What is exactly the reward for leading a good life in Azeroth ?

[Ophenia]

If the anima hints at something, I'd dare say.
Spirits very low on anima go make some new scourge freaks.
Good spirits low on anima would fuel nature things?
Evil spirits that have somewhat anima and can be redeemed, vampire torture chambers it is.
Good spirits to Bastion.
Incredibly bad guys, Maw.


Although I'm not really sure I got this anima thing right.

That's the idea, it's explained in the Shadowlands main page

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/shadowlands

Bastion for "Those who have lived a life of service [...] to assume the highest duty of all - carrying souls to the Shadowlands"

Living beings have wished to become something greater than themselves since time immemorial. Souls deemed noble enough can prove themselves in Bastion, land of pristine spires and crystalline skies, where those who surpass their trials earn the honor of ascension to a higher calling beside the Archon, first among the winged kyrians.

The kyrians are eternal beings who draw only the most accomplished, principled, and pure into their ranks. But, as souls plunge into the Maw and upheaval rocks the Shadowlands, scores of aspiring kyrians find that they are unable to continue their journey to ascension. With the number of kyrians dwindling, their charge to ferry souls to eternity is in jeopardy. Will the Archon’s devoted stand together, or will this test of faith sunder their shining kingdom?

Ardenweald for "those closely connected to the wild" (where your anima will basically be used as fertilizer lmao

If the Emerald Dream mirrors the spring and summer of life, then the star-hued plane of Ardenweald reflects life in its twilight.

Those who pass on with a deep connection to nature are tended here by the mystic night fae, who retrieve anima from mortal souls and infuse it into slumbering spirits, rejuvenating their lives with the remnants of the old.

Ardenweald has suffered more keenly from soul-drought than any other realm in the Shadowlands. For the first time in endless ages, the night fae's Winter Queen must choose which of the land’s formerly lush groves—and which souls—will be fed the last precious drops of anima… and which will fade away forever.

Maldraxxus, "those who master the powers of death turn legions of ambitious souls into relentless undead armies"

In the skull-and-bone laboratories of Maldraxxus, strength is rewarded, and weakness cast aside. Necromancers experiment on the souls of the ambitious and contentious, reforming only the greatest into undead soldiers who protect the Shadowlands. Those who are determined rise to positions of power. The less-promising become fuel for Maldraxxus’ malign weapons.

Maldraxxus’ brutal selection process has built a vast and capable militia… but its hierarchy is wobbling. The longtime leader of the realm has vanished. In his absence, five of the most eminent necrolords vie for the position, and the responsibility to advance the cause of death throughout the cosmos. Each bids on newly-arrived souls, filling their personal guard with capable soldiers and building armies larger than any yet known.

When they march, will it be towards one another… or the realms they swore to defend?

Revendreth "is home to the venthyr, the harvesters of sin. The wretched souls who arrive here blablabla"

The venthyr have a good thing going. They lord over Revendreth’s castles and ceaseless twilight while arrogant souls are delivered to their tables. The harvesters’ otherworldly punishments strip the pride from their thralls, sparing them an even worse fate: eternal torment in the Maw.

But souls thus drained can’t just leave Revendreth for a better place. They have years of penance to slog through while they reflect on the precarity of their afterlives. And, after eons of service, the venthyr are increasingly ruled by their decadence and pride. The very purpose of the plane may be flawed… and those who were once accusers have become gluttonous and corrupt.

Revendreth must always have a master, and rumor suggests that Denathrius, foremost among the venthyr, may no longer be fit for the role. Crowning a new Sire could return the plane to its former glory… or leave Revendreth mired in the same decadence and sin it is charged with cleansing

The Maw is "where the vilest souls in the cosmos are imprisoned forever".

For more details

https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/sh...ant/necrolords
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/sh...nant/night-fae
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/sh...venant/venthyr
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/sh...ovenant/kyrian

Maybe the Arbiter isn't a good entity?

The Arbiter is fully neutral and won't move an inch of the expac I guess. The Swiss of the Shadowlands.

[Raetary]

And in Bastion you do what? Rest on a cloud?

Become an aspirant and train to become an ascended.

There is no resting in the shadowlands, the Arbiter basically asigns you a job to do.

[Maxilian]

Become an aspirant and train to become an ascended.

There is no resting in the shadowlands, the Arbiter basically asigns you a job to do.

Well... to be fair, in Bastion is pointed out by the NPC that you have no rush there, you can always spend a lot of time doing absolutely nothing.

