in Cata we had a faction war.
In MoP we had a focus on the faction war and in BfA.

We only had no faction war going on in TBC and in Legion otherwise we Always had the faction war going on somewhere in the world.
So it is obvious that red vs blue is always and will always be part of Warcraft when out of those 25 years we had the conflict going on 95% of the time.

[nonameelf]

We had faction war in Warcraft 1-2-3 in Vanilla we had conflicts around the world.
We had a faction war going on in the background in WotlK, in Cata we had a faction war.
In MoP we had a focus on the faction war and in BfA.

We only had no faction war going on in TBC and in Legion otherwise we Always had the faction war going on somewhere in the world.
So it is obvious that red vs blue is always and will always be part of Warcraft when out of those 25 years we had the conflict going on 95% of the time.

We had only 2 expansions where faction war was a focus. And the story sucked balls in both of them. Other expansions it was at most a side thing while the factions worked together.

[Mehrunes]

Right, if the factions are what make Warcraft what it is then why did they make both factions suck so much in BfA?

Alliance players don't like being under the Imperium of Man with High King Mary Sue at the helm.
Horde players don't like being repeatedly smashed in the face with the villain bat and then being under the Imperium of Man with High King Mary Sue at the helm.

Faction war stories are fucking atrocious. It was bad in MoP and it managed to be even worse in BfA.

How the fuck is Horde vs. Alliance what makes Warcraft what it is when Blizzard's shitty ass writers can't write a faction conflict that isn't pants on head retarded?

Maybe BfA was some weird attempt at reverse psychology? Like "Damn, this thing that makes Warcraft what it is sucks donkey balls right now. I better remain subbed for the next expansion in hopes it gets better." type of thing.

[nonameelf]

Maybe BfA was some weird attempt at reverse psychology? Like "Damn, this thing that makes Warcraft what it is sucks donkey balls right now. I better remain subbed for the next expansion in hopes it gets better." type of thing.

Oh, I unsubbed during BfA. The thing that has me hopeful for Shadowlands is that factions haven't been mentioned at all in regards to story.

[Athredas]

Nothing will happen in this expansion but the way Ion phrased it in the Preach interview, seems like the peace won't last for long.

[Selinde]

Nothing will happen in this expansion but the way Ion phrased it in the Preach interview, seems like the peace won't last for long.

Saurfang died for this. F

[Nathasil]

We had faction war in Warcraft 1-2-3 in Vanilla we had conflicts around the world.
We had a faction war going on in the background in WotlK, in Cata we had a faction war.
In MoP we had a focus on the faction war and in BfA.

We only had no faction war going on in TBC and in Legion otherwise we Always had the faction war going on somewhere in the world.
So it is obvious that red vs blue is always and will always be part of Warcraft when out of those 25 years we had the conflict going on 95% of the time.

Excuse me? But WC3 did NOT have a faction conflict. At all. In NONE of the (very few in total) maps where Humans and Orcs were actually fighting each other they were under the Command of one of these "factions".

1.x did NOT have a faction conflict. In fact, Varian had gone missing while on his way to meet Thrall to negotiate an actual peace.

2.x did NOT have a faction conflict at all.

3.x had traces of it to build up Garrosh as the new Warchief, but that was not an important part of this expansion at all.

4.x had major faction conflict.

5.x had major faction conflict that was then turned into a Rebel-Alliance vs Garrosh.

6.x had only Ashran as any trace of faction conflict, which made NO sense and was not mentioned outside of the zone at all.

7.x had only Stormheim as a trace of faction conflict, however Sylvanas was betraying the Horde there and Genn was ignoring his King's orders, so it hardly was an official conflict. The rest of the expansion was holding hands. Arguably more than EVER before in WoW.

8.x had a strange, twisted, non-sensical version of faction conflict, that somehow managed to paint everybody as the victim while introducing such grand motives like player-commited genocide and child-burning to the franchise. This "version" of the faction conflict somehow managed to leave every party disgusted and unsatisfied, no matter what their oppinion on factions in Warcraft could be.

9.x takes place in a land that predates even the titans. We are FORCED to join factions that are older than any of the planets our races originated from. They won't give any sort of fuck about the color of your undies - as they should. The fact that they are forcing a faction separation and warmode into this setting with absolutely zero lore justification is not good for the game. Conflict between those ancient SL factions would have actually made sense and be an opportunity for completely new PvP concepts in WoW. Chance missed.

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OT: The fact that they seem to be completely unwilling to change anything about the factions will only enforce this change later upon them without their control. Alliance numbers are falling into nothingness. There is no "choice" here depending on the kind of content you want to play in the game. Alliance players who do not want to join the child-killers will eventually only have the option to leave the game. Which a lot of them already did. At some point Blizzard will have to do "something" about it...and it is really pitiful that they refuse to do so in a planned, active manner right now and instad just want the shit to boil up until they have to go into emergency mode.

[tromage2]

Excuse me? But WC3 did NOT have a faction conflict. At all. In NONE of the (very few in total) maps where Humans and Orcs were .

Did you forget when the Orcs had their landing in Kalimdor that they had war with the Night Elves? no faction war you say?
When you start in WC3 when the clans gather the humans hunt the Orcs so in no way they are in peace.
Let alone that all of the Rexxar campaign is about the war between Orgrimmar and Theramore.

I stopped right there since all others make just as mutch sense as this one.

[Mehrunes]

Saurfang died for this. F

Saurfang died for human sycophancy and the Horde's subservience to the Alliance, so he got what he deserved.

[Super Dickmann]

It's the current year +4 and people are still claiming that Wrath, which had faction fighting in every zone except the ones where the factions literally don't exist, including the opening of Howling Fjord, so literally the first thing you do, as well as having two raids with faction-specific fights, had no faction focus.

[Mehrunes]

It's the current year +4 and people are still claiming that Wrath, which had faction fighting in every zone except the ones where the factions literally don't exist, including the opening of Howling Fjord, so literally the first thing you do, as well as having two raids with faction-specific fights, had no faction focus.

Alliance in WotLK: *outright declares war upon the Horde*
Some players: "Faction conflict? What's that? Never heard of such a thing."