Note: But yeah, you're right, the Shadowlands do not look like a good place to go, regardless if you're good or evil, but at least you can get your soul destroyed, so in some way, eternal slumber is an option

[Arrashi]

Well... to be fair, in Bastion is pointed out by the NPC that you have no rush there, you can always spend a lot of time doing absolutely nothing.

Note: But yeah, you're right, the Shadowlands do not look like a good place to go, regardless if you're good or evil, but at least you can get your soul destroyed, so in some way, eternal slumber is an option

And thats the reason why you should always do pure evil playthrough, and rush for immortality elixir research.

[Maxilian]

And thats the reason why you should always do pure evil playthrough, and rush for immortality elixir research.

The problem with such thing as an elixir of immortality, is that decapitation will still put you in the Shadowlands, and with an infinite amount of time, you have an infinite amount of opportunities to get killed.

Note: This also makes me think, that even those in Bastion are bound to the Maw, eventually, as everything can be corrupted, including the Valkyrs (now we know those are Kirians)

[Arrashi]

The problem with such thing as an elixir of immortality, is that decapitation will still put you in the Shadowlands, and with an infinite amount of time, you have an infinite amount of opportunities to get killed.

Note: This also makes me think, that even those in Bastion are bound to the Maw, eventually, as everything can be corrupted, including the Valkyrs (now we know those are Kirians)

Only if its second grade elixir. Real stuff respawns you even if they throw you into the sun (and conveniently in closest safe location).

[Maxilian]

Only if its second grade elixir. Real stuff respawns you even if they throw you into the sun (and conveniently in closest safe location).

This is the Warcraft universe, there's still a lot of ways to destroy a soul directly, i mean... *Look at the general direction of demons*

[Arrashi]

This is the Warcraft universe, there's still a lot of ways to destroy a soul directly, i mean... *Look at the general direction of demons*

And thats why only low level casuals deal with souls. Proffesionals just bend time/space continuum and manipulate laws of universe directly.

[Maxilian]

And thats why only low level casuals deal with souls. Proffesionals just bend time/space continuum and manipulate laws of universe directly.

A) That did not save certain Queen of certain elves.

B) The Bronze Dragonflight will want to have a talk with you

Note: You know i can keep going

[Arrashi]

A) That did not save certain Queen of certain elves.

B) The Bronze Dragonflight will want to have a talk with you

Note: You know i can keep going

What queen of elves?

And who cares about bronze dragonflight anyway, they bring orcs from alternate universes and get corrupted all the time.

[scelero]

If you're looking for glory or a reward for doing something, then you're evil.

Doing good requires nothing in return. Anything else is a perversion of the truth and a chain to imprison you.

An example of such perversion. Creating a contract between two people, claiming you are friends and using spells like 'that's what friends do' to get something out of them.. When in reality, a good person does it regardless of social norms, etc.

You're wanting to play a game, in which you get rewarded.

I don't play the game, and I see people for what they really are.

If you want to know what happens when you do good in a world fill with evil...... You'll get used again and again. Cause they want a reward, so they'll use you to get it. If you do something just cause you want good, you know you wont get anything in return, thus not using them.

[Arrashi]

If you're looking for glory or a reward for doing something, then you're evil.

Doing good requires nothing in return. Anything else is a perversion of the truth and a chain to imprison you.

Actually true altruism doesn't exist. If you are having any form of satisfaction of ideological background for you good deeds you are as selfish as guy who does them for cash.

[Gaidax]

They did tell us that those 4 (5) options are not all the afterlife there is.

Demons get back to Twisting Nether, then there Nilfheim and Skyhold as well for a specific group. I'm pretty sure Light might also have its own personal afterlife option, as well as Void.

[Gasparde]

They go to Double Shadowlands.

It's called Shadowyerlands, silly goose - and it's where we are going next expansion.

[Bosen]

You get to pick which vetsion of Hell you want to go to!

[Moonrage]

Afterlife in wow kinda sucks, seems like eternal rest isn't even an option (unless your soul gets destroyed).

[horbindr]

i have a funny feeling souls are fuel for the shadowlands, just like they were for the legion.

[Queen of Hamsters]

I guess once you're evaluated, you go into the Further, where you shall encounter an annoying old lady suffering from serious over acting and a handsome lad stopping mid-flight like a moron to speak to a reflection! :3

Serious though:

I just have to say that I cannot wait!
New lands, new possibilities, new stories to be told! The zones we've seen so far will surely not be the last, not considering the fact that they're probably aware by now that people expect new areas with big patches. <.